Why Poor - Page 3

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

its matter of perspective.. my friend.. whereas you are absolving conscience from making the people poor she was absolving the rich peoples IQ and immorality from their richness..

what are u trying to say here? 😛😆

now if you can think or even better dont think , just rapple

cld u keep this drivel out for a change. at least try?😆

through your pov's u might end up agreeing with both of us...😆

hard to do. u're pointing north while she's pointing south.😉

unless again you want to take the sommersault of sorts... forget who is on whose side... dont go that route.. though I can tell u i havent had any reasons to disagree LH's point of view...abhi sach toh sach hee hai na..

sure.😆

sides lene sey sach nahi badalta.. kal ko she says sun rises in the east...and i say its sets in the west will u contend just on basis of biases that sun rises in the north or something more wierd..NNW or NNE!!!??😆

better example wld be someone saying the sun rises in the east, and for two people to come in disagreeing, one saying it rises in the north, other saying it rises in the south. get my point?😉

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

i guess we'll have to do this one step at a time. she used the word "poor". do they really become poor?😉 let's have a straight answer. shldnt be too hard to simply answer yes or no.😉

Originally posted by: chatbuster

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

no.. not really.. all i am ssaying they shouldnt or cant be killing them if their IQ is 110 and not 180...😆

is there some IQ creep going on now? 😆u started off saying rich people have an IQ between 70-90. now it seems u're wanting people to have an IQ of at least 110. u can back away from that 70-90 if u were just trying one of your jokes😉. but do let us know if u were serious about it😉

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

cant we have something better in a debating forum? other than to try and evade answers by simply claiming others are being ignorant?

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

bad analogy.. she was talking about rich and i was talking about poor.. so its opposite not whacky..😉

no bud. she talked about rich people becoming poor because of being "immoral"- divorces costing them 10s of millions and ultimately bankrupting them. u talked about people becoming rich only because they are being immoral. one way, loose morals makes people poor. another way, it makes them rich. so which of u got that right?😉

Originally posted by: Morning_Dew

Here is another debate:

Poor people are poor, cause they have low IQs , otherwise, they would've made their own ways eventually to get rich ..

Or

It is nothing to do with IQ it is more of the chances of opportunity.

What you say ? 😊

This!

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Being poor means...

Bakwaas education (you know govt schools) or no education

No guidance (which is crucial IMO)

Lack of support system (tution, books and other stuff)

Limited scope of thinking (doesn't get to know much about the prospective course or opportunities)

Originally posted by: chatbuster

no bud. she talked about rich people becoming poor because of being "immoral"- divorces costing them 10s of millions and ultimately bankrupting them. u talked about people becoming rich only because they are being immoral. one way, loose morals makes people poor. another way, it makes them rich. so which of u got that right?😉

People get rich being moral or immoral .. There isn't only one path to being rich, I think we can all agree on that. But immoral people are more likely to have false sense of invincibility which can induce risk taking behaviours and making poor decisions in absence of morality that have colossal consequences. I was refering to white collar crimes commited by corp executives (enron, tyco, worldcom etc) . This is what I meant in my earlier post about having a moral integrity as well as high IQ.

Originally posted by: chatbuster

no bud. she talked about rich people becoming poor because of being "immoral"- divorces costing them 10s of millions and ultimately bankrupting them. u talked about people becoming rich only because they are being immoral. one way, loose morals makes people poor. another way, it makes them rich. so which of u got that right?😉

Ok I talked about people being rich large cause they may be immoral or being darn lucky.. i never mentioned loose morals makes people poor.. I said most common people who are God fearing tend to be poor (rather I would say not rich) cause they cant commit crimes...common to paths of getting richer..unless u r the laid back lottery winner, now I dont say everybody has to be criminal.. lest, the next time you quote me as "rich people are criminals"...😆

Originally posted by: chatbuster

you mean poorer, not poor, dont you?😛 paul mccartney and donald trump, even after dishing out tens of millions of dollars/ pounds, aint exactly poor, are they? ab hain toh batao😛

yes I meant poorer.. but trump was on a brink of bankruptcy in late 80's and early 90's due to taking huge risks. he is rich because some of the risks paid off .

btw, are u with qwerty on having the kids dumb down in order to do well?😉

What's this? trying to put words in my mouth that he didn't say..😕

as it turns out, in the process of disagreeing with what i had, you ended up saying the exact opposite thing that qwerty is saying.😉 he seems to be saying immoral people get to be rich. you're saying immoral people become financially bankrupt. which one of you is correct? just a hint- i think neither.😉

You are taking things out of context and making conclusions on what is said.. My response was to your comment about affluent people not needing morals and I just explained , to stay rich and affluent morals are needed more then ever as there are more opportunities to step out of line and make poor immoral decisions.