evading VA tech massacre? - Page 5

Originally posted by: sareg

Blind support to any strategy is wrong, but blind dislike for any item is wrong too, everything has to be in proportion

now i agree. moderation is always the key.

Cho sent a package to NBC before killing spree:

https://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18169776/

Sometime after he killed two people in a Virginia university dormitory but before he slaughtered 30 more in a classroom building, Cho Seung-Hui mailed NBC News a large package including photographs and videos Monday morning, boasting, "When the time came, I did it. I had to."

Originally posted by: usachick821

hi everyone, i usually post here often, but i havent been able to do so in a while. It saddens me that this debate is what brings me here because one of my dearest friend's cousin whom i knew very well was shot and killed in this massacre. He will remain nameless but had went to Fishburne Military School in Waynesboro, VA, where i live and go to high school. A lot of people my school who i have known for years from Stuart Hall (my high school) were there, but thank god they're okay.

I dont want to start this debate to blame someone for this, but what could they have done better to prevent this from happening in the first place, i mean without restricting people's freedom?

really sorry to read the news about your friend, usachick. may his soul rest in peace and may the families of all victims find the strength to cope with this tragedy.

imo, the university is at fault here. they did not force cho to get medical help when needed, saying that more serious reasons were needed to force someone into psychiatric help (like murdering over a dozen people perhaps?)

neither did they shut down the campus for the day. instead they called the first shooting an "isolated incident".

and now they are simply trying to cover up their own incompetence by hyping cho's psychotic behaviour.

Originally posted by: egghatcher

have you ever considered that the president of this university may be the perfect first candidate for intensive therapy in denial ? When you have fire you dont swing the extinguisher at the flame ..... but at the base where the fire stems from ..

i would rather think its the person who made the rules for the counselors, which said they could not regulate mandatory therapy unless it caused injury.

Originally posted by: egghatcher

have you ever considered that the president of this university may be the perfect first candidate for intensive therapy in denial ? When you have fire you dont swing the extinguisher at the flame ..... but at the base where the fire stems from ..

Why president.. i think the whole town seemed to know he was aberrated... nobody bothered to take him seriously.......!!! if you saw the room-mates interview they said he appeared normal... so whats the exact transition from apparent normal to out and out whacko...

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Why president.. i think the whole town seemed to know he was aberrated... nobody bothered to take him seriously.......!!! if you saw the room-mates interview they said he appeared normal... so whats the exact transition from apparent normal to out and out whacko...

What about parents? I think they should be taking the blame too.. Not sure if they were busy running bussiness working 17 hrs a day like any other Korean/asian Immigrant parents often are and letting the kid grow up alone.. Parents need to be in touch with their kids outlook and general behaviour when the kid hides ina room m ost of the time or have minimal contact with the parents.

Originally posted by: lighthouse

What about parents? I think they should be taking the blame too.. Not sure if they were busy running bussiness working 17 hrs a day like any other Korean/asian Immigrant parents often are and letting the kid grow up alone.. Parents need to be in touch with their kids outlook and general behaviour when the kid hides ina room m ost of the time or have minimal contact with the parents.

Yes they were washing the dirty linen for the whole town... could have dry cleaned his brain as well...

Originally posted by: lighthouse

What about parents? I think they should be taking the blame too.. Not sure if they were busy running bussiness working 17 hrs a day like any other Korean/asian Immigrant parents often are and letting the kid grow up alone.. Parents need to be in touch with their kids outlook and general behaviour when the kid hides ina room m ost of the time or have minimal contact with the parents.

Agree LH 100% . Parents are to be blamed to some extent here. I was saying same to my husband this morning. There were signs in front of the parents for long time. May be they refused to see them or were in denial. Usually all Asians like to hide issues and don't discuss them with anyone. May be something could have been done abt it. Communication is the key here. Fathers are the biggest role models for boys. Interection between parents and child especially Father-Son relationship makes boy into man IMHO.

Only Families and Victims of Violent crimes do know how it feels and how horrendous this act was. We all can sympathize and empathize.

I hear LA-Korean community is apologizing for his act. No one should own that responsibility but CHO himself and anyone else who ingnored all the signs for his act.

Every one who ignored all these signs including parents, School authority, President were all in denial.

The way CHO played this whole thing out was clever. He killed the two and was gone for 2 hrs. That was to throw a curve to the school authority. Than he comes back and kills 30 more at another part of campus while authority could be looking at the first 2 killings. CHO character had been planning this for a long time.

Doesn't VA have cooling off period for gun purchase??

Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Every one who ignored all these signs including parents, School authority, President were all in denial.

The way CHO played this whole thing out was clever. He killed the two and was gone for 2 hrs. That was to throw a curve to the school authority. Than he comes back and kills 30 more at another part of campus while authority could be looking at the first 2 killings. CHO character had been planning this for a long time.

Doesn't VA have cooling off period for gun purchase??

I absolutely agree with you. I pity parents who can not be their child's best friends. There are so many things once can share with parents w/o being a sissy. There is no pain and no shame in that. All it requires is a listening family member. (I also wonder if they were overly/ insanely controling and demanding while he grew up). CHO was mad at the USA for several reasons. Given the campus life information pages, VTech is probably not a place where asians are one or two in number / blatantly looked down at. Yet CHO did seem to have racial insecurity apart from economic insecurity. I wonder why he continued to reside here, if his rage was so overwhelming himself. All of us have troubles and issues, but we have a support system. Whatever happened to his support system?? I wish they were stronger.

I don't even want to comment on gun-lobby and gun-buying. Someone shot someone at BART the other night.. and all a traveller like me can do is count their blessings .. The train is closed. One man can rampantly kill several with them having nowhere to escape. 🤢 Why are we so bothered about WOMD outside yet don't care to control WOD in the hands of children & mentally sick among others!