Overated things about Independence - Page 2

Originally posted by: mythili_Kiran

Is patriotism an over rated emotion these days???

Its not an over rated emotion.Its an emotion which is inherent in every person but comes out occasionally during these days of AUG 15 and JAN 26 😆

When the independence day (Aug 15) date nears .... the sense of Indian ness and patriotism is overly displayed in the print and electronic media.

Indepence is a long process and lakhs of people contributed to it and why is it that only someleaders and some issues are given importance??

Who are the over rated leaders particulary regarding Indian Indepence?Did'nt independence struggle exist before Gandhi ji ?

Freedom struggle started somany years back before Gandhi ji.Several people in different regions of the country made their contributions ...but Gandhiji could bring diffeent people together and framed some possible strategy to acheive independence...

Nehru and Ambedkar are the most over rated leaders of India till date..

Who are the leaders not acknowledged properly till date?

Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose,Sardar Vallabhai Patel.

Gandhiji liked Nehru and so he groomed Nehru...

Gandhiji did'nt allow Patel ji to become PM only for the reason ,he is not classy or stylish like Nehru..donno what Nehru fetched to India by being so stylish and classy!

The most miserable thing is Patel ji is given Bharat Ratna after Rajeev Gandhi

Cheers,

Myth

Originally posted by: mythili_Kiran

Is patriotism an over rated emotion these days???

I dont think its over rated......all indian feel proud ...

When the independence day (Aug 15) date nears .... the sense of Indian ness and patriotism is overly displayed in the print and electronic media.

I dont think so, all indians feel a kind of patriotism...now a days 100s of channels there(b4 ek DD only) ,Now they compete to get more sensetional programs n news thats why feel so.

Indepence is a long process and lakhs of people contributed to it and why is it that only someleaders and some issues are given importance??

Some leaders do like that cheap politics for their political gain nothing more in it.

Who are the over rated leaders particulary regarding Indian Indepence?Did'nt independence struggle exist before Gandhi ji ?

I dont understand how a freedom fighter over rated? he/she done it for our country...so i dont think nobody over rated.. all are same..

Who are the leaders not acknowledged properly till date?

Mere padoosan Gopal ji.....,Purane purane freedom fight ki story sunke main dhak gaya hu.....kuch tho karoooo😕

Cheers,chill

Myth,Vinu

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Originally posted by: mythili_Kiran

Originally posted by: chatbuster

wanted to just talk about some of the freedom fighters we had: bose- i found him a very inspirational heroic figure when i was small. one of my idols. but i feel today that he'd have put india and indians on the wrong side of history. his support for the japanese was wrong. his approach was the same as the nazis- the ends justify the means. they dont! if he had lived and if he had become a PM or something, india would not have had the friendship she did from the americans till the 60s, till india pulled the non-aligned rabbit out of the hat. we would have forever covered our heads in shame. nehru- much as i believe he mismanaged things, ran our defense security to the ground, i feel he was a patriot all the same. noone considers him the greatest patriot in any event, but wouldn't india be better off if other rich scions also cared enough to give up on a life of great privilege and comfort and spend years working for the nation's cause? of course, he brought class and style, but with that he brought a certain dignity and pathos for us on the world stage as well. gandhiji- he was not perfect, not necessarily even original with his pacifist philosophies, since we had that earlier in our history too. i might not even subscribe to his economic ideologies, but i believe he gave something unique to the modern world that every indian could be proud of even today. if india is a thriving multi-cultural open tolerant society, gandhiji had a lot to do with it. his hard service to the nation, his contribution to our nation's independence and his philosophies can never be overestimated. he is truly the father of the nation. bhagat singh- it's pathetic when families of freedom fighters such as him have had to live a life of poverty, when people who made movies on his story have made more money than his folks. i would take a 100 crores off every politician and industrialist's hide and give it to the families of every freedom fighter. they are the ones who have more claim than anyone else to whatever has been created. for some reason though i dont think those families would take the money, patriots as they were. i would also take a 100 crores and give it to the parents of Arun Khetarpal and others, folks who won PVC and MVC and other medals fighting for the country, for what it stands for. sorry if my opinions offended anyone.

