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Posted: 13 years ago
guys I have a question
I heard somewhere that once Daksh performed a yagya and then... he insulted shiv in some way...Sati couldnot bear his insult and jumped into the fire
Well now the question is we are being shown the love story of sati and shiv so then will they show us about sati's jumping into the fire and then later the story b/w shiv and parvati🤔
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Aasthahere

guys I have a question
I heard somewhere that once Daksh performed a yagya and then... he insulted shiv in some way...Sati couldnot bear his insult and jumped into the fire
Well now the question is we are being shown the love story of sati and shiv so then will they show us about sati's jumping into the fire and then later the story b/w shiv and parvati🤔

Aashu!!!!Chottiii!!!!!!..how are you...so long..
ok ans to you're q...i guess that will take time,since Sati hasnt married shiv yet,and lot of events occur between the self immolation,and Satis rebirth as Parvati..so i guess we have to wait and watch!
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Posted: 13 years ago
Is this true that Shiva only had the snake around His neck after Sati's self-immolation (as mentioned by one of the other forum member in couple of threads - thought this thread would be the best place to discuss about & to get responses)? If so then why are showing it now? Is this due to lack of research?


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Posted: 13 years ago
One person questioned about Shiv Linga existing before Sati and Shivas marrigae..
for general information here is the answer!
The most popular form of worshipping Lord Shiva in Hinduism is in the Linga form. It is known as Shivling or Shivalinga. The Linga symbol is an attempt to give form to the formless, referred as Supreme Being or Brahman in Hindu religion. When a Linga is installed on a Yoni, it represents the union of Shiva and Shakti – the beginning of creation.
Puranas and Epics in Hinduism narrate in detail why Shiva is worshipped in the form of linga. It is said that the Supreme Being appeared before Lord Brahma and Vishnu in the form of a 'pillar of fire', which had no end and beginning. It is one among the many symbols of Brahman. There are numerous other incidents in the Puranas including the famous Deodar forest incident in which the wives of saints are attracted to Shiva and he castrates himself and leaves the Linga on earth as his symbol.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: bharat9

Is this true that Shiva only had the snake around His neck after Sati's self-immolation (as mentioned by one of the other forum member in couple of threads - thought this thread would be the best place to discuss about & to get responses)? If so then why are showing it now? Is this due to lack of research?


this is the information i found,and it doesnt state anything about Sati

The Symbolism of Snakes in Saivism

Lord Siva is depicted in many images like the one above as wearing a garland of snakes around his neck. There is a deep symbolism hidden behind this.

Lord Siva is know as Pasupathinath, the lord of all creatures. Being a lord of the animals he has complete control on their behavior. Since a snake is one of the most feared and dangerous animals in the world, the garland of snakes around the neck firmly establishes this fact even the snakes fear Him and remain under his control.

The snake stands for all the evil and demonical nature in the world. By wearing the snake around his neck, Lord Siva gives us the assurance that no evil can touch us or destroy us once we surrender to him, seek his protection and worship him with deep devotion.

The snake also stands for the power of kundalini, which is described as a coiled serpent lying dormant in the muladhara chakra of all human beings and descends upwards when one starts ones spiritual journey and becomes increasingly divine oriented. The snake around the neck of Siva conveys the meaning that in him the kundalini not only has arisen fully but is also actively involved in the divine activity by keeping an eye on all the devotees who approach Siva with their individual problems.

The snake also stands for all passions and desires. By wearing the snakes around his neck, Lord Siva conveys the message to all his devotees that He has overcome all desires and is in full control of Prakriti, or maya and its various machinations.

http://allsaivism.tripod.com/snakes.html


http://www.hindu-blog.com/2008/02/about-snakes-worn-by-shiva-serpent.html

Pictures and idols of Lord Shiva depict him wearing snakes (cobra) prominently around his neck. Snake is known as 'Nag' or Naga and they hold a special place in Hindu religion. Snakes are worshipped in Hinduism. The snakes found on the body of Lord Shiva are considered to be his ornaments. The snake around Shiva's neck symbolically represents the ego which ones mastered can be worn as an ornament. Coiled serpents also signify that Shiva is the master of time and energy.

Images of snakes are often depicted as coiled around the Linga (Shivling). A five-headed snake forms a canopy over the Lingam. Snakes serve Shiva as his sacred thread, necklace, bracelets, bowstring and are occasionally found on his clothes.

There are numerous symbolism attached to the snakes on Shiva. In some case, the snake around his neck symbolize the endless cycle of life and death. The other snakes found on him including in the form of girdle, armlets symbolize the eternal revolution of ages and the successive dissolution and regeneration.

There are numerous stories regarding Shiva's association with serpents in the Puranas. Shiva is also worshipped as Nagesh at the Nageshwar Templenear Dwarka in Gujarat, which is also one among the 12 Jyotrilingas.

