Is a higher birthrate the solution? - Page 3

Originally posted by: epiphany.

I don't think it is a problem. Demographically, the problem isn't that Muslims are outnumbering Hindus, it is that Indians are outnumbering the estimated number of microbes on