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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: shruti.nil

Question please...

Shukrasharya is supposed to be Mahrishi Birgus son right?..
so how are they of such diffrent beliefs..Brigu with the Devas and Shukracharya supporting the Danavs?
is there a story behind this?



Shukracharya became the guru of Asuras because of his hatred towards Lord Vishnu. The hatred arose because Vishnu once killed Shukracharya's mother when she had given shelter to the asuras.

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Posted: 13 years ago
But when was Bhrigu ever allied to the Devas? I thought that Bhrigu was pretty much neutral, while Shukracharya was supportive of the Asuras due to the above reason.

Also, the above story about Shukracharya being tricked - was that the last of his association w/ the demons? After all, he was the guru of Bali b4 Bali surrendered to Vamana, and later, he was the guru of Indrajit (although not of Ravana) The incident w/ Kacha & Devyani probably took place b4 the time of Indrajit, since after the passing of Rama & his brothers, the Druhyus overthrew either Bharat's or Shatrughan's dynasty. In other words, despite being let down first by Bali, and then by Vrishaparva's asuras, he never seemed to abandon the asuras, probably due to his grandfather being Hiranyaksha.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Brigu doesnt seem very neutral in the show-always supporting Daksh who is pro-Devta...
it seems a bit weird because when i read the story-on the sagar world website,it didnt seem like that...
thanks for the answer!
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: shruti.nil

Brigu doesnt seem very neutral in the show-always supporting Daksh who is pro-Devta...

it seems a bit weird because when i read the story-on the sagar world website,it didnt seem like that...
thanks for the answer!

sage brigu in the show even said that it is good to bind with sukracharya than with siva.
@vrish ---if i am not wrong after rebirth in kacha devayani story, sukracharya lost power of giving birth to dead as he himself has taken rebirth or he has told mantram to devayani. pl clarify th u - satya
Edited by satyavarshini - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
satyavarshini

No, Shukracharya didn't lose that power - it's just that the asuras lost their advantage. Previously, only Shukracharya knew it, but nobody sympathetic to the devas did, which is why Kacha was sent. After Kacha was restored to life and restored Shukracharya to life, both of them had that capability, but Devyani cursed him that he'd not be able to relieve anybody who was killed despite knowing this secret. Kacha recognized this curse, but said that he'd still be able to teach it to others, who could use it. But I haven't heard of whether Kacha actually taught that to anyone else so that the devasura wars could be tipped more neutrally.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: bharat9



@red: but arent there 2 coils around Shiva's neck?

The snake around Shivji's neck in the show has 2 & 1/2 coils, can be taken as 3 coils.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Is Vasuki the snake around Shiva's neck? I thought he was the 1000 headed king of snakes, who Vishnu used in the Matsya avatar as a rope to tie the boat w/ the saptarshis to his horn so that he could take them to safety, and hand them the vedas. Vishnu also used him during the samudra-manthan as a rope to churn the ocean using the mountain (I'm forgetting its name). Interestingly enough, Vishnu used Vasuki instead of his own Sesha-nag for this purpose.

So it would seem to me that the snake Mahadev had/has around his neck is someone other than Vasuki.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: mnx12

That stuti by Dadhichi is "Rudrastaka"

Thank you so much mnx!! 👍🏼 You're a star!! ⭐️ ⭐️
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Is Vasuki the snake around Shiva's neck? I thought he was the 1000 headed king of snakes, who Vishnu used in the Matsya avatar as a rope to tie the boat w/ the saptarshis to his horn so that he could take them to safety, and hand them the vedas. Vishnu also used him during the samudra-manthan as a rope to churn the ocean using the mountain (I'm forgetting its name). Interestingly enough, Vishnu used Vasuki instead of his own Sesha-nag for this purpose.

So it would seem to me that the snake Mahadev had/has around his neck is someone other than Vasuki.



Vasuki is described as the snake used to churn the ocean and is also said to be the snake coiled around Lord Shiva's neck.

Vasuki also became the string the of the bow used by Shiva to destroy Tripura.

And Sesha did play a role in the Samudra Manthan: he uprooted Mandara, the mountain used as the churning rod.
Edited by Kal El - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: mnx12

Story of Nandi

http://www.godandguru.com/shiv-puran/chapter-35.html

There was a sage named Shilada. He once saw that his ancestors were being tortured in hell. When he tried to find out why this was so, he was told that htis was because Shilada did not yet have a son.

To obtain a son, Shilada began to pray to Shiva. He prayed for a thousand years. At the end of the tapasya, Shiva appeared and offered to grant Shilada a boon. Shilada wanted the boon that he might have a virtuous son.

A few days later, when Shilada was ploughing the land, he discovered a baby boy on the blade of theplough. The boy was as bright as the sun and the fire. Shilada was frightened and started to run away. But the boy called after him, Father, stop. Father, stop, A voice was then heard from the sky.

This voice told Shilada that this was the son he had wanted. Since this son would make everyone happy, he was to be named Nandi.

Shilada brought nandi home to his mermitage. He taught his son the Vedas, the arts of the medicine and fighting, dancing and singing and several other sacred texts. All this Nandi mastered within fifteen days.

When nandi was seven years old, two powerful sages arrived in Shilada's hermitage. Their names were Mitra and Varuna. Shilada worshipped them and presented Nandi before them. The sages blessed Nandi with the words, Be learned, be faithful to your teacher.

Shilada said, Sages, why didn't you bless my son with a long life?

We couldn't, replied the sages. Your son is going to die when he is eight years old. That is written in his stars.

Shilada was crestfallen to hear this, but Nandi consoled his father. He promised his father that he would do something so tha this fate would have to be rewritten. He would pray to Shiva. And when he met Shiva, he would ask of him a boon.

Meeting Shiva, exclaimed Shilada. I had to meditate for a thousand years before I could get to meet Shiva. How do you expect to meet Shiva in the one year tha tis left to you?'

Wait and see, father, replied Nandi. Shiva is difficult to meet if you only perform tapasya or thirst for knowledge. The secret lies in faith and devotion. I will manage.

There is a river named Bhuvana. Nandi entered this river and began underwater prayers to Shiva . His efforts pleased Shiva so much that Shiva appeared before him.

What boon do you want? asked Shiva.

Please grant me the boon that I may be devote to you, replied Nandi. I don't want to be born become old and die.

Shiva granted Nandi the boon tha the and his father would get to live in Shiva's residence in Shivaloka. Shiva's companions are known as ?ganas. Shiva made Nandi ganapati, the chief of the ganas and retained him as a perpetu ? companion. Shiva also gave Nandi a wonderful garland to wear.

As soon as he put this garland on, Nandi became resplendent with three eyes and ten hands.




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