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Posted: 13 years ago
Can somone help me with the bhajan/song sung by Dadhichi and others in today's eppy? Didn't understand a word but had goosebumps. Anyone?
Edited by MithiBani - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: mnx12


The snake is one of the symbols or attribute of Shiva, is explained in many puranas. Lird Shiva lives in mountains. Carries nothing precious. Snakes also stores nothing, carries nothing & constructs nothing, lives in mountains. to symabaise the nature of simple living, Shiva wears snake around his nack. Generally snakescrepresents anger & poisnous nature. Wearing it around the neck also symbolisze how important it is to control anger & poisnous nature. Vasuki is the name of snake around the neck of Lord Shiva as per many books. Why the snake is curled 3 times around Shiva's neck? Three coils represents past, present & future time in cycle. Why is it worn like an ornament? It signifies that the creation proceeds in cycles & the Lord himself transcends time. Why does the snake look towards right side? Right side represents the best action of human in terms of knowledge & wisdom.
The main purpose of all the attributes or symbols in Hinduism is to protect the universe by providing natural balance.



@red: but arent there 2 coils around Shiva's neck?
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Bharat-in the show there are two,but there are supposed to be three

Someone put forward a doubt about Additi being mother to Indra and how Additi doesnt acknowlege it
Aditi (Sanskrit) Aditi [from a not + diti bound from the verbal root da to bind] Unbounded, free; as a noun, infinite and shoreless expanse. In the Vedas, Aditi is devamatri (mother of the gods) as from and in her cosmic matrix all the heavenly bodies were born. As the celestial virgin and mother of every existing form and being, the synthesis of all things, she is highest akasa. Aditi is identified in the Rig-Veda with Vach (mystic speech) and also with the mulaprakriti of the Vedanta. As the womb of space, she is a feminized form of Brahma. The line in the Rig-Veda: "Daksha sprang from Aditi and Aditi from Daksha" has reference to "the eternal cyclic re-birth of the same divine Essence" (SD 2:247n). In one of its most mystic aspects Aditi is divine wisdom.
Additi is supposed to be the mother to both Indra and Daksha,and she takes rebirth and is born to Daksha as his daughter Additi.Hence the Two additis are not the same
just for info

shruti
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: MithiBani

Can somone help me with the bhajan/song sung by Dadhichi and others in today's eppy? Didn't understand a word but had goosebumps. Anyone?

That stuti by Dadhichi is "Rudrastaka"
1-Namaa miisha mishaana-nirvaana rupam
vibhum vyaapakam brahma-veda-svaroopam
nijam nirgunam nirvikalpam niriham
chidaakaasha maakaasha-vaasam bhaje ham

I bow to the Ruler of the Universe, whose very form is Liberation,
the omnipotent and all pervading Brahma, manifest as the Vedas.
I worship Shiva, shining in his own glory, without physical qualities,
Undifferentiated, desireless, all pervading sky of consciousness
and wearing the sky itself as His garment.

niraakaara monkaara-moolam turiiyam
giraa gnaana gotiita miisham giriisham
karaalam mahaa-kaala-kaalam krpaalam
gunaagaara samsara paaram nato ham

I bow to the supreme Lord who is the formless source of "OM"
The Self of All, transcending all conditions and states,
Beyond speech, understanding and sense perception,
Awe-full, but gracious, the ruler of Kailash,
Devourer of Death, the immortal abode of all virtues.

tushaa raadri-sankaasha-gauram gabhiram
manobhuta-koti prabha sri sariram
sphuran mauli-kallolini-charu-ganga
lasad-bhaala-balendu kanthe bhujangaa

I worship Shankara, whose form is white as the Himalyan snow,
Radiant with the beauty of countless Cupids,
Whose head sparkles with the Ganga
With crescent moon adorning his brow and snakes coiling his neck,

chalatkundalam bhru sunetram visalam
prasannaa-nanam nila-kantham dayaalam
mrgadhisa charmaambaram mundamaalam
priyam sankaram sarvanaatham bhajaami

The beloved Lord of All,
with shimmering pendants hanging from his ears,
Beautiful eyebrows and large eyes,
Full of Mercy with a cheerful countenance and a blue speck on his throat.

pracandam prakrstam pragalbham paresham
akhandam ajam bhaanukoti-prakaasam
trayah-shula-nirmulanam shula-paanim
bhaje ham bhavaani-patim bhaava-gamyam

I worship Shankara, Bhavani's husband,
The fierce, exalted, luminous supreme Lord.
Indivisible, unborn and radiant with the glory of a million suns;
Who, holding a trident, tears out the root of the three-fold suffering,
And who is reached only through Love.

