Ayodhya:Ram Janmabhoomi - Page 8

Originally posted by: souro

Now you come after all the dhamaka.😛

😆😆😆 saari ramayan khatm ho gayee aur Persy poochh rahi hai ki Sita kis ka baap thha😆

Originally posted by: reeps

There is no end to any of it, is there? 😆

Just cause somebody is being ignorant doesn't mean one retaliates back, does it? What's the difference between the two then?

Out of curiosity, why was the Masjid pulled down? Just cause people "think" there was a temple there before, and it should be there now?? Did the govt. do it? Howcome nobody took consent of community for whom it was a place of worship? 😕

Persy

to understand the historical pattern here, go to Jerusalem, the holiest site for Jews and Christians. to get down to the Jewish synagogue which predates the muslim structure by thousands of years, you actually have to climb down from the Muslim masjid above. hello? how did the muslim structure get there?😉 in this case, can any historian/ archaeologist guarantee that Lord Ram was not actually born at that site?

btw, the masjid at that sight was not in active use back then. it had ceased being a place of worship, much as all the temples that are in shambles in other countries. but unlike other countries, not as a result of state policy or after driving off the minorities😉

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

😆😆😆 can't resist putting in my two cents here. I really feel that it was a political stunt....nothing more...nothing less...out and out "divide and rule" politics. IMHO, neither muslims nor hindus should react to it.....muslims should not get agitated and hindus should not get apologetic as neither was to blame for this. Blame it on bloo** politicians😊

ahh, that i dont agree with (u knew this had to happen, no?😆). at a certain level, politicians are basically representing the will of the people, at least in our country😉So wat say? blame the people?😛😆

Originally posted by: chatbuster

to understand the historical pattern here, go to Jerusalem, the holiest site for Jews and Christians. to get down to the Jewish synagogue which predates the muslim structure by thousands of years, you actually have to climb down from the Muslim masjid above. hello? how did the muslim structure get there?😉 in this case, can any historian/ archaeologist guarantee that Lord Ram was not actually born at that site?

actually it has been proven w/o doubt that a temple did exist there. Check this out:

http://www.hvk.org/specialrepo/rjm/ch8.html

btw, the masjid at that sight was not in active use back then. it had ceased being a place of worship, much as all the temples that are in shambles in other countries. but unlike other countries, not as a result of state policy or after driving off the minorities😉

Originally posted by: chatbuster

ahh, that i dont agree with (u knew this had to happen, no?😆). at a certain level, politicians are basically representing the will of the people, at least in our country😉So wat say? blame the people?😛😆

😆😆😆 actually I was anticipating this😆 Check my post again...I was editing it when you quoted it😛 I still like to blame the politicians for all that goes wrong in India😉 They did demolish the masjid but where is the mandir that was promised with such pomp and show......they got hindu votes then and are targeting muslim votes now.....hope I answered your question here😆

Originally posted by: souro

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

gazni was a fight in the flesh. what we have today is a fight for ideals and values.

btw, when the british rulers took out kohinoor, wonder why we didnt sue them. (never mind they were long dead 😉). why did we have to ask their descendants to right the historical wrong?😊

Originally posted by: chatbuster

i think you have this wrong QT.

awwww.. so I typed so much for a wrong cause then huh? 😭😭 .. 😉

ayodhya was not a cause. it was an effect. it was a result of accumulated bad behavior, the kind of aggressive destructive behavior that you or i as hindus would get our heads chopped off if we tried it in other countries. it was the result of years of neglecting hindu sentiments and priorities and shamefully pandering to the minority vote base.

EXACTLY!! this is what I wrote in soumya's response 👏.. so don't destroy the structure. Destroy the system. REWRITE the constitution!! Do not allow destructive elements to enhance their life because some silly politician promised them that in return of their votes.. Smack that politician & smack the voter who votes for him (well, no literally that one😉)

as for what hinduism teaches, sorry, but i think we have it wrong again. what was Mahabharat and Ramayan about? didnt Lord Krishna exhort Arjun to fight for what was right, for what was his, for "dharma"? wasnt Ramayan also a similar fight in concept?😊

Yes My dear!! Ofcourse Ram and Krishna and Kaleemata taught us to do adharmiyinka sanhaar.. So fight the system. Fight law makers and law implementers.

I was pointing at BLATANT criminals roaming around FREE in the land of RAM, while we are stuck on fighting silly for His janmabhoomy issue. The teachings of Ram are forgotten was a comment hurled @--> 1. shivsainiks EVE-TEASING 🤢 when they are not involved in such nobel destructive causes, 2. Bigger names in Nithari killings being hushed 😡, 3. Underworld and Corruption intwined into political pillars of the democracy 😡

We don;t have Suraj / Ram raj.. Why do we care for his janmabhoomi with so much passion?? 🤢

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

😆😆😆 saari ramayan khatm ho gayee aur Persy poochh rahi hai ki Sita kis ka baap thha😆

*sticking my tongue out* 😡😆😆 ... sorry, am not good with history/politics.... never paid attention to much of it until 5 years ago, and I only use politics as form of entertainment.... it's so amusing to see people fight like cats and dogs, and make issues about nothing and everything. Sometimes, politicians can be such fools! I guess most of the time, they are fools!😆 That is the reason I love sattire/political sattire. 😳 I wonder if politicians read Machiavelli's 'The Prince'....what their views on all of it are!😆 Oooh, very reason I loved Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani, too. Srk did a good job making a mockery of the system (media and politics)😆

Persy

Originally posted by: chatbuster

gazni was a fight in the flesh. what we have today is a fight for ideals and values.

btw, when the british rulers took out kohinoor, wonder why we didnt sue them. (never mind they were long dead 😉). why did we have to ask their descendants to right the historical wrong?😊

R, there are so many values and rights we SHOULD fight for, instead of Ram janambhoomi issue IMO. I think the main difference between you and I is that "mandir wahee banaaenge" motto neither MOVED me.. nor inspired me. I see where you are coming from. U are that joshila 😉.

🤣 @ the British comment

Yeah.. why did we ask for the kohinoor back?

I don;t get that either. When you have something precious that you fail to protect, is the other person wrong to steal it from you? Learn to respect and value what is precious and what could be eyed by others. Once it belongs to another,(You may catch the drift there ? may be..) there is no guarantee it should/could come back.

I am not justifying thieves, am I? 😆😆😆 Sounds like it. 😭 Brits were political thieves world-wide.