Documentary Nirbhaya India's Daughter - UPDATE Admins reply pg29 - Page 57

Originally posted by: iMini

@NimbuMirchi
Loved the aggression in your post.Sometimes when assertiveness doesn't help..aggression is the only tool left.

Days are not far when we might need to say..
'I am an indian and not a rapist'..to get a job or study abroad.

It was only now that Bar Council took action against lawyer for misconduct.

Only now that language used in legal provision and their misuse, misinterpretation was debatedby legal experts.

Therefore I support NDTV for bringing the panel even if they could not air the documentary.

Fact is that these things will be banned because we don't want to take things more seriously.
We do not want to focus on things that lead to such incidents. Many articles are there that have correctly analysed the documentary and highlighted points from it on social, economic, psychological factors that are at root of such problems. It is just a template.

But only some sections are using it for agenda. I condemn them all be it in India or abroad. (Those who used it as an excuse to bash Indians are also crap because the docu nowhere generalises all Indians as rapists!)

Finally, okay, you fear for response so do not show it on TV. But atleast online it should be available. Total ban is not right.

Please see articles posted on previous pages. Many such cases of India have been highlighted where convict was interviewed, matters were covered even when case was sub judice.

I am surprised how hate speeches of sadhvis asking people to hit peoppe of some other community with stones, are being allowed whereas this documentary got banned!

Tackle the problem. Instead of blocking news and media coverage on it. Ultimately they even want to stopnreports and news on rape. Infact any issue you talk of - you get bashed for spoiling image of India!

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Rape rate vs. Reported rape rate are different statistics.

Definition of rape is also a factor to keep in mind. Some jurisdictions deem sexual favors and coercion in the workplace as rape. Other jurisdictions just treat it as sexual harassment. Marital rape, non penetrative rape, foreign object rape are all treated differently in different jurisdictions. Many do not recognize marital rape or non penile rape.

Social perception of rape is also a factor to keep in mind. Date rape reports are virtually non South Asia and south east Asia, not because they don't take place but because the perception is that the girl is at fault for putting herself in such a situation.

Laws about prostitution are also a factor to keep in mind. Prostitutes are unlikely to report rape and abuse if prostitutes are deemed as criminals. However, if laws deem pimps and criminals prostitutes are more likely to report rape.

Access to data is another factor. The rape rate in certain war torn African regions is abysmally low when it is a well known fact that rape is rampant. People are too afraid to report and humanitarian help has difficulty in access.

100% Right.
PS: We can make a new topic over this too..

Originally posted by: atominis

It was only now that Bar Council took action against lawyer for misconduct.

Only now that language used in legal provision and their misuse, misinterpretation was debatedby legal experts.

Therefore I support NDTV for bringing the panel even if they could not air the documentary.

Fact is that these things will be banned because we don't want to take things more seriously.
We do not want to focus on things that lead to such incidents. Many articles are there that have correctly analysed the documentary and highlighted points from it on social, economic, psychological factors that are at root of such problems. It is just a template.

But only some sections are using it for agenda. I condemn them all be it in India or abroad. (Those who used it as an excuse to bash Indians are also crap because the docu nowhere generalises all Indians as rapists!)

Finally, okay, you fear for response so do not show it on TV. But atleast online it should be available. Total ban is not right.

Please see articles posted on previous pages. Many such cases of India have been highlighted where convict was interviewed, matters were covered even when case was sub judice.

I am surprised how hate speeches of sadhvis asking people to hit peoppe of some other community with stones, are being allowed whereas this documentary got banned!

Tackle the problem. Instead of blocking news and media coverage on it. Ultimately they even want to stopnreports and news on rape. Infact any issue you talk of - you get bashed for spoiling image of India!

action was taken only now because a complaint was filed only now.

Originally posted by: KochurShaakBata

Same here! Who are these bunch of people not even selected on the basis of credibility (like suspended censor board CEO Rakesh Kumar) to say what is correct and what is not for the country and it's people? Ratings will always be a better option than censoring the electronic media.

@Bold- and most importantly, if the Govt is straightaway banning the documentary, how will we form an opinion of the documentary and come to know whether it is maligning the country or not? Let people watch it and form their own opinion and THEN criticize. I have been discussing this issue with some of my friends who claim that the documentary is trying to malign the image of the country and then say, 'isliye maine toh link kholke bhi nahin dekha'!

Originally posted by: iMini

Days are not far when we might need to say..
'I am an indian and not a rapist'..to get a job or study abroad.

One racist case made you talk like this. It is the racist prof's fault. Not our fault that we discuss our issue.

What about constant labelling and shaming that rape victims and their families go through? Is that fair? When it came to men, how incensed everyone got for image!

It is a fallacy that media focuses only on rapes in India. I follow almost all major international media outlets. Rapes and other crimes are reported from every country. It is an issue everywhere.

FYI
it was after much investigation that the government decided to ban it.
The govt. had no problem with the convict being interviewed, else they wouldn't even give the permission for doing so in first place.
It's the final documentary which is questionable.

Originally posted by: iMini

well..I've never heard anyone around me saying the girl shouldn't fight back..rather I've heard people saying the girl should prefer death over getting raped.
It hurts to see that convict who can be hanged anytime (for murder,not rape)getting this much attention.

A former lady member of NCW had said during Nirbhaya caae that she should not have fought back. And said they would not have taken out her intestines had she not fought back.

A woman's rights lawyer Flavia Agnes had said women should avoid fighting back in case rape is inevitable. Asaram bapu also said the same. CBI director even said if you cannot escape rape then enjoy it.

Regarding convict, it is not the first time a comvict on death row was interviewed. It happened many times in past also in India itself.