kalaatitata-kalyaana-kalpanta-kaari
sadaa sajjanaa-nanda-daataa purarih
chidaananda-sandoha-mohaapahaari
prasida prasida prabho manmathaarih

You who are without parts, ever blessed,
The cause of universal destruction at the end of each round of creation,
A source of perpetual delight to the pure of heart,
Slayer of the demon, Tripura, consciousness and bliss personified,
Dispeller of delusion'
Have mercy on me, foe of Lust.

na yaavad umaanaatha-paadaaravindam
bhajantiha loke parevaa naraanam
na taavat-sukham shaanti-santaapa-naasham
praslda prabho sarva bhutaa-dhivaasam

Oh Lord of Uma, so long as you are not worshipped
There is no happiness, peace or freedom from suffering
in this world or the next.
You who dwell in the hearts of all living beings,
and in whom all beings have their existence,
Have mercy on me, Lord.

na janaami yogam japam naiva pujam
nato ham sadaa sarvadaa sambhu tubhyam
jaraa janma-duhkhaugha taatapya maanam
prabho paahi apan-namaamisha shambho

I don't know yoga, prayer or rituals,
But everywhere and at every moment, I bow to you, Shambhu!
Protect me my Lord, miserable and afflicted as I am
with the sufferings of birth, old-age and death.

rudrastakam idam proktam viprena haratosaye
ye pathanti nara bhaktya tesam sambhuh prasidati

This eightfold hymn of praise was sung by the Brahman to please Shankara.
Shambhu will be pleased with whomever heartfully recites it.

Edited by mnx12 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: .Reshama.

mnx12 ur a gyani 👍🏼

I am not a gyani, am just a die hard believer of Lord Shiva 😊
Edited by mnx12 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Let me add that this bhajan is written by Goswami Tulsidas.

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: shruti.nil

@Bharat-in the show there are two,but there are supposed to be three


Someone put forward a doubt about Additi being mother to Indra and how Additi doesnt acknowlege it
Aditi (Sanskrit) Aditi [from a not + diti bound from the verbal root da to bind] Unbounded, free; as a noun, infinite and shoreless expanse. In the Vedas, Aditi is devamatri (mother of the gods) as from and in her cosmic matrix all the heavenly bodies were born. As the celestial virgin and mother of every existing form and being, the synthesis of all things, she is highest akasa. Aditi is identified in the Rig-Veda with Vach (mystic speech) and also with the mulaprakriti of the Vedanta. As the womb of space, she is a feminized form of Brahma. The line in the Rig-Veda: "Daksha sprang from Aditi and Aditi from Daksha" has reference to "the eternal cyclic re-birth of the same divine Essence" (SD 2:247n). In one of its most mystic aspects Aditi is divine wisdom.
Additi is supposed to be the mother to both Indra and Daksha,and she takes rebirth and is born to Daksha as his daughter Additi.Hence the Two additis are not the same
just for info

shruti


Shruti

From what I read (don't recall where), Daksha was born from Brahma's toenail - he wasn't vaginally born, and didn't have a mother. In fact, none of Brahma's children were born to Saraswati or any other woman.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: mnx12

I am not a gyani, am just a die hard believer of Lord Shiva 😊

Whoever said you can't be both? 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
Question please...
Shukrasharya is supposed to be Mahrishi Birgus son right?..
so how are they of such diffrent beliefs..Brigu with the Devas and Shukracharya supporting the Danavs?
is there a story behind this?
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: shruti.nil

Question please...

Shukrasharya is supposed to be Mahrishi Birgus son right?..
so how are they of such diffrent beliefs..Brigu with the Devas and Shukracharya supporting the Danavs?
is there a story behind this?

Shukracharya:
Guru Shukracharya was the son of Bhrigu Rishi and Ushana, also known as Usha, the daughter of Hiranya Kashyap. Shukracharya was the preceptor of the Asuras, the demons. Shukracharya had been to Maharshi Aangrish for education but came back on seeing his favoritism towards his son Brihaspatii. He then went to study with Rishi Gautam.

Later, Shukracharya undertook an arduous penance and invoked the blessings of Shiva. He asked for a mantra which would ensure that the demons never lost. Shiva agreed to do so, but Shukracharya would have to perform a certain ritual for a thousand years and live only on smoke during this period. Shukracharya began this ritual in order to get mantra from Shiva.

Meanwhile the devtas (deities) learnt of Shukracharya's plans. They decided to destroy the demons while Shukracharya was away and before he acquired the divine mantra. As instructed by Shukracharya, the demons were residing at the hermitage of Sage Bhrigu, Shukracharya's father. The demons pleaded that they had given up their weapons and were leading a peaceful life and hence it was unfair for them to be attacked at this time. But the devtas carried on regardless. Since Bhrigu was away, the demons requested his wife, Usha, to come to their aid. Summoning her mystical powers she rendered Indra, the King of the devtas, immobile. The other devtas fled to Vishnu and implored him to rescue Indra. Usha threatened to reduce both Indra and Vishnu to ashes, but before she could complete the incantation, Vishnu released his Sudarshan chakra (a disc like weapon which revolves around index finger) and beheaded Usha. When Bhrigu returned and saw the decapitated body of his wife, he gave a curse to Vishnu. Since Vishnu was guilty of killing a woman he would have to take birth on earth time and again. This provided the basis for the incarnations of Vishnu. Bhrigu then used his divine powers to rejoin the head and body of Usha and gave her fresh life.

After his failure with the demons, Indra turned his attention to Shukracharya. He sent his daughter, Jayanti, with instructions to either distract Shukracharya using her charms or win him over with her service. Jayanti's modest behaviour prevented her from seducing the Sage, so she followed the second option. For the remaining part of the thousand years Jayanti devotedly served Shukracharya. When the period of the penance was over, Shiva appeared and taught Shukracharya a mantra that would bring a dead person back to life. This mantra was known as the 'Mritsanjivni' or 'the one which brings the dead to life'. Having achieved his mission, Shukracharya turned his attention to Jayanti. He promised Jayanti a boon for the selfless manner in which she had attended to the needs of his penance. Jayanti asked that he live with her as her husband for ten years and Shukracharya willingly accepted.

Indra now hatched another plan. He told his teacher, Brihaspatii, that the demons were expecting Shukracharya, but unknown to them Shukracharya was living with Jayanti. Indra asked Brihaspati to impersonate Shukracharya and live with the demons. Some fortune would chance upon them sooner or later. Brihaspatidid so and over the next ten years he won the demons over completely. After ten years when Shukracharya returned, he was aghast to see that an imposter had taken his place. As expected accusations were traded, but Brihaspati had replicated Shukracharya so accurately that it was impossible to tell who was the real Shukracharya. Finally the demons settled for the man who had been guiding them for the last ten years and shooed the real Shukracharya away.

Shukracharya could not bear this insult, especially after the thousand-year penance he had undergone for their benefit. He was a hot-tempered person and immediately cursed the demons that they would never be able to conquer the devtas (deities). Indra heaved a sigh of relief; Brihaspati assumed his true form; the demons realized that they had been tricked but now had no recourse.

Shukracharya had always supported demons. In the battle between the devtas (deities) and demons, he used to bring back the dead demons to life with the power of his knowledge with which the devtas (deities) were defeated by demons.

After this Brihaspati sent his son Kacha to Shukracharya to learn the Mrita-Sanjivani Vidya. Shukracharya accepted Kacha as his student. But other demons didn't like it. As the time progressed Kacha fell in love with the daughter of Shukracharya, Devyani. This irritated the demons. In the absence of Shukracharya, demons killed Kacha. This news had upset Devyani a lot. On the request of his daughter, Sage Shukracharya brought back life to Kacha with the help of "Mritsanjivni" knowledge. From there the love between Kacha and Devyani grew day by day. One day while Kacha was alone in forest, the demons killed him for the second time. They burnt his body and mixed his ashes in the drink of Shukracharya. When Devyani came to know about this she was shocked. She requested her father for the second time. The agony of his daughter was unbearable for Shukracharya. Again he used his powers to bring life back to Kacha. As a result Kacha came back to life and came out from inside the stomach of Shukracharya. But Shukracharya had to give up his own life to bring him out. Now this was Kacha's turn to bring life back to his Guru. He did the same. From this day wine is forbidden for those engaged in the pursuit of wisdom. Realizing his mistake of consuming Sura (wine) and its after effect, Shukracharya prohibited the Brahmins from consuming it and warned them that it would destroy their religiousness and that they would acquire the sins similar to that of killing a Brahmin and would be condemned both in this world and the other world. Devyani was happy to found both of them alive. But a new problem erupted. Kacha disagreed to marry Devyani on the grounds that since he was reborn from the stomach of Shukracharya so he could not marry his daughter Devyani. This was a bitter shock for her. She cursed Kacha that from now he would never be able to use this knowledge. Even Kacha cursed Devyani that no Brahmin will marry her.

Shukracharya had another wife named Gou with whom he had four sons. All these four sons were killed during the battle with the devtas (deities). Shukracharya was very proud of his knowledge and spiritual power and so he always hate Brihaspati, the guru of the devtas.

Shukracharya, the preceptor of the demons though hated the devtas (deities), the Saints and devtas respected him because of his knowledge, wisdom and power acquired by religious austerities. In the Indian tradition of knowledge also Shukracharya is remembered as a great scholar.


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