Snakes are said to bear rubies or diamonds (mani) on their heads, and the jeweled heads of cobras serve as lover's lamps for Shiva and Parvati.

The most famous association of Lord Shiva with snake is during the churning of the ocean (Samdura Manthanam). Shiva drinks the poison halahala that came out of snake Vasuki, who was used as the rope in the churning. The blue throated Shiva or Nilakantha is the result of swallowing the snake poison.

According to another legend, at the time of their marriage, Goddess Parvati asked Shiva what ornaments he had brought for her. Shiva then gathered all the poisonous things in the world and made ornaments from them. Thus snakes became different ornaments. This episode is found in the Skanda Purana. Shiva making ornaments from serpents is also mentioned in the Padma Purana and the Matsya Purana.


Edited by shruti.nil - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: bharat9

Is this true that Shiva only had the snake around His neck after Sati's self-immolation (as mentioned by one of the other forum member in couple of threads - thought this thread would be the best place to discuss about & to get responses)? If so then why are showing it now? Is this due to lack of research?


http://hindupad.com/hindu-deities/snake-around-shivas-neck-why-lord-shiva-wears-snakes/
The snake is one of the symbols or attribute of Shiva, is explained in many puranas. Lird Shiva lives in mountains. Carries nothing precious. Snakes also stores nothing, carries nothing & constructs nothing, lives in mountains. to symabaise the nature of simple living, Shiva wears snake around his nack. Generally snakes represents anger & poisonous nature. Wearing it around the neck also symbolisze how important it is to control anger & poisonous nature. Vasuki is the name of snake around the neck of Lord Shiva as per many books. Why the snake is curled 3 times around Shiva's neck? Three coils represents past, present & future time in cycle. Why is it worn like an ornament? It signifies that the creation proceeds in cycles & the Lord himself transcends time. Why does the snake look towards right side? Right side represents the best action of human in terms of knowledge & wisdom.
The main purpose of all the attributes or symbols in Hinduism is to protect the universe by providing natural balance.
Edited by mnx12 - 13 years ago
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SHIVA LINGAM
In his popular aspect, Shiva is a member of Triad along with Brahma, the creator and Vishnu, the protector. As a member of triad Shiva takes the role of destructor, so that Brahma can regenerate. In this visible aspect Lord appears with three eyes, matted hair, with the garland of snakes and skulls. He wears tiger and dear skin and holds drums, horns and trishul (Three headed spear) in his hand.

But in his original form, Shiva is the param braham ' the supreme creator and he himself is the triad. The supreme Shiva is Rudra (or hollow) and is formless. This supreme Shiva is represented by the Shiva Lingam and is pronounced by the universal word ? (Aum). The Shiva Lingam is full of mysteries and tales and myths, some of which are even baseless. Nevertheless, this is one of the most popular form in which the Lord is worshipped.

Shiva Lingam ' Meaning and the myths

The Sanskrit word 'Lingam' means symbol. Thus the literal meaning of Shiva Lingam is the symbol of Shiva. The Supreme Shiva doesn't have a form and every form is his form. The Shiva Lingam represents him, the Supreme Shiva who is formless. The way when we see a smoke, we infer the presence of fire, the moment we see Shiva Lingam we immediately visualize the existence of the Supreme Shiva.

It has been a common myth that Shiva Lingam represents male genital organs. This is not only misleading but also base less. Such misinterpretations are done in later Vedic period and popularized much later, when Indian literatures actually came into hands of foreign scholars. It was difficult to interpret the language and a word may have different meaning depending on the context. Some of the easy interpretation may be misleading. And such misinterpretation may actually be welcome, if you want to find the defects in somebody else's faith. This misunderstanding is can be one of the most glaring examples of such a situation. Misinterpretations of actual Sanskrit literature led to this false belief. Shiva Lingam is a differentiating mark; it is certainly not a sex mark.

The Lingam Purana states:

(There are 2 Sanskrit shlokas here which are not coming here, please see them in the link given above)
??????? ???????? ???????????????? ?
???-????-??????? ????-???????????????? ?

meaning:

the foremost Lingam which is devoid of colour, taste, hearing, touch etc is spoken of as Prakriti or nature.

The nature itself is a Lingam (or symbol) of Shiva. When we see nature, we infer the presence of its creator ' Shiva. Shiva Lingam is the mark of Shiva the creator, Shiva the sustainer and Shiva the destructor. It also dispels another myth in which Shiva is considered only as a destructor.

Another authentic reference comes from Skanda Purana where lingam is clearly indicated as the supreme Shiva from where the whole universe is created and where it finally submerge.

????? ????????????: ?????? ???? ???????
???: ???? ??????? ????????????????? ?
(?????? ?????)

