Documentary Nirbhaya India's Daughter - UPDATE Admins reply pg29 - Page 6

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I don't give two hoots about that right wing apologist site Niti Central!

Always biased and always trying to reduce every issue to some sinister anti Hindu agenda!

Address the issue instead of blaming media or yelping about religion and politics.

Sarcasm is the best way to make men realise their mistakes.We can atleast hope that this unapologetic behaviour of the rapists wil act as a mirror in the face of all those people..and I hope they get scared looking at the monster staring back at them..

LOL at women considering Sita as ideal! 😆

Not all consider Sita ideal.

And villages are worse than urban areas. Violence there goes unreported and is accepted as fate.

The writer of the crap article loses it when he/she blames feminists. What have feminists got to do with this issue? Blame everyone except the perpetrators!

Women going out whether to study, work or for outing have every right to do so. It is not feminism. To bark that if she is out, she is bound to get raped is BS.

Yeah Sikhs, Christians, Muslims etc also rape. So? Rape is wrong irrespective of the rapist's background!

BTW how does the writer know that minor in this case was Muslim? Did he meet him? Does this author not know that name of juvenile is never revealed because it is the law?
He accuses others but is himself making communal conspiracy theories.

Even if juvenile was Muslim then also it doesn't change the fact that his adult accomplices were irresponsible and they were all bad influence for each other. They committed a grave crime.

Originally posted by: Piranhas

the documentary does not shame india. but even if it does is it really wrong? we indians should be ashamed and india as a country is at fault. we encourage this type of rape mentality in our country. and yes we do have a culture of rape. we opress our woman in every form, right from when she is born to when she grows up and gets married.

when something good happens don't we all feel proud for our country, proud to be indians when india wins international matches against pakistan?

then why should not we feel collective shame when something like this happens?

Its good that india is being shamed internationally because of this documentary. we deserve this. nirbayas rape happened because we as a society have been allowing men to get away with this type of behaviour for centuries.

Look at our scriptures. in Ramayana, it is Sita who gives the agni pariksha to prove her purity even though she was not at fault. In Mahabarata Draupadi is gambled away by her husband and shamed in front of her entire family by her own brother in laws. indian culture is very disrespectful towards woman from the beginning. but we indians like to keep up a face of being very self respecting and showing the world what a great culture we have.

the first mark of a great culture is that the woman is respected and treated with honor. Is that the case with India?

Glad that our hypocracy was called out by the BBC documentary. Now Modi will have no face to show when he goes around telling the world what a great nation we are.

People like the rapist mukesh singh are not hte exception they are the rule in india. most indian men think like mukesh singh. Only difference is that not all men get the chance to rape. but if they did they would not hold themself back. this is especially true of men from North India.

also woman geeting raped is because many woman in india have thinking like the rapists mothers and wife. they feel that its okay if the man does something like that. unless it happens to them.

Originally posted by: atominis

I have always noticed that government tries to control media coverage on this case and always tries to ban TV episodes or documentaries on this.

I think they are too scared. There is a lot of fear. AY said last year "What can I do?". As soon as they are questioned or someone tries to put the responsibility on them. They shake it off.

They can't handle the pressure. They rarely take the initiative to change anything. The population is getting out of hand, but there is not much done about it. Rural areas are the worse they have no proper education or programs that can teach them anything. There is not much long term thinking.

Even today the government can take the initiative to introduce programs to rural areas, where the little kids, and mother are both taught. Maybe teach the mother how to raise the kid, and the importance of education. Teach the little kids different things (perhaps introduce them to new hobbies) channel their energy and mind in a different direction. There is so much that they can do. They won't reap the benefits immediately, but perhaps twenty to thirty years from now if they did this in every village things would slowly start to change.

Originally posted by: RockChicGirl

Havent seen the documentary and dont want to defend anyone...but the impression I got from people's reactions is that the lawyers dont even know proper English. Its possible that they thought they will have to put on the 'blame the victim' mode for their client? Lots of back and forth are happening about the intentions of the documentary maker and the way she went about it. Dont know what they were told...though ofcourse the mentality remains the same even if things were manipulated.

Ramayan and Mahabharat are not to blame. Ravana and Duryodhan, Dushasan were condemned by all and got death. They lost their lives, families and kingdoms due to their misdeeds.

People twist and use examples of Sita and Draupadi but forget that those who violated them got great punishment and didn't get excused or walk scot free.

Misogyny and discrimination are a global issue. Not culture or religion specific. Almost all scriptures and texts in past wrote some sort of trash on women, children, youth and other castes, races etc.

High time we stopped looking at issues from communal or regional angle.

It is a blunder to play blame games and compare who is worse than whom, instead of directly finding solutions.

Onus is on self control and self regulation. Stop blaming everything under the sun and not taking personal responsibility.

Originally posted by: blue-ice

Nah...it wasn't the English...what they said...their mindset...their views towards the victim and the women in general were very very clear...I just hope that on womens' day...the women drag these lawyers out by their hair ...beat them up and tell them that there is no place for men like them in India🤢🤢

I expected no less from the rapist...it was expected that a person who raped and then brutally killed the girl would not be a saint and would be an animal...but these lawyers appalled me...I really really hope that people do dharna in front of their houses and beat them with chappals🤢🤢

😆 His mother and his wife should throw him out of the house.

Our culture (bc he started it) is so powerful that if women made up them their mind not to have a baby all these idiots wouldn't be born, so much for their "in our culture women have no place".

Originally posted by: firework

😆 His mother and his wife should throw him out of the house.

Our culture is so powerful that if women made up them their mind not to have a baby all these idiots wouldn't be born, so much for their "in our culture women have no place".

Originally posted by: PandorasBox

After having watched the documentary in its entirety, I can conclude that all the hoopla about banning it in India is unfounded. The victim's parents are interviewed and it okay with it being released. The mentality of these rapists do not end with just the rapists. There is a vein that gives life to their mindset that is embedded much deeper in society. Just listening to the defense lawyer (who is supposed to uphold the law of the nation) speak in such derogatory fashion speaks volume. Sure the rapists have a right to a fair trial, however the lawyer has no right to pass such comments on the character of the rape victim or how girls and women should behave. The blame should be on the rapists and the rapists alone. What the lawyer can defend is his client's involvement in the rape but not if rape is justified - that is not debatable. What the lawyer is insinuating is taking away basic human rights from females because they are not adhering to his vision of Indian culture which he says is "best". He has no authority to makes those remarks. It is not about freedom of speech but rather about him taking away human rights. His thoughts are much more scarier and is just a symptom of a huge issue.

I can also safely say that I believe that some members of the government want it to be banned because they do not want it to go public. They do not want their "reputation" or izzat tarnished globally. In doing so, they are trying to cover up something that clearly needs to come out in the open. We need to protect human rights of the neglected half of the population. That begins with a dialog. No one should feel shamed to speak of sexual assault or rape, it is not their shame but rather the rapist's/molester alone. It is not just about education but a shift in mentality that is required.

I like many other was sitting on the fence thinking maybe it will hurt the sentiments of many and that the documentary might just be sensation created to gain publicity. However, after watching it, I cannot say it is further from the truth.