Originally posted by: raksha.l

No they did not, if someone chooses to still get offended, let them go take a hike and never come back...

I am especially touched with your reminder of ArunK .. 👏

thanks. here's something on the net written by one of his "fans". the family of course came over from Pakistan.

Everybody in this world has a role model or a 'Hero' who he/she intends to be. Well I have got one. But my hero is different from others, he is not Shah Rukh or Hrithik or any other artificial hunk. He is a REAL HERO. Well, very less people know of him. He is the youngest OFFICER to get a PARAM VIR CHAKRA. He got Martyrdom, fighting for the country at a young age of 21!

He is 2nd Lieutenant Arun Khetarpal, son of Brigadier M.L. Khetarpal, was born on 14 October 1950, in Pune, Maharashtra. He was commissioned in the 17 Poona Horse on 13 June 1971.

Is patriotism an over rated emotion these days??? When the independence day (Aug 15) date nears .... the sense of Indian ness and patriotism is overly displayed in the print and electronic media.

No. It is not. We cannot celebrate Independence Day every day. So when it is Aug 15 we try to speak more about it and show our patriotism to commemorate the day we gained freedom. We can't keep printing about independence everyday in media. We all refer to it from time to time.

Indepence is a long process and lakhs of people contributed to it and why is it that only someleaders and some issues are given importance??

It is a fact that some people have that charisma to make people listen to them. It is a verity and true for any time not just independence. Some issues are insistent which stays in our minds. Like the Jalianwala massacre. Bhagat Singh had a brief time in struggle for independence but every Indian knows him and the cause for which he sacrificed his life.

Did'nt independence struggle exist before Gandhi ji ?

Independence struggle started long back because Indian provinces being rich always had foreigners attacking us to loot something. Most of the things are not recorded because the rulers preferred to highlight their mighty acts so we get to read only the good things about the then rulers and not about the freedom struggle happened then. But many such names are recorded in many private accounts the families carry. Accounts of freedom struggle started to find place in books probably in mid 1800s and through out 1900s and Mahatma Gandhi was inarguably the most charismatic leader India had.

Who are the over rated leaders particulary regarding Indian Indepence?Who are the leaders not acknowledged properly till date?

Overrated means someone who gets unnecessary mention for doing less work than others. So in the sense we certainly have many overrated leaders. We have every right to comment on our history and leaders. If we accept everything in the past as it is then probably I am qualified only to comment on things which happened since 1979 onwards😕 . Anyways my list of overrated and underrated leaders is too long to post here. 😛

I will mention 2 names who couldn't make it to the big league in my opinion and they are C.Rajagopalachari and Maulana Abul Kalam Azad. CR was touted as the first President of India but due to his proximity to leaders like Patel, excuses were made. Nehru wanted a President who was closer to him and not Patel. So yes, that is one name. Maulana was a true Indian Muslim who opposed the idea of partition but he rarely finds mention when we talk about it.

Thanks for the post Mythili.

Originally posted by: chatbuster

thanks. here's something on the net written by one of his "fans". the family of course came over from Pakistan.

<FONT face=Arial>Everybody in this world has a role model or a 'Hero' who he/she intends to be. Well I have got one. But my hero is different from others, he is not Shah Rukh or Hrithik or any other artificial hunk. He is a REAL HERO. Well, very less people know of him. He is the youngest OFFICER to get a PARAM VIR CHAKRA. He got Martyrdom, fighting for the country at a young age of 21!

<FONT face=VERDANA,ARIAL>He is<FONT face=VERDANA,ARIAL color=#ff0000> 2nd Lieutenant Arun Khetarpal<FONT face=VERDANA,ARIAL color=#3b3b3b size=2>, son of Brigadier M.L. Khetarpal, was born on 14 October 1950, in Pune, Maharashtra. He was commissioned in the 17 Poona Horse on 13 June 1971.

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