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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: xsumi



I'd just like to point out to you that the person who killed 84 innocent loving people
Ate pork, drank alcohol, took drugs, had sex when not married and abused his ex wife' his cousin stated he is not a Muslim but a sl*g


Anyone can be born a Muslim but what makes u a real practising Muslim is if u follow the rules which without a doubt he didn't

Eating pork, doing drugs, drinking alcohol, sex before marriage, abusing a women, killing people... All fully against Islam and a major sin





Whoever is an adherent of Islam based on Quran is a Muslim.

Looks like you are saying there are devout Muslims and non-devout Muslims. We don't have too many details regarding the latest killings but in the recent Bangladesh attack, the gunmen were shouting "Allahu Akbar", and tortured hostages who couldn't recite Quran. You may say they are not Muslims but to the world, they were Muslims killing non-Muslims. There are no two ways about that.


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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: K.Universe.




Whoever is an adherent of Islam based on Quran is a Muslim.

Looks like you are saying there are devout Muslims and non-devout Muslims. We don't have too many details regarding the latest killings but in the recent Bangladesh attack, the gunmen were shouting "Allahu Akbar", and tortured hostages who couldn't recite Quran. You may say they are not Muslims but to the world, they were Muslims killing non-Muslims. There are no two ways about that.




Bangladesh... A country full of Muslims. Those people killed Muslim aswell in Bangladesh
So called Muslim terrorist killing Muslims. These people kill Muslims aswell, may God forbid they can kill me too. They don't give too shits what religion you come from, they kill who they want which is so sad
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: xsumi



I'd just like to point out to you that the person who killed 84 innocent loving people
Ate pork, drank alcohol, took drugs, had sex when not married and abused his ex wife' his cousin stated he is not a Muslim but a sl*g


Anyone can be born a Muslim but what makes u a real practising Muslim is if u follow the rules which without a doubt he didn't

Eating pork, doing drugs, drinking alcohol, sex before marriage, abusing a women, killing people... All fully against Islam and a major sin

I just thought I'd let You know but knowing from your previous post I know you don't give a shit but I'd thought I'd let you know some real facts

P.s: my prayers go to all the people who have lost their precious lives and to all who have been affected by this tragedy. RIP ❤️



Notice how you were preoccupied mostly with defending Islam and who is a Muslim and who is not, whilst the bolded part came last, hence proving my point.

The thing which you either don't understand or aren't aware of, is that doing Jihad and dying as martyr wipes out all of your bad deeds, and is the only sure shot way of getting into heaven in Islam.

And by your logic, most Muslims aren't Muslims either, as most Muslims do things against Islam on a daily basis, forget that, over 90% of Muslims have never even read the Quran.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: xsumi



Bangladesh... A country full of Muslims. Those people killed Muslim aswell in Bangladesh
So called Muslim terrorist killing Muslims. These people kill Muslims aswell, may God forbid they can kill me too. They don't give too shits what religion you come from, they kill who they want which is so sad



Terrorism aside, your take that whoever kills is not a Muslim is incorrect. Both Sunnis and Shias are Muslims but they differ on Hadith which is why there is so much sectarian violence (translation: killings) and tension in the Middle east. If you go by ISIL, all Shias are infidels. According to you, whoever kills is an infidel. According to everyone else outside of this "circle", whoever is a follower of Islam based on Quran is a Muslim. Infidels notwithstanding, that is the "accepted" definition. Maybe we should classify them as theists, atheists, agnostics and ignostics then.

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: xsumi



Bangladesh... A country full of Muslims. Those people killed Muslim aswell in Bangladesh
So called Muslim terrorist killing Muslims. These people kill Muslims aswell, may God forbid they can kill me too. They don't give too shits what religion you come from, they kill who they want which is so sad



The Bangaladeshi terrorists were specifically targetting non-Muslims, and those Muslims who defended non-Muslims are considered hypocrites.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Heisenberg17.



Notice how you were preoccupied mostly with defending Islam and who is a Muslim and who is not, whilst the bolded part came last, hence proving my point.





In xsumi's defense, Muslims are not obligated to condemn the attacks and/or offer prayers to those who lost their lives. Since your post started with the "religion of peace" comment, it's possible xsumi defended that religion first.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Heisenberg17.



Notice how you were preoccupied mostly with defending Islam and who is a Muslim and who is not, whilst the bolded part came last, hence proving my point.

The thing which you either don't understand or aren't aware of, is that doing Jihad and dying as martyr wipes out all of your bad deeds, and is the only sure shot way of getting into heaven in Islam.

And by your logic, most Muslims aren't Muslims either, as most Muslims do things against Islam on a daily basis, forget that, over 90% of Muslims have never even read the Quran.



Well I was just stating my point of view
I never knew it was disrespectful to post my consoles last, never knew it had to be my first top message. India forums aside, you don't know what I post behind close doors, when I woke up and heard of the attack the first thing I did was pray for the people and posted my consoles to everyone.

90% have never read the Quran, lmaooo so only 10% read the Quran.
I could say the same for Christians, Jews, Hindus that only 10% do but clearly it's not the case and not for Muslims Aswell


Please can you give me the evidence that 90% Muslims don't read the Quran 🤣 🤣
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Heisenberg17.



The Bangaladeshi terrorists were specifically targetting non-Muslims, and those Muslims who defended non-Muslims are considered hypocrites.



Well on the news, Muslims died Aswell. Ofcourse they will kill Muslims, it's not like they give a f**k
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: K.Universe.





In xsumi's defense, Muslims are not obligated to condemn the attacks and/or offer prayers to those who lost their lives. Since your post started with the "religion of peace" comment, it's possible xsumi defended that religion first.



In that case don't say anything at all, people get killed, and your first concern is defending Islam, it's just adding more insult to injury.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: K.Universe.





In xsumi's defense, Muslims are not obligated to condemn the attacks and/or offer prayers to those who lost their lives. Since your post started with the "religion of peace" comment, it's possible xsumi defended that religion first.



Muslims have every right to console their prayers to people who have lost their lives and that is what I did, I have a right to have sympathy for these people,
My heart is not made of stone, I do have a soft spot for people who lose their lives daily due to vile people who kill for no reason
But at the same time I have a right to stand up for my religion, everyone would stand up for their religion.

Just because I believe Isis are not Muslims, doesn't mean I'm defending my religion first and not carrying for people who are getting killed.
I care about people getting killed because Muslim and non Muslims are being killed by Isis

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