Religious Conversion - Your views - Page 8

It does not matter which religion one follows so long a one actually follows its teachings. The purpose of a religion is to go beyond and above the religion.

Originally posted by: poohtarang

Hi...I'm new in this forum😃...

I love debating😃...and i found this topic not just interesting but of great relevance in today's time...when people have started taking severe steps against issues like conversions...

Well...according to me,one can't blame them for taking the extreme routes of violence,though it's still contemptable.How long can a community tolerate intruders infiltrating into their religion,openly accusing and disintegrating a culture that's supposed to be the most ancient of all.It's really frustrating and annoying.First came the barbaric plunderers from west asia,who looted us,destroyed our temples...and gradually established their kingdom here.The conversions were tremendous...but still our culture sustanined fighting all odds...co-existing with the intruders,making them one among ourselves.And now we face the missionaries converting poor,uneducated tribals and destitutes.It's a pity that the government instead of worrying for the welfare of the poor(which is often the only main agenda in their party manifestoes while campaigning)create a hue and cry over people taking severe measures against the converters.These people can buy their faiths ,but not their hearts...which would always remain Indian...and one day they all will come back to the origin of their existence and true belief...If the missionaries want to do service to their religion,they must do it without anything in return...and buying a person's faith by luring them with material gains is the most heinous sin a person could do...and no religion ever teaches us to do so.It's really ironical that the institution of religion indulges in buying and selling of human souls...when they ought to have been playing the part of helping people to relieve themselves from the materialistic bonds and attain salvation.I know these words would sound hollow to a person's ear who hasn't had proper food,clothes or any of the basic needs since the day he/she was born(that lot of us are fortunate enough to have).And conversion is not a solution to this enormous problem...The priveleged in the majority community should understand this basic issue that's eating away half of our population forcing them to trade their faith as a commodity against their own conscience.We cannot rely on the government at any cost,cuz they are like parasites feeding on the disintegartion of one community,as they are only interested in votes...The majority community should integrate the various stratas of people,irrespective of caste or economic status...and should wholeheartedly work to bring out gennuine plans to find a solution to this problem...We are still bound to our prejudices of caste and creed...and it's hard time we all realise this and come out of our cocoons and do someting really serious like creating some groups(in a temple,in your locality...anywhere...),collecting funds(with proper records and not for filling our own pockets),and then helping the poor people who need help...not by donating to a wretched poor farmer a plasma t.v. set or a Dolce and Gabana luxury suit(when he's starving for a morsel of grain),but by providing them with long-lasting means of earning.And this has to be done,the quicker the better...it's very very necesary that we realise it soon...or no force can ever prevent a conversion forced(which is a gruesome reality in this 21st century) or otherwise...(which is indirect forced conversion.)

India is a secular nation...and being an Indian 'am proud of it...but this phenomenon has come into a successful practice due to the wisdom and tolerance of the most ancient religion of India...Look at any other country...where they claim to be hard core religious nation,they are quite intolerant towards other religions...let alone co-existence.This can only be possible in a country like India,where peace and tolerance are some habits that we acquire genetically from our ancestors...And we have sustained through all odds,without waging any jehad or conversion...we're the shining stars of a great civilisation that preaches peace and harmony...and we all should pledge to hold our heads high and declare to the world that we respect all other religions ,but no thanks...don't ever dare to buy our souls,our faiths...cuz we are proud of being a HINDU.


⭐️PJ⭐️

Originally posted by: Shambo

What religious conversion?

Majority of Indians do not even have a religion. Supreme court has stated that Hinduism is not a religion and does not recieve any state support either. Supreme Court has also stated Astrology to be a science, but still some people ridicule it. But actually....the Supreme Court is right. Hinduism is not a religion. It's a way of life. Thanks for pointing that out.😉 Besides, what have so called Hindus ever done for the poor? At least Hindus don't force people to convert into their religion by bribing.🤢 We have more dignity than that. And Hindus have done far more for the country than anyone else. Hinduism was the first religion in the entire world, and all people were originally only Hindus....all other religions came after that. Heck, Christianity is even newer than Islam. What right do Christians have to force others into their religions through disgusting methods when even the majority of Muslims don't do that? It's actually the Christian missionaries who are causing most of the problems in the world.

You should be grateful that Indians will become christian, richer, educated and more modern (western). Do you even know the meaning of "modern" which people use so freely these days? I'm sorry, but Christian missionaries are not "modern", they are actually very old-fashioned, because they still stick to barbaric ways to force people into their religion.

Originally posted by: _LalithaJanaki_

1. Oh yes, hinduism is a way of life. So is Hedonism with sex parties and what not. Doesn't make it a religion now does it. 😉

2. There were lots of old religions. But modern people are embracing Islam and Christianity in droves since they are progressive. All people originally Hindus? 😆The amusing thing is that Indians have no sense of preserving history, hence you cannot even prove basic like who designed the Taj Mahal but instead make outlandish statements about the world being Indian.😃

3. Hindus have dignity you say? You mean caste system, poverty, neglect, poor sanitation etc.?

4. If you look at the subcontinent (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc.), then 40% of the population is already Muslim or Christian. Fertility rate is highest among muslims and more people are converting. Those that do not convert have to leave, just look at Pakistan ,Kashmir and Bangladesh. 😉

5. A religion is given due respect if a state is its patron, it is fairly well off and it has the spine to fight back if pushed against the wall. Have 'hindus' fought for their rights in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Kashmir, Bombay etc? I think not. So, it's your own problem if you're being stepped on.

So yes, beat your chest and be proud of being a Hindu. 👏

Edited by Shambo - 16 years ago

Originally posted by: angie.4u

troll ...troll... karte pahunch hi gaye yahan tak 😆

Originally posted by: _LalithaJanaki_

That's not true. Hinduism is a very liberal religion. Anyone can become a Hindu as long as they embrace its scriptures and anyone can abandon it if they do not agree with the scriptures.