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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: atominis

These sites and accounts need to be banned IMO. They are only taking us further in stoneage and radicalising young boys against women. I also see lot of such language being used by Indian men also against women and anti women pages run by men.

A lot of them are also right wingers or hyper religious and obsessed with birth rates and TFR.

They see women as nothing more than breeding machines.

I feel we should mass report such accounts and also need to build greater pressure on apps like Youtube, Twitter, FB etc to stop misogyny or boycott such apps that fail to control abuse.

Facebook is notorious for worst regressive propaganda.

Agree. I am against unnecessary censorship when it’s against free speech. But it’s justified when users are spreading violence and hate against community. They should be reported and banned. I was so happy that asshole Andrew Tate was finally banned from all social sites. I don’t know why it took so long though. Users making hate posts against Jews, blacks, etc get removed so fast in the first few days or week of those users making such posts. But sadly misogyny isn’t taken as serious when it’s literally against 50% of world population who are majority vulnerable in most part of the world and cause so much abuse and murder for many. It took months for social media to ban him. FBI has listed incels as domestic terrorist group after there were attacks and they murdered women. But still so little is done because misogyny is so normalized and spread in all cultures, religions, etc so it’s taken lightly.

I used to be in Quora few years ago, and I was so shocked and surprised many men from India complaining about women and how they are treated so worse in India. It felt like I was in some alternate world when everyone knows culture and society in India is mostly for men and patriarchal like it’s in many other countries and cultures.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#22

You just say fcuk it and do your thing come what may.


Also, a word to the wise, limit your social media intake. You seem to be taking it pretty hard. The internet population is extra assholish than the real world. So you'd meet 10 misogynists to the 8 you'd come across IRL. Take care :)

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: The_Best

Agree. I am against unnecessary censorship when it’s against free speech. But it’s justified when users are spreading violence and hate against community. They should be reported and banned. I was so happy that asshole Andrew Tate was finally banned from all social sites.

Another dude everyone lookout for is Jordan Peterson he has a cult following. He recognizes incels as marginalised.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/article/jordan-peterson-cried-out-of-empathy-for-incels-the-same-community-invokes-fear-in-others/oaggnytxs

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Posted: 2 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: atominis

That is their hypocrisy. They mock women if women marry a man who earns more or is more educated or has higher social status while they themselves feel their fragile egos hurt and feel emasculated if they see a woman who earns more or has higher status or is more educated, independent, fearless and vocal.

Doglapan hai bas.

They see women as inferior or something to control or dominate or dictate. This is why they mock and infantilise women or insult their parents and instigate their parents also to bully girls and crush their self esteem and give threats or else no one will marry them.

Ha! As if women are dying to marry you.

Marriage is hyped by only men and glorified through movies and media. It has nothing for women.

Ironically women are held responsible for raising kids but men do not allow them to take decisions for kids either. Even kids suffer due to dominating, violent men. Later mom is blamed for all problems though it is man and in laws who do not let mother raise kids the way she wants.

Word to your post!

I’m a mother of 6 yo son and I hardly have a say on raising my son. All decisions are taken by in-laws as they’ve raised him as free nanny while I worked in IT Co in these 7 years of my marriage.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: The_Best

I am fed up with misogyny in real world and online. It’s been making me sad and angry for the past few months ever since Roe vs wade was overturned and seeing so many misogynists posts and celebrations for it. After experiencing hellish years in Pakistan, I felt a bit comfortable and secured after getting to US thinking women have some rights here and I will be fine here. But recently I have realized how many misogynist men and internalized misogynist women exist here too. The main thing stopping them are the laws but even that’s changing now.

Recently I was banned from group because I disagreed with the misogyny there. That group wasn’t even about some social issue. It was about finances and that what I had joined for. But I didn’t know much that the group had mostly Christian fanatics who believe feminism is Illuminati conspiracy and is an evil ideology destroying families, and Trump is sent as a messenger to save US until Roe vs Wade was overturned and so many were celebrating and saying shit about women who do abortion and have sex. How they will get karma for lifetimes to do abortion. Another member in the group would keep posting Alpha man posts, feminism is evil, Andrew Tate is great, Taliban are good to women, etc. I started to get into fights with him and asked the group and moderator why all this was allowed only to be met by how feminism is actually started by NWO and how I am brainwashed to not know this. How I am crazy, emotional and need a boyfriend to chill. The group was ran by a woman and she didn’t do anything against such posts and said to ignore. But the guy kept making such posts and would get support by some men and women there. The group also had a lot of Trump, Putin, etc supporters and would make fun of democrats and liberals all the time. In the end the misogyny lead to fights between that guy and me and she decided to ban us both. She liked his posts about feminism is destroying families and it was started by NWO. Also told me him saying I need a boyfriend to not be angry and chill is just a joke and why I am taking it serious. I wondered why she’s even running a business if feminism is so bad because before feminism movement women in America couldn’t even vote, get education, own property, work and run a business, have bank account, etc.

