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Ela Singh

@elasingh

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Posted: 12 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: Gods_child

Dont take Vrinda devi wrong this is DKM version.In .Jallandhar story she wasn't aware of jallandhar lusting Parvati

Dear I am also talking abt Dkdm"s Vrinda.

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itstimetospeak

@itstimetospeak

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Posted: 12 years ago

#12

vrinda will meet her end now. but y will vshnu ji do this? thats a big question in my mind.
vrinda was one of the biggest devotee of vishnu and he'll fool his own bhakt?

i would want to surely see what the dkdm version of the show portrays.

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sashashyam

@sashashyam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#13

Dear Ela,

I had wanted to post a response to you on my latest Jalandhar thread, but before I could do so, that was closed for reasons I could not comprehend, but let us leave that. I wanted first of all to thank you for your kind comments on my post. Secondly, to put down here my comments about Vrinda that I had wanted to include there.

To my mind, Vrinda cannot be accused of thinking that it is ok to kidnap a woman in order to safeguard her future with her husband. In fact she specifically says that it is wrong, and unworthy of a great warrior like Jalandhar, and she will not even look at him as she says that.

She proposes the puja option in order to try to salvage the already very bad situation, by making it possible for Jalandhar to set Parvati free. She specifically states that as he would then be invulnerable, he could free her without any fear about the consequences. He would no longer need her in captivity to prevent her from resuming her Adi Shakti persona and killing him. He is not interested in her as a woman, so why then would he hold her captive any longer?

So it is not that she condones what he has done. She does not, and is frank enough and courageous enough, to make her views clear right at the beginning of their conversation. Her proposal is a practical suggestion to roll back, at least in part, the unbelievable folly he has committed, She cannot undo it, as she tells him. but she tries to rectify it to the extent possible. Plus of course she does not want her husband to be killed by Adi Shakti, but one cannot blame her for that, can one?

Vrinda has a clear-eyed perception of right and wrong, and the forthrightness to voice her ideas on the issues that confront her husband. If Shukracharya had had even a fraction of her moral clarity and her strength of mind, plus her grasp of what tough love should be, Jalandhar would have been saved from the blind alley into which he has boxed himself, and the tragedy that lies ahead.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: elasingh
From today's episode it is obvious that Vrinda is quite ok abt Parvati's kidnaping...She does protest a little but cools down when Jalandhar sweet talks her...

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Cherry

@chirpy_life19

Inactive

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Posted: 12 years ago

#14

A request to all!

Plz for god's sake dont confirm that this Vrinda-Vishnu story from some puranas happened really.

This tale is illogical and deviates from many facts and truths.

Thanx to Minaxiji,Srujaji and Member Hermione for giving esoteric meaning behind these stories.👏👏👏

And for everyone's knowledge these Puranas were said to be written by only one Sage Shri Veda Vyasa yet they have contradicting predictions.Possibility of adulteration cannot be ruled out.

@ Minaxiji plz post the esoteric meanings of this story given by yourself and other members(Srujaji and Member Hermione) here.They are lost in other posts.Plz put them here so everyone who come across the tale from the so called puran can read,understand and realize the true concept rather than being a prey of these misinterpretations!

Thank You😊

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viper833

@viper833

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Posted: 12 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: Viraaga

A request to all!

Plz for god's sake dont confirm that this Vrinda-Vishnu story from some puranas happened really.

This tale is illogical and deviates from many facts and truths.

Thanx to Minaxiji,Srujaji and Member Hermione for giving esoteric meaning behind these stories.👏👏👏

And for everyone's knowledge these Puranas were said to be written by only one Sage Shri Veda Vyasa yet they have contradicting predictions.Possibility of adulteration cannot be ruled out.

@ Minaxiji plz post the esoteric meanings of this story given by yourself and other members(Srujaji and Member Hermione) here.They are lost in other posts.Plz put them here so everyone who come across the tale from the so called puran can read,understand and realize the true concept rather than being a prey of these misinterpretations!
Thank You😊

That your opinion

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mnx12

@mnx12

Channel Moderator

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Posted: 12 years ago

#16

@viraaga, thanks 😊, those pots are really lost in some thread. Some are combined with other reference so can not be posted here. Whenever I'll come across something connected with this topic, will surely post here.

Shruja has posted about Tulasi in this thread only.

Agree, this Vrinda- Vishnu story is vey sensitive, it requries mature understanding.

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itstimetospeak

@itstimetospeak

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Posted: 12 years ago

#17

those comments by hermione were posted in the topic devaraj Indra.
we had a really awesome discussion there and lots of interesting stuff was discussed.
if i happen to find the link i will post it here.

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SRJKiShraddha

@SRJKiShraddha

Sparkler

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Posted: 12 years ago

#18

in present scenarion , i think vishnuji will come to vrinda during the war as jallu will be unbeatable due to vrinda's chasity and shiva's paravati will be still trapped in kalpna lok of jallu.

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Cherry

@chirpy_life19

Inactive

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Posted: 12 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: mnx12
@viraaga, thanks 😊, those pots are really lost in some thread. Some are combined with other reference so can not be posted here. Whenever I'll come across something connected with this topic, will surely post here.
Shruja has posted about Tulasi in this thread only.

Agree, this Vrinda- Vishnu story is vey sensitive, it requries mature understanding.

Thank You Minaxiji😊I've gone through Shrujaji's posts in this thread.

Yes,this story and also many other stories from our puranas need mature understanding😃

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mnx12

@mnx12

Channel Moderator

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Posted: 12 years ago

#20

@viraaga, wait till this evening, I'll try to find & post most of them here itself. 😊

Some posts about Vishnu- Vrinda from other threads.

Originally posted by: SRUJAconscience

Two cents from my said...

Basically fixed mind will be calm, peaceful and care-free. This is the sign of the mind, being well engaged in good company. If the mind is vagrant, it cannot be called well-merged...this applies to every being.

Vishnu Tattwa from Vishnu Sahasranam...

sarva-yoga-vinissritah:He who is free from all attachments

vrishaakritih: The form of dharma

avyangah: Without imperfections

anaghah: Sinless

Punarvasuh : He who lives repeatedly in different bodies

ateendriyo:Beyond the sense organs

vishvaatmaa:The soul of the universe

saadhur:He who lives by the righteous codes

vrishaahee: Controller of all actions

achyutah:He who undergoes no changes

vaikunthah: One who prevents men from straying on wrong paths

parameshthee:One who is readily available for experience within the heart

nandah: Free from all worldly pleasures

vijitaatmaa:One who has conquered the sense organs

akshobhyah: One who cannot be annoyed by anyone

God=Supreme=Beyond sensory actions=Pure Conscience

Can someone who is not body but the self i.e beyond sensory actions/pleassures involve in such activities.

ArishadVargas(the negative characteristics of which prevent man from attaining moksha or salvation) : kama, krodha, lobha, moha, mada and matsarya.

Purushardhas(Goals of Human Existence) : Dharma,Artha,Kama,Moksha.

Then why Kama is placed in ArishadVargas and Purushardhas???Because kama is only for progeny not for sensual gratification.

Chastity : Is chasity only for body?Chastity is first for mind!

Chastity also means being pure in our thoughts and deeds.

Correct meaning of the term PatiVrata : Many misinterpret this term.

Pati means man who is loyal to his wife.Who endures or bears with his life partner.

Vrata means devotion,vow...

So now PatiVrata means being devoted to the person who is loyal to you/who endures or bears with you.Here dedication is not solely for a wife it applies for the husband also.

Devotion means not blindly supporting to what he does.

If the husband is not loyal to his wife then how can he enjoy the fruits of her chastity?!

One way devotion is meaningless!

Eg.Ramayan.

Ram and Sita were devoted to each other.

Mandodari was devoted to Ravan but Ravan?

If the life of a man solely depends on the chastity of his wife then how was Ravan killed?

Mandodari and Sulochana wives of Ravan and Indrajit respectively were very much devoted to their husbands.Ram and Lakshman killed the duo in the battle field and none of the ladies were deprived of their chastity beforehand.Even Hiranyakashipu's wife Leelavathi was a chaste lady and everone is aware of the outcome of his ego!The fate solely depends on the person's actions but not the chastity of his/her life partner.

Union :

It need not necessarily be physical union...in terms of god and devotee it is never,never a physical union.It is the union of the Jeevatma with Paramatma(self realization),it is beyond all types physical relationships.

If still one wishes to go as it is with the story mentioned in the Puranas...

It is said "When Jalandhar realized that lord Shiva had begun to dominate the battle he created beautiful 'Apsaras' and 'Gandharvas' by his illusionary powers to divert the attention of lord Shiva and his ganas. He was successful in his attempt. Lord Shiva and his ganas became enchanted by the heavenly beauty of the apsaras. They stopped fighting and started watching their dance and music."

So here Lord Shiva got diverted with the presence of apsara beauty😲

Everyone please recollect the Shiva-Kama encounter before Parvathi's wedding.

Can MahaDev who can burn Lust(Kama) fall for it???

One interesting fact : Shiva sitting on the tiger's skin indicates that he has conquered lust.

Spiritual meaning of Jalandhar-Vrinda Story...

Jalandhar(means Net trap or water trap) refers to the eddy or whirlpool of Sansaar which must be handled and fulfilled with devotion i.e Vrinda but still one must not get trapped in this eddy.A person cannot come out of this eddy by his/her effort but needs the help of Vishnu(or supreme).

For this one should worship the supreme while fulfilling sansaarik duties.Then Vishnu comes and the union(not physical union) with him is guarenteed.Automatically the person's bonds with the sansaar get destroyed by Siva(Kal) and the eddy or commitments are finished,such a being though leaves physical body becomes immortal/sacred (Tulasi) and is always in union with Vishnu.The Tulsi Vivaah symolizes 'Kalayan of the jeeva',here Kalyaan means not worldly marriage but something like 'LokaKalyan'😊

Originally posted by: mnx12

I consider Deva & asuras very lucky to have Brihaspati & Shukracharya as their Guru, who guids them so much, even if they they don't accept their advice. In that case only they are responsible for their deeds, not their Guru.

After J was killed his soul merges in Shivji, so his aansh after finishing his Karmas returns back to his source. Vrinda due to her devotion for Vishnuji, gets an independant identity of being a herb & Vishnuji's puja is incompelete without her. Both J & Vrinda were great souls, who got their due acceptance.

J's birth was not natural, his life was different from others. Others take many birth to merge in the Super Consciousness, for him it happened in the same birth. So judging him has to be in a different manner. Even Vrinda must have been a Vishnuji's devotee in her past birth. Her accumulated Karmas made her immortal in form of Tulasi. This is a story of two special souls.

Edited by mnx12 - 12 years ago

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