The endless sky (that great void which contains the entire universe) is the Linga, the Earth is its base. At the end of time the entire universe and all the Gods finally emerge in the Linga itself.

Now this should clarify the settle the doubts once and forever.

Forms of Shiva Lingam

Shiva Lingam is worshiped in two common forms ' Chala (Moveable) Lingam and Achala (Non-Moveable or Fixed) Lingam.

Chala Lingam (Moveable Lingam)

The Chala Lingams may be kept in the shrine of one's own home for worship or prepared temporarily with materials like sand, clay, dough or rice for worship and dispensed with after the worship. Another form of the Chala Lingams can also be worn on the body as a pendent in the necklace etc. Chala Lingams are often made of quartz, mercury or metals.

Achala Lingam (Fixed Lingam)

Achala Lingams (or fixed Lingams) are installed in temples and are un-moveable once they are installed. There are rigid rules for achala Lingams which must be followed. Achala Lingams must be offered prayers at fixed times and without failed and greater sanctity is maintained. Usually Lingams are made of black stones.

The Appearance and significance of Shiva Lingam

A Shiva Lingam is generally made up of black or white stones, marbles or metals or Quartz. A Shiva Lingam has three distinct parts which are considered as portions of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. The Lower part represents Brahma, the middle Vishnu and the upper and the most prominent represents Shiva. Thus Shiva Lingam represents all the three powers in one- as the Param Braham or Supreme Shiva.

Another interpretation considers Shiva Lingam to be divided in two parts ' Shiva and Shakti. Thus Shiva Lingam are symbols to represent the aspects of the Supreme Shiva. From one view Shiva is Shiva and Shakti; from another view point Shiva is Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh (Shiva himself).

Shiva Lingams made up of quartz have special significance. Such Lingams have no colour of its own but it takes the colour of any object that comes in its contact. The ling as such represents the attribute-less and formless supreme Shiva.

There is mysterious and indescribable power in Shiva Lingam to induce the concentration of mind. It is like the crystal glazing, mind easily attains one- pointedness by looking at the Shiva Lingam. This is the reason why ancient scholars and sages advocated the worship of Shiva Lingam and its installations in temples.

Listen to the message of Shiva Lingam and it will say:

"I am one without a second".

Important Shiva Lingam across India

Shiva Lingam worship is one of the most popular forms of worship offered by Hindus. Every town, cities, villages, blocks will have at least on temple with Shiva Lingam. However, of all the Shiva Lingams, few carry special importance with them and have been referred in Vedas and Puranas. The important of them are:

  1. Jyotir Lingams: There are 12 Jyotir located in various parts of India. They are well documented in Puranas. They are:
Somenath (Somnath, Gujarat) Mallika-Arjun (Shrishailam, AP) Kashi-Vishwanath (Varanashi, UP)
Aumkareshwar (Aumkareshwar, MP) Mahakaleshwar (Ujjain, MP) Trayambakeshwar (Near Nashik, Maharashtra)
Kedarnath (Himalaya) Vaidyanath (Deogarh, Jharkhand) Rameshwar (Tamil Nadu)
Ghrineshwar Nageshwar Bhimshankar
  1. Panchbhut Lingams: The whole world consists of 5 basic elements ' air, water, fire, earth and sky. The Panchbhut Lingam of Shiva represents these five elements. These Lingams are:
1. Kalahastisvar 2. Jambukesvar 3.Arujachalesvar
4. Ekambaresvar 5. Natraja

Edited by mnx12 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
So the snake around Shiv's neck is called Vasuki? Also is this right Vasuki was used during Sagar-manthan?
Edited by bharat9 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: mnx12



The snake is one of the symbols or attribute of Shiva, is explained in many puranas. Lird Shiva lives in mountains. Carries nothing precious. Snakes also stores nothing, carries nothing & constructs nothing, lives in mountains. to symabaise the nature of simple living, Shiva wears snake around his nack. Generally snakescrepresents anger & poisnous nature. Wearing it around the neck also symbolisze how important it is to control anger & poisnous nature. Vasuki is the name of snake around the neck of Lord Shiva as per many books. Why the snake is curled 3 times around Shiva's neck? Three coils represents past, present & future time in cycle. Why is it worn like an ornament? It signifies that the creation proceeds in cycles & the Lord himself transcends time. Why does the snake look towards right side? Right side represents the best action of human in terms of knowledge & wisdom.
The main purpose of all the attributes or symbols in Hinduism is to protect the universe by providing natural balance.



thts good info!! thanks.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: bharat9

So the snake around Shiv's neck is called Vasuki? Also is this right Vasuki was used during Sagar-manthan?



Correct. Let me also add that Vasuki is younger brother of Shesh Naag (Adi Sesha), on whom Lord Vishnu resides.

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