Now Andrew Tate whom I actually first found about from this group has converted to Islam and many misogynists men are welcoming him saying all his sins are forgiven while bashing and mocking any muslim woman bothered by his sexual trafficking, rape, and misogyny when muslim women are judged if they just show hair by the same men in the community. He has found a new target audience among misogynist religious men. I am tired with this world where everywhere misogyny is enforced by cultures, religions, and people. How do other women here deal with misogyny and what should I do and how to deal with as it’s making feel not well mentally and emotionally?


One would DECIPHER from this lengthy post the passion in the VALIED COMPLAINTS. One would also be obliged to AVOID SENSITIVE SCHISMS in a mainly INDIA-CENTRIC FORUM. Therefore it is highly recommended ... TO VOTE in the upcoming MIDTERMS. (Peace & Love) 🥺

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Posted: 2 years ago
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As a man, I want every woman who shared her experience in this topic to know that I read everything that you wrote.


My life experience is very different from yours, as I was born and educated in Canada, where women's and girls' participation and achievement in all areas are expected. My country is not perfect, and I try to be aware of systemic discrimination against women, such as the cost of female-only products, medical standards based on men being applied to women inappropriately, disproportionate job loss by women during the pandemic, prohibitively difficult access to birth control and abortion ...


Ideas shape policies. Ideas are powerful, and I am willing to speak out against misogynistic ideas everywhere, in real life and online, even if I get ostracized for it. I value my responsibility to speak more than my access to any platform.


In my first week on India Forums, I pointed out to a female author that in her fan fiction, it wasn't justice that a teenager got slapped for getting an abortion and not admitting it while the heroine got accused of it, and it was not romantic that the hero assured the heroine that he knows she didn't have the abortion because "she would die before letting any man touch her." Even a teenager has the right to autonomy and privacy in her sexual/reproductive life, and no woman should be made to feel that her sexual purity is worth more than her life.


Of course, I was ridiculed for taking fiction seriously. Since then, I've been reprimanded for directly telling authors that their stories contain something racist, misogynistic, or abilitist. I've never used rude language or gotten personal, but I feel strongly that if harmful attitudes reach dozens of readers through fiction, including members like yourselves who have been victimized by those attitudes in real life, my expression of opposition to those attitudes and solidarity with victims of oppression should be equally visible.


No matter how many women may think that it's "hot" for a man to slip a woman a drug, kiss her in her sleep, and fantasize about sex without her consent, or to restrain a woman and rub himself on her while she protests but feels aroused ... I will use my voice to say that it's not hot. It's misogynistic, even if the author is female. It shouldn't be promoted on a "family friendly" site. Members who have dealt with this in real life shouldn't have to read it as someone's romantic fantasy in fiction.


How my imagination and sense of justice respond to fiction is the reason I joined India Forums, and I don't take my membership more seriously than attitudes shared through fiction that harm real people in the real world.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#28

Do you watch this serial?

This show propagates forced marriage and tries to justify it saying it’s god’s will 😡🤢

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Swetha-Sai

Do you watch this serial?

This show propagates forced marriage and tries to justify it saying it’s god’s will 😡🤢

A fitting Satire, and all the more a reason for HER TO GIVE HIM A TIGHT SLAP 😃

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Swetha-Sai

Do you watch this serial?

This show propagates forced marriage and tries to justify it saying it’s god’s will 😡🤢

I don't watch this serial, but your comment reminded me of a topic I started a few months ago.


Favourite passages for each character from Mahābhārata was meant to appreciate how the text sounds in the original language. I was surprised to get lengthy replies from a very vocal "feminist" female member who called Karṇa a sex trafficker based on Śalya's comment that selling one's own wives and sons happens in Aṅga (Karṇaparvan 30.83), but when I pointed out that Kṛṣṇa said, "Arjuna, kidnap my pretty sister; who knows what she would do in svayaṃvara," (Ādiparvan 211.23) this member retorted that Kṛṣṇa did nothing wrong because he just wanted his sister to have a good husband!


This experience was a reminder that while everyone can pay lip service to noble principles, it takes courage to examine one's idols and friends - whether divine or fictional or in real life - and admit that they have done wrong. To bring about real change in the world, we have to hold everyone accountable, including those who are nearest and dearest to us.

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