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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mermaid_QT



I absolutely agree with you. I pity parents who can not be their child's best friends. There are so many things once can share with parents w/o being a sissy. There is no pain and no shame in that. All it requires is a listening family member. (I also wonder if they were overly/ insanely controling and demanding while he grew up). CHO was mad at the USA for several reasons. Given the campus life information pages, VTech is probably not a place where asians are one or two in number / blatantly looked down at. Yet CHO did seem to have racial insecurity apart from economic insecurity. I wonder why he continued to reside here, if his rage was so overwhelming himself. All of us have troubles and issues, but we have a support system. Whatever happened to his support system?? I wish they were stronger.

I don't even want to comment on gun-lobby and gun-buying. Someone shot someone at BART the other night.. and all a traveller like me can do is count their blessings .. The train is closed. One man can rampantly kill several with them having nowhere to escape. 🤢 Why are we so bothered about WOMD outside yet don't care to control WOD in the hands of children & mentally sick among others!

QT, He had step father. Parents were in dry cleaning busines.. What I hear is his Grandfather (Dadaji) said his son CHO's father used to sell books back in Korea. He came to US for betterment of his and his family life. Grandpa did not know the extent of what was going on. Not a whole lot of contact.

Sometimes with NRIs if they don't have good family contact-support and friends from any type especially their own community they get so disconnected from everything. With his parents in D-C business dunno how much time they had for him. But again his sister is student in Princeton. He might be a loner or aloof guy by nature 😕

It is so important for us to have some type of support system. If one does not have family here than create one of your own who cares what community it is. We are social animals and we must be surrounded by people.

@ train story I am just 😲

Edited by Dabulls23 - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mermaid_QT


Whatever happened to his support system??





he definitely was insecure, what do you mean by support system? family you mean?
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dabulls23

It is so important for us to have some type of support system. If one does not have family here than create one of your own who cares what community it is. We are social animals and we must be surrounded by people.

Exactly!! I was one of those F1 kids far away from home too. And so many of us are!! In fact, there were only 3 indians in the program spanning 6 years of graduate school. What I meant is one needs to have a support system and it is easier if you are friendly and open-minded. About the parents- comment, I essentially meant that deep down in the heart, when you are connected with them, it is good enough. I am not saying calling them everyday is essential. More like "They are there for you and that world is a great place because they are there, they are there for you"- kind of feeling to hold.

Continuing with spook story, my car had spun on the roadside, upside down, myself inside, but I din't losemy brain thinking about you know who? my mom, my dad. Now you know what I meant? If your family is with you, withing you, .. it makes it easy.. Battles are easier, and one never feels defeated!

Never to undermine the social support system either, but it is harder for loners. And again, there are those who are alone in the crowd. I think strenght within is the best thing parents can offer 😳.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: raunaq



he definitely was insecure, what do you mean by support system? family you mean?



Family , friends, atleast one other soul who heard him, cared for him, shared & felt for him! Not even one? Even loners have someone. Don't they?
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mermaid_QT


<span>Family , friends, atleast one other soul who heard him, cared for him, shared & felt for him! Not even one? Even loners have someone. Don't they? </span>



yes at least one friend or at least someone, but if he himself is not willing to open himself then?
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Posted: 18 years ago
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yes at least one friend or at least someone, but if he himself is not willing to open himself then?

CHO had his own perception of life and world within his own mind and that is how he saw everything. He was not willing let anyone in his world. He looked so emotionless although full of hate and anger within. He was reading as if he was there was no big deal.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dabulls23

CHO had his own perception of life and world within his own mind and that is how he saw everything. He was not willing let anyone in his world. He looked so emotionless although full of hate and anger within. He was reading as if he was there was no big deal.


This is why I blame authorities.
This whether anyone agrees or not, is a clear sign of social disconnect, that needs to be monitored by authorities. Abnormal psychology says so :) And if they actually employ some quality professionals (not quack), those people can make such people talk and ease people like CHO. Cases like CHO are rare, but certainly he wasn't an exception. There are designated protocols to enter such mind and heart. I'd love for a psychologist to back me on this one!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Every one who ignored all these signs including parents, School authority, President were all in denial.

The way CHO played this whole thing out was clever. He killed the two and was gone for 2 hrs. That was to throw a curve to the school authority. Than he comes back and kills 30 more at another part of campus while authority could be looking at the first 2 killings. CHO character had been planning this for a long time.

Doesn't VA have cooling off period for gun purchase??

Who said he had signs.. He has some observations following him.. But those dont entitle him to be institutionalized.. they should make gun laws stronger... if you take the gun out of the scenario... there wouldnt be any crime or if at all a small one, not a mass slaughter....

Living with uninstitutionalized psychotics, paranoid and schizophrenic and others in this world is not uncommon...and not so harmful either...

Three things could prevent this in future

1. Ban guns but if you cant

2. Legalize marijuana or other psychotropic drugs to passivate the rage...

Edited by qwertyesque - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Who said he had signs.. He has some observations following him.. But those dont entitle him to be institutionalized.. they should make gun laws stronger... if you take the gun out of the scenario... there wouldnt be any crime or if at all a small one, not a mass slaughter....

Living with uninstitutionalized psychotics, paranoid and schizophrenic and others in this world is not uncommon...and not so harmful either...

Three things could prevent this in future

1. Ban guns but if you cant

2. Legalize marijuana or other psychotropic drugs to passivate the rage...

Yes there were definitely signs of his troubles. Other students were afraid to be in his class. One of the teacher had guard outside b/c she was afraid of him. He even had troubled child reputation before he ever came to US. Atleast this is what I have understood from watching news on CNN & MSNB.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Yes there were definitely signs of his troubles. Other students were afraid to be in his class. One of the teacher had guard outside b/c she was afraid of him. He even had troubled child reputation before he ever came to US. Atleast this is what I have understood from watching news on CNN & MSNB.

Petsy when he they talked to him roomies of 8 months even they said he was normal..with certain stalking charges and bizarre play scripts I mean all we are concluding is in hind-sight... Nobody would think he would do such ghastly thing!!! If they suspected signs then the roomies woulf be the first to ask to be moved to another room...

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