Why Poor - Page 4

yes I meant poorer.. but trump was on a brink of bankruptcy in late 80's and early 90's due to taking huge risks. he is rich because some of the risks paid off .

good. dont know what either qwerty or u found to disagree with what i had then.😉

as for his being on the verge of bankruptcy, it's also nice that u acknowledge that it was because of business risks he took, not because he was busy divorcing women, like u said earlier. 😉wonder if your earlier comments on that were just some jokes u were trying?😛

Originally posted by: lighthouse

those words follow logically. qwerty said that rich people have an IQ between 70 and 90. if that's the case, why do parents try to get their kids more intelligent? why dont they try to dumb down their kids? isnt doing well financially one of the things most parents want for their kids? no? really?😛

now if he was just trying his brand of humor, one cant fathom. am just going with what he stated😉

Originally posted by: lighthouse

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You are taking things out of context and making conclusions on what is said.. My response was to your comment about affluent people not needing morals and I just explained , to stay rich and affluent morals are needed more then ever as there are more opportunities to step out of line and make poor immoral decisions.

hmmm. not done. did i say that rich people dont need morals?😕 what i said was that affluence/ poverty dont have much to do with morality, unless we are talking about the affluence/ poverty of the mind. to you, do those words mean rich people dont need morals? if anything, i imply that there's a distinction between the materialistic life and the spiritual one.

now can you tell us how u developed the comprehension you did for what i had.😕 😉

which means that if there's someone taking things outa context, it seems to be you, not me. without the clarifications u just offered, u seemed to be saying things earlier that were quite different. 😉

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Ok I talked about people being rich large cause

can u explain what this juxtaposition of words might mean?😕😉

they may be immoral or being darn lucky.. i never mentioned loose morals makes people poor.. I said most common people who are God fearing tend to be poor (rather I would say not rich) cause they cant commit crimes...

common people. God fearing. arent u making assumptions about whether others are God fearing?😕

common to paths of getting richer..

dont know the kind of people u've seen who lead u to these beliefs. is warren buffet a crook? is bill gates a crook? is narayan murthy a crook? is jrd tata a crook? is lakshmi mittal a crook? are the "common man" babus who take bribes and the low-class low-IQ politicians who get rich less of crooks?😕

unless u r the laid back lottery winner, now I dont say everybody has to be criminal.. lest, the next time you quote me as "rich people are criminals"...😆

dont have to. we can always hang your quote about rich people having an IQ between 70 and 90.😛😉

Originally posted by: chatbuster

Read posts again.. besides crime I have said about another way of becoming rich.. and you will know what I am saying...the juxtaposition is "largely because..". man are you in habit of reading those extra large print books or what... context ka sahara lo...out of context padhne sey aisa hee hota hai?😆

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Read posts again.. besides crime I have said about another way of becoming rich.. and you will know what I am saying...the juxtaposition is "largely because..". man are you in habit of reading those extra large print books or what... context ka sahara lo...out of context padhne sey aisa hee hota hai?😆

no, but are u in the habit of thinking people will read words u dont write and forget about the words u do write?😕😊 didnt u state earlier that rich people have IQs between 70 and 90, and that all businesses in the US are run that way? now, what cubicle do u want us to use in terms of context, stuff that you write or stuff that you dont write?😉

Originally posted by: chatbuster

no, but are u in the habit of thinking people will read words u dont write and forget about the words u do write?😕😊 didnt u state earlier that rich people have IQs between 70 and 90, and that all businesses in the US are run that way? now, what cubicle do u want us to use in terms of context, stuff that you write or stuff that you dont write?😉

if you stop doing iski topi uske sar kind of context switching maybe you will get clearer picture..😆

Originally posted by: SolidSnake

This!

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Being poor means...

Bakwaas education (you know govt schools) or no education

as far as govt schools r concerned...i personally know a lot of people who have reached great heights in their career with what u r calling "bakwas education". jisey padhna hai woh kaheen bhi padheyga. jisey naheen padhna...woh achhey sey achhey school mein bhi naheen padheyga. as far as "no education"...well, they choose not to get the education despite so many sarkari schools around them coz their priorities are different....their attitude is different.

No guidance (which is crucial IMO)

if they choose not to go for an education, then it is mostly a given...shdn't surprise anyone. still, there r plenty of role models around them if they just change their attitude and get that zeal to make something outta themselves. all they need to do is looks around them...identify one...and reach out along with a determination to pull themselves out of poverty. the role model cld be in form of the aunty in whose house they wash clothes or the seth ji whose car they drive. there r people out there who'll help when approached. problem arises when one is satisfied what one has and makes no effort to improve their condition...worst...one cribs about badkismatee all the time but wouldn't even lift a finger to do something about the poverty they r in.

Lack of support system (tution, books and other stuff)

again, if one doesn't try hard enuff, one shd not be blaming their failures on lack of support system. there r instances where some poor people had the zeal and they did find a way to get all that is required to get an education. best example is Dr. Ambedkar. If some can do this...why can't others? they may not be able to rise to Dr. Ambedkar's level...but they can at least make a beginning...can't they?

Limited scope of thinking (doesn't get to know much about the prospective course or opportunities)

that again ties to the attitude...the lack of motivation or zeal to make something out of themselves. the passive acceptance of what fate handed them out.

i don't think most poor people are born with a low iq or most rich people r born with a high iq. of course, education helps in enhancing whatever iq one is born with and rich have easier access to education than poor. but think about it...kabhi na kabhi kisi bahut puraney samay mein all must have been at the same levl. over the time some climbed up, some stayed where they were and some slipped further down the ladder. what caused that.....i think attitude, motivation, zeal to do something better than what one had.

someone mentioned that low iq is like a loop for the poor...which came first...the chicken or the egg...i agree with that analogy. but their iq stays low because they do not make any efforts to avail whatever limited opportunities are available to them out there. even god helps those who help themselves. the poor need to make the efforts. only then they will see the path to a better future.

i also read on this thread that businessmen do not need the iq to do their business. that, i feel, is totally incorrect. no matter what u choose to do, one needs the brains and the zeal...both....to excel in it. i also refuse to believe that poor people stay poor because they r god fearing😆 ever heard...bhookey peyt na bhajey gopala😆 wonder where that came from then😛

in a nutshell, i feel the a wrong attitude and the lack of zeal is what keeps them poor or makes them poorer over time.

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

Yes there are exceptions but they are exceptions.