Tired of debating? Have a break... have a Chit Chat - Page 15

Originally posted by: Arwen.

Muslim born and bred 😊

@bold ... That's besides the point... I just am tired of our defensive response to Muslim terrorists that they are not Muslims...
If we cant even acknowledge to ourselves that they are Muslims, how on earth will we begin the process of dealing with this menace?

I'm just tired Muslims deluding themselves that ISIL (and Al Qaeda and the rest of them) have nothing to do with us

I agree with you .. but I can never agree with what others say that because ISIS might be muslims, all the muslims would support them... If they have the rights to say that, then I can say that ISIS are not muslims because they are not like us!... -.-

Honestly I don't know why we are even debating about this.

Originally posted by: THEfanOFheartz

Honestly I don't know why we are even debating about this.

Like yes, Isis say they are Muslim they read the Quran, but their actions show they are so uneducated because; they go against the Quran and kill.

Watch this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_416398949&feature=iv&src_vid=rYedKXpb5mo&v=dxelJ6ADGes

- Terrorists do not know Islam; this video express my view point I want to make!

Like he said in the video: it's not fair to judge Islam for the actions of "some" Muslims.

Also I agree Arwen, no human being even me has no right to judge whose Muslim and whose a Non Muslim cuz Allah knows best!

End off!

I was listening to speech of an Imaan talking about Isis I would advice everyone to watch it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYedKXpb5mo

Isis- the enemy of Islam; I totally agree with this video and what it says about it!

@ Heinsburg I have to say you know how to debate and know how to clearly get a point across, even if the information is false however the things you say sometimes can be offensive so please learn to control that mouth of yours.

@Hindu4fly the point you made " in the hope of making others see sense" what's that suppose to mean?

Sense yeaah.. a guy who claims to know many stuff but doesn't.

Like what he said before 90% don't read the Quran like where did he even get his statics from?

I'm sure everyone whose Muslim bad and good I can say for certain have opened the Quran at some point in their life!

Also we all sin in different ways, I agree Arwen many Muslims sad as it may sound smoke, and do many bad things but this is to everyone Islam is perfect just like any other religion is.

We can debate all night about this but what's the point of this? It only brings hate

This brings me back to point what Heinsburg said.

How can 1.6 billion Muslims people support Isis? We do condemn the acts of what Isis does but we can't always come out and say we condemn the attacks after every single attack that happens when all Muslims CONDEMN IT!! We don't need to prove the fact because that's the truth 98% Muslims are against these attacks ISIS or any other organizations does!

That's like saying after every police brutality that Police need to come out and say time and time again we condemn the acts. When tbh they are against it . I mean to be honest I'm sure any human being who has a heart would be against Police brutality, or any sort of attacks.

So for someone to say every Muslims support the attacks of Isis needs a brain check end off!

ISLAM condemns terrorism!!

I a Muslim girl condemn these acts of ISIS but that doesn't mean after every attack i have to prove I do.

ISIS(+ any other organisations) attacks Muslims and Non Muslims so idk why we would support them?

We are human beings too so for Heinsburg to say "religion of peace strikes again" is something rude to say.

Every religion is perfect but the people who practice it aren't.

So refrain from saying such things again Heinsburg.

End of discussion.

OMG! Thank you soo much for posting the youtube video link... it was soo touchy...

and aww this Comment!! Soo sweet


I have seen the video and read the comments and I feel like being in paradise.. 😳 soo many people saying soo good words about islam...😳 it was too good...

Thanks Maddy, it's 01:14am here and you made my day dear! 😳❤️ May Islam groves more and more soonish inshallah❤️

Originally posted by: StrawberryParam

OMG! Thank you soo much for posting the youtube video link... it was soo touchy...

and aww this Comment!! Soo sweet


I have seen the video and read the comments and I feel like being in paradise.. 😳 soo many people saying soo good words about islam...😳 it was too good...

Thanks Maddy, it's 01:14am here and you made my day dear! 😳❤️ May Islam groves more and more soonish inshallah❤️

It's okay! Aww ik it was i had to just post it! Awww i saw thattt!! 😭

Originally posted by: THEfanOFheartz

It's okay! Aww ik it was i had to just post it! Awww i saw thattt!! 😭

Tell me about it 😆 Oh realllyy huh? Ahaa well anything for you ayee 😆 Wait? Don't I make ur day everyday wifeey😈 😆

Yeah InshaAllah btw get ur arse on MSM 😆 otherwise m gonna raid ur INBOX 😆😆

Uhmm..😲 wait.. lemme post a big reply here and then will come.😛 Intezaar Karo😛🤣

Originally posted by: StrawberryParam

Uhmm..😲 wait.. lemme post a big reply here and then will come.😛 Intezaar Karo😛🤣

Loool ur gonna write a essay here too 🤣 wasn't mine enough?🤢 🤣 K babes M waiting there come quick wifeeeyy!😉 🤣

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

But that doesn't mean you can say all Packer fans are unruly. Most Packer fans just enjoy football with a passion, they don't harm anyone.

In Chicago, some people were beaten up for nothing more than wearing a Packer jersey. That's not right. Why can't I wear my Packer jersey freely and be treated like any other fan!

True. And no one is actually saying *all* Packer fans are unruly. It is possible that Packer fans and Packer fans sympathizers are inferring that the the rest of the football nation is saying that all Packer fans are unruly. The rest of the nation is simply saying that Packer fans are unruly based on a pattern of beatings they are dishing to fans of other teams.

Beating up a Packer fan minding his/her own business is a big no-no. But if in general, Packer fans are not well liked, or if people have their own prejudices against Packer fans, Packer fans have to introspect.

BTW, this thread is moving faster than Salman Khan at an accident scene.

So, I am back again. Surprised? No? 😳 Ok. 😒😆

So, coming to the Topic again. The Video what @THEfanOFheartz posted above, was everything what I wanted to say! But yeah, if you don't want to watch the Video, here I will quote!

He says :

The Prophet (S.A.W.) said: At the end of the time... there will be young men... they are young in age... they have empty intellects... Faith will not go past their throats! they will read the Quran but beyond their throats! In other words... --- they will not understand it! ---

So, you find some non-muslims pick up the Quran and they say this Quran preaches terrorism...
NO! The Quran is furthest away from Terrorism! But they have not understood the Quran...
The Quran have verses of History where history is recorded! They translate it as though.. they are commands for me and you!

ISLAM IS FULL OF PEACE! AND ALL OF US NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT! So, we must not fall in the trap! We need to learn from the Verses of history!

There are people in the world of Islam who do act in a manner that is against Islam, which you can label as a terrorism. No doubt in my mind! I know it.. you know it!!
BUT IT IS NOT FAIR TO JUDGE ISLAM for the act of *some* Muslims.

But let me tell you in Terms of teachings:
We believe that there is war, because you have the rights to defend yourself! Otherwise, if defending yourself was a crime then I call on to all the countries in the world to throw their weapons in the Ocean. But they won't. They have Army.. Marine.. Navy.. Why? BECAUSE SOMEONE MAY ATTACK US! And we have to be ready to defend our soil, our land, our honor, our whatever!

Okay, and Islam is what? Islam is a Nation like any other Nation and we have equal rights.

But tell me a Nation, which says to the people:

• Do not kill Women
• Do not kill Children
• Do not kill Elderly
• Do not kill Worshippers

Whatever religion, he's in church, he's in temple... whatever he may be.. don't approach them.

• Do not burn a Tree
• Do not destroy a House
• Do not kill an Animal
• Do not betray!

Which Nation on earth applies these in their warfare? N O N E ! ! !

And the Prophet (S.A.W.) said: The believer will remain within the margings of his religion unless he spills blood illegally!

Once he kills one innocent soul, he will be held responsible by Allah and it may be the reason.. he will enter the hellfire!

Very well said by the man. 👏

@So, Heisenberg! Do you have anything to say again against to this?

Not again, here is a letter penned by a Muslim to his fellow Moderate Muslims about terrorists and their links with Islam . It's not just us, but many many moderate Muslims who are also sick and tired of apologist attitude.

Turkey- A Moderate ,thriving society reduced to shambles , what a shame. Thats the problem you need to make democracy a success in these parts to establish normalcy. if Coup is successful, you will have a dictator and if it fails you would still have a Dictator.