Overated things about Independence - Page 3

Originally posted by: Maya_M

Is patriotism an over rated emotion these days??? When the independence day (Aug 15) date nears .... the sense of Indian ness and patriotism is overly displayed in the print and electronic media.

No. It is not. We cannot celebrate Independence Day every day. So when it is Aug 15 we try to speak more about it and show our patriotism to commemorate the day we gained freedom. We can't keep printing about independence everyday in media. We all refer to it from time to time.

Indepence is a long process and lakhs of people contributed to it and why is it that only someleaders and some issues are given importance??

It is a fact that some people have that charisma to make people listen to them. It is a verity and true for any time not just independence. Some issues are insistent which stays in our minds. Like the Jalianwala massacre. Bhagat Singh had a brief time in struggle for independence but every Indian knows him and the cause for which he sacrificed his life.

Did'nt independence struggle exist before Gandhi ji ?

Independence struggle started long back because Indian provinces being rich always had foreigners attacking us to loot something. Most of the things are not recorded because the rulers preferred to highlight their mighty acts so we get to read only the good things about the then rulers and not about the freedom struggle happened then. But many such names are recorded in many private accounts the families carry. Accounts of freedom struggle started to find place in books probably in mid 1800s and through out 1900s and Mahatma Gandhi was inarguably the most charismatic leader India had.

Who are the over rated leaders particulary regarding Indian Indepence?Who are the leaders not acknowledged properly till date?

Overrated means someone who gets unnecessary mention for doing less work than others. So in the sense we certainly have many overrated leaders. We have every right to comment on our history and leaders. If we accept everything in the past as it is then probably I am qualified only to comment on things which happened since 1979 onwards😕 . Anyways my list of overrated and underrated leaders is too long to post here. 😛

I will mention 2 names who couldn't make it to the big league in my opinion and they are C.Rajagopalachari and Maulana Abul Kalam Azad. CR was touted as the first President of India but due to his proximity to leaders like Patel, excuses were made. Nehru wanted a President who was closer to him and not Patel. So yes, that is one name. Maulana was a true Indian Muslim who opposed the idea of partition but he rarely finds mention when we talk about it.

Thanks for the post Mythili.

Nice post Maya ji👏

Originally posted by: chatbuster

wanted to just talk about some of the freedom fighters we had:

bose- i found him a very inspirational heroic figure when i was small. one of my idols. but i feel today that he'd have put india and indians on the wrong side of history. his support for the japanese was wrong. his approach was the same as the nazis- the ends justify the means. they dont! if he had lived and if he had become a PM or something, india would not have had the friendship she did from the americans till the 60s, till india pulled the non-aligned rabbit out of the hat. we would have forever covered our heads in shame.

nehru- much as i believe he mismanaged things, ran our defense security to the ground, i feel he was a patriot all the same. noone considers him the greatest patriot in any event, but wouldn't india be better off if other rich scions also cared enough to give up on a life of great privilege and comfort and spend years working for the nation's cause? of course, he brought class and style, but with that he brought a certain dignity and pathos for us on the world stage as well.

gandhiji- he was not perfect, not necessarily even original with his pacifist philosophies, since we had that earlier in our history too. i might not even subscribe to his economic ideologies, but i believe he gave something unique to the modern world that every indian could be proud of even today. if india is a thriving multi-cultural open tolerant society, gandhiji had a lot to do with it. his hard service to the nation, his contribution to our nation's independence and his philosophies can never be overestimated. he is truly the father of the nation.

bhagat singh- it's pathetic when families of freedom fighters such as him have had to live a life of poverty, when people who made movies on his story have made more money than his folks.

i would take a 100 crores off every politician and industrialist's hide and give it to the families of every freedom fighter. they are the ones who have more claim than anyone else to whatever has been created. for some reason though i dont think those families would take the money, patriots as they were.

i would also take a 100 crores and give it to the parents of Arun Khetarpal and others, folks who won PVC and MVC and other medals fighting for the country, for what it stands for.

sorry if my opinions offended anyone.

Thanks for sharing such nice thoughts with all of us😊.Nice post as always😛

Originally posted by: mythili_Kiran

Is patriotism an over rated emotion these days???

Not in general

When the independence day (Aug 15) date nears .... the sense of Indian ness and patriotism is overly displayed in the print and electronic media.

Overrated by Media

Indepence is a long process and lakhs of people contributed to it and why is it that only someleaders and some issues are given importance??

Agar Dinesh kartik ne century mara.... but dhoni finishes match with sixer.... what will be discussed in media 😆

Who are the over rated leaders particulary regarding Indian Indepence?Did'nt independence struggle exist before Gandhi ji ?

repeat: Agar Dinesh kartik ne century mara.... but dhoni finishes match with sixer.... what will be discussed in media 😆

Who are the leaders not acknowledged properly till date?

Century makers like, Bhagat Singh, all the fighters in 1857 war, so many other freedom fighters, subhash chandra bose, lokmanya tilak (he founded public Ganesh utsav to compete with british... it was a great move always neglected), there are so many who are nt given importance.... and finally Nathuram godse IMO.... but the importance went to the person who hit the sixer (signing the partition deed to get the independence)....😊

Cheers,

Myth

Originally posted by: kabhi_21

it was a great move always neglected), there are so many who are nt given importance.... and finally Nathuram godse IMO.... but the importance went to the person who hit the sixer (signing the partition deed to get the independence)....😊

Since you mentioned that name I recently learnt from another member that Nathuram Godse is that member's great uncle (grandmom's brother).😊