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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: harianjana

what janaki did said was completely right, Tri devi are three parts of Adishakthi's enormouse power. actually according to some puran it was said that In the start of universe, Adishakthi was the prime one after whom Shiva was born. After shiva, Vishnu, and Brahma was born and Adishakthi had the trishul and third eye at first which she gave to shiva. Shiva getting what Adishakthi wishes did fire her with help of third eye and divided that ash into 3 parts and thos three parts were later reborn as Lakshmi,devi and saraswathi this is what one purana says. there are many concepts like this.

But coming to Radha rani,she was not Adishakthhi. She was considered as the incarcination of lakshmi in Krishna tathv. But here arises another doubt as it was said that Rukminidevi was also the incarcination of lakshmi Devi, but actually it had a explanation that, Every person has his life partner in two forms... One is the Premasaathi(Love) and other is the Karmasaathi(Responsiblity) . Generally these both are referred to his wife only, but in the Krishnavatar Narayan gave a good difference for these two , in Krishnavatar Radha was the premsaathi of Krishna , where as Rukmini was the Karmasaathi. So it was often rumoured that The lakshmi's Premsaathi roop incarcinated as Radha while the karma sathi roop incarcinated as Rukmini. If we go on saying there are many theories like this... But what ever was theory there was no where said that radha was Adishakthi's incarcinatuion, she was always consdiered as lakshmi's incarcination only

Yes, we have a vast number of puranas about the supreme God and Goddess, some saying Vishnu is greater while others saying Shiva is greater. But I believe in my heart that both are equal and simply different forms of the ultimate God/Goddess. Likewise, even Lakshmi, Parvathi, and Saraswati are equal as all three are the different forms (each with different characteristics) of Adi Shakti.
As for Radharani, I also believe she was Lakshmi Avatar, because there was never a rule that Lakshmi had to appear only once in Vishnu's avatar. In fact, I believe that all 8 of Krishna's wives were forms of Goddess Lakshmi only, and that Radhaji was Adi Lakshmi, or the complete form of Lakshmi. Lakshmi came under different forms in Dwapar Yug for different reasons, because so many people wanted her as their daughter and she could not marry anyone but Krishna, so Krishna could not be eka patnivrat in his avatar like Shri Ram, but in fact Lord Krishna is called a yogi despite having so many wives. So many people misunderstand Krishna because of this, instead of realizing that all his wives were simply different forms of Goddess Lakshmi.
I said that Radhaji was a form of Adi Shakti because when Lakshmi was a form of Adi Shakti, and she was a form of Lakshmi, wouldn't that just mean she was a form of Adi Shakti too?😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: camella


Thanks Janaki!! This is the concept that the CVs keep confusing..Aadi Shakti is a complete concept from Devi mahatmyam and Devi puraanam like you said..where Aadi shakti or Aadi parashakti is considered to be the creator of the universe..thanks for the elaboration 😊

No problem, and yes Devi Mahatyam/Devi Puranam is the scripture that has the complete story of Adi Shakti and her different forms. Not just the CVs, many common people also don't know that all three Devi's are the different forms of Adi Shakti.
In Ramayana too, there is a verse when Vibhishan tries to convince Ravan to return Sita, and he mentions how she is a form of Adi Shakti so she can burn Lanka to ashes if she so wishes. Adi Shakti was not limited to only Devi Parvathi. She was Devi Lakshmi and Saraswati also.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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As far as i belive that the woman has power to give birth and in many purans this brahmand was considered as hiranya garbh which is of aadishakti. Aadishakti is the supreme deity as she is the cause and consequence of anything. Whenever there is need of vanishing evil in society every devta wants aadishakti. whether it is ravan, the kaurvas any asuras even for tarkasur vadh tridev wants aadishakti's support. She has numerous forms sarasvati, lakshmi or gauri. Durga was generated from devi parvati as she refers to shakti among three tridevis thats why she is representative form of aadishakti. She was the only who can take prachand roop even in the form of kaal. Devi lakshami refers to mahamaya by whose maya this whole world is going on. She refers to the soft side of aadishakti Where as saraswati refers to the art and literature by which this whole world can survive. These three are the Brain, body and soul of aadishakti.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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As Shivji's wife Sati she had appeared in 10 Mahavidyas form before going to Daksh's yagya, in the show they showed it as her Vikaral roop at the yagya venue. As Parvati, Duragama appeared from her. So for the ferocious forms to get rid of evil Aadi Shakti is always refered to Shiva, Shivji's wife.
She is Para-Shakti in her Nirakar roop, who takes various forms to achieve different goals.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Radha Rani si not adi shakti...
she is MAYA... Lord VIshnu's Maya...
During the "agnipariksha" of Sita, Lord Vishnu (Ram) ordered his "Maya" or magical powers n common language to burn herself in order to protect Sita. Maya followed the orders of her Master and burnt herself.
When Sita came to know abt this she asked Ram to marry Maya as she has burnt herself to follow Ram's orders.
Ram said he has vowed to be faithful to 1 wife only and cannot marry Maya.

Sita got sad hearing this. To cheer her up Ram said that when he will come as Krishna, Maya will be Radha... "Although i will marry u (sita), Maya will always stay in my heart as Radha."
"Radha wud be no different than Krishna... Whenever our devotees will take my name, they will have to take Radha's name too in order to impress me and have my blessing.."

Thats y we say "Radhe Radhe" or "Radhe-krishna" whenever we take Lord Krishna's name...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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So many question n so many ans i got in this post, Thnx to TM for making this topic
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: aashaka

Radha Rani si not adi shakti...

she is MAYA... Lord VIshnu's Maya...
During the "agnipariksha" of Sita, Lord Vishnu (Ram) ordered his "Maya" or magical powers n common language to burn herself in order to protect Sita. Maya followed the orders of her Master and burnt herself.
When Sita came to know abt this she asked Ram to marry Maya as she has burnt herself to follow Ram's orders.
Ram said he has vowed to be faithful to 1 wife only and cannot marry Maya.

Sita got sad hearing this. To cheer her up Ram said that when he will come as Krishna, Maya will be Radha... "Although i will marry u (sita), Maya will always stay in my heart as Radha."
"Radha wud be no different than Krishna... Whenever our devotees will take my name, they will have to take Radha's name too in order to impress me and have my blessing.."

Thats y we say "Radhe Radhe" or "Radhe-krishna" whenever we take Lord Krishna's name...

I never heard of this version. It's interesting though, could you tell me which source it's from please?
I heard another version that the chhaya sita who had taken the real Sita's place in Lanka was later reborn as Devi Padmavathi in Lord Vishnu's incarnation as Venkateshwara Swami, because she had asked Lord Ram to marry her after the agni pariksha scene, but he refused since he was eka patnivrat, though he promised her that he'll marry her in another avatar. She was then born as the daughter of akashraj and named Padmavathi.
There's yet another version that says Padmavathi was Vedavati's incarnation, though I don't believe that one because when Vedavati burned herself, she had told Ravan that she would be reborn and be the reason of his death. Obviously Vedavati had to be Sita in that case.
There are so many theories about Radha. Some say she was Lakshmi, some say she was a fourth form of Adi Shakti after Parvathi, Lakshmi, and Saraswati. Some say she was the female form of Vishnu while Krishna was the male form. I guess we won't know for sure, but it's interesting learning about all these different theories.😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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yup... thats the version i was talking...
after radha Maya became padmavati so that krishna cud marry her...
i read it in some book... sorry cant remember the name...
i read it around 5 yrs back... so forgot the name of the book

the Vedavati version was i think only a dramatic version for the show Ramayana (Gurmeet Chaudhary 1)
i dont think anything like that is mentioned anywhere...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: aashaka

yup... thats the version i was talking...

after radha Maya became padmavati so that krishna cud marry her...
i read it in some book... sorry cant remember the name...
i read it around 5 yrs back... so forgot the name of the book

the Vedavati version was i think only a dramatic version for the show Ramayana (Gurmeet Chaudhary 1)
i dont think anything like that is mentioned anywhere...

No, the Vedavati story shown in Gurmeet's Ramayan was from Valmiki Ramayan itself if I am correct. I will try to find the verses if I can find them online. If not, it's mentioned in Adhyatma Ramayana also, that Devi Vedavati's curse was one of the many curses Ravan got leading to his destruction.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Here's one verse where Seeta as Vedavati's incarnation is mentioned, but I'm still looking for the verse that actually has her story:
??????? ???? ?? ???? ????????????? ??????? |
??????? ???????? ?????? ???? ??? ????????? || ?-??-?

4. dvaa dasha samaaH = two, ten [twelve,] years; ikshvaakuuNaam niveshane uSitvaa = Ikshvaku's, in residence, on residing; maanuSaan bhogaan bhunjaanaa = humanly, prosperities, relishing; sarva kaama samR^iddhinii = all, cherishes, in sumptuosity - I was.

"On residing in the residence of Ikshvaku-s in Ayodhya for twelve years, I was in sumptuosity of all cherishes while relishing all humanly prosperities. [3-47-4]

Mythically Seetha is Goddess Lakshmi and an accorder of prosperity. Here she is saying that she had to enjoy 'humanly indulgences...' because her husband incarnated himself as a man, and since she had to enjoy along with him in her in-law's place, she enjoyed those luxuries. Or, if this is read asa+ maanuSa bhogaan 'superhuman delights...' [of course, not 'inhuman delights...'] she enjoyed heavenly comforts as she was enjoying as Lakshmi in vaikunTha 'Milky Ocean of Vishnu.' And then, she is indirectly telling Ravana that she has come now as Seetha, after immolating herself as Vedavati, in an earlier incarnation, only to end Ravana.

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