What is It with the story..?? - Page 2

Originally posted by: hemaDaganKhian

i have this crazy question in my mind for really looong time(approx from the beginning of DKDM😆)all those puranas and refernces everyone pointing is also written by another human right?how can we say that whatever written in those books are completely true as no one know what really happened 😕yeah large community believes in those puranas but does that mean its all true 🤔sorry if i offended anyone😳

Suchi

I understand, appreciate and to some extent even share your POV on stories in DKDM. Yes in a way, they have a message, have meaningful symbolism. Yes "real stories" can never be ascertained as far as mythology is concerned. (Even history is mostly a record from others' POV and few evidences here & there...not factual account of how things must have happened).

But that said, even excessive creative liberties are hard to digest.

The way they are deliberately putting Mahadev in every scene of Ramayan...that way they can tomorrow show Mahadev even as part of Jataka tales, Aesop's Fables, Panchatantra and Arabian Nights (after all GOD is everywhere!). Or they can show Mahadev appearing in some avatar in contemporary settings too, giving lessons to a Mittal or Birla! (God is in past, present, future after all!)
They can show Mahadev appearing to warn likes of Ashoka, Chandragupta Maurya, Samudragupta, Maharana Pratap, Shivaji etc. also!

The thing is that either one should make it clear that they have taken Shiva as only a character and showing him in any way they like. Stop masquerading as a mytho.

Lord Krishna was there in a soap called Saarthi on SP. Fine enough. Take liberties and use any interesting devta as a metaphor there. But yes, don't claim to show Mahabharat and keep putting Krishna in whatever situation you like.

Raju Hirani didn't make a film on Gandhi as such. Just found him and his philosophy interesting, so used Gandhi as a modern day guide in Lage Raho Munnabhai. That's fine and one understands in such cases that creators are presenting the story in their own way.

When I watch DKDM, sure I find many dialogues and scenes inspirational and meaningful. I have also kept a small notebook where I note down lines and scenes from the show that inspire me and I wish to remember them for life.

Still, excessive "creative liberties" do irritate and one feels they are doing all this just to show Mohit Raina in every scene.

The way DKDM has been going, we didn't even need Ram! Lord Shiva could have killed Raavan or burnt down Lanka himself! Narayan could have kept sitting at his abode as a spectator and narrator!

What's the use of putting Mahadev in some avatar around Raavan and later Dashrath? But not having him do anything solid? As a viewer it is hard to make sense of what is happening! You wonder why Mahadev did not prevent anything or why was he waiting if he knew everything!

This also seems to undermine importance of other Tridevas. It seems like Mahadev "enables" them to act! Narayan was told by Mahadev to go down to earth and take avatar, Ram was given a class in warfare by Mahadev himself...blah blah! As if Narayan himself doesn't know what he has to do!

Currently when I look at DKDM objectively, I feel they just want to drag the show and put MR in every frame. They also seem to want more popularity by focusing on Ramayan but ignoring other stories related to Shiva, Parvati, Ganesha and Kartikeya. I'd love to see less known legends about them.

Sometimes when they even choose less known legends they do center them around MR and character can at best be flawed or misled but not evil.

Jalandhar track was something I did lap up. But such tracks do make one wonder why Mahadev never intervened in his life before! What was the need to kill him instead of guiding him? Such questions did come in my mind.

DKDM has often made me ponder and try to understand what God is. But at times it also makes me wonder why God forgives and personally intervenes in some people's lives, whereas as he just warns and then disappears to leave a person to his fate at other times! Then for such things you have the classic (but IMO a beaten to death and unconvincing) explanation that it's all destiny and fate!! (Merely saying it was fate seems like an easy answer to brush off anything).

It has not always managed to give a clear picture of God and His ways, rather given contradictory message and thrown up more questions at several instances.

^^^you put the things clearly it is DKDM so they are focusing only on Mahadev(in process others are sidelined)but the problem starts when they start to insert him in places which are believed to be some other gods

since debo mentioned about showing certian things "wrong"

DKDM is creating a mythology of its own. It's like an addition to existing stories!

In short, it is about showcasing MR in gorgeous avatars in every episode and Utkarsh Naithani embellishing all episodes with his philosophical dialogues - the one liners or speeches that sound great.

At times in the excuse of showing Shiva as a householder, they have shown scenes that look straight out of family dramas and films...Lord Shiva doesn't even seem like a god in those scenes!

Other tracks have been well debated and discussed here.

Lord Shiva and MR are muse for DKDM creatives and they toy around these in whatever way they like.

I don't have any issues from religion POV because I am not that religious. But I can understand people who may have problem from religious POV. I think it's good that Sikhs and Muslims don't allow movies or serials on their prophets/gurus. Better to read or hear from expert than have Gurus or Prophets or Devtas turned into interesting "characters" or some artist's "muse"!

Originally posted by: -ShrNi-

since debo mentioned about showing certian things "wrong"

DKDM has done that several times😆

its amusing the way they talk about taking inspiration from Puaranas and stuff when the truth it they have taken stories from pretty much ANYWHERE

just so that they can justify themselves-to suit thier needs

they talk about taking proof from sources when the truth is they have taken sources from ANYWHERE

like the AS story is a tiny unknown short story that isnt present in a Purana-infact Nahushas wife isnt even AS as per some books

the fisherman story is a predominantly south indian story-i have heard it was shown in ONS and a film

they say they follow the "Shiva Purana" but have also taken inspiration from just about anywhere!

they can cook up a really weird Ashok Sundari story-YET they cannot focus on stories of Kartikeya that ACTUALLY exist in South India

the truth is the show does a mish mash of stories to suit thier needs

ofcourse no denying that they do get certian Issues across nicely-i too have liked certian episodes

but there is no denying the fact that they have taken GOOD stories and ruined them!

I have a problem with THAT

taking good stories and spoiling them just to promote Mahadev

this specially with regards to Kartikeya and Parvati

Parvati as Durga was the ONLY one who killed Durgam-why make Mahadev play a part in killing him?

Kartikeya killed Tarkasur on his own-why have Mahadev help him?

They made Mahadev look like a Victim in the Vinayak story when the truth is that Mahadev killed Vinayak in a fit of anger!

Similarly Ramaayan is Ram Leela-Vishnu was born with Human restrictions,yet he over came them to defeat Raavan-THAT is the greatness of the story,why involve Mahadev?

^that is the problem i have with what i am doing-certian level of distortion is OK,even i didnt mind it..but why mess up a story,take credit from someone and give it to someone else when they arent even involved?

Had this been a fiction show it would have been ok-but this is a religious show

its about our Gods-our Aaradhyas...the instances they have taken and messed up are stories we love,they are Leelas,Leelas over which songs are written,tempels are made and beliefs are kept...

IT is much more than a story here-its about faith and beliefs too

It hurts...it isnt nice

I have loved Mythos since i was a child...teaches me the victory of good over evil,gives me hope,gives me happiness

seeing such a thing hurts-small distortions are acceptable

major ones are annoying

Mahadev is great-he(the orignal one) has got me through the worst phase of my life-i am devoted to him,follow his principles(which DKDM did effectively get through-again i dont deny that,a very good job done)

But i wont accept anything just cos i am a Shiva Bhakt-he lives in my heart,his essense is within me...

i dont feel the need to watch the distortion just beacuse i Love Shiva...he lives in my heart,he knows it too

thats enough for me😊

Strictly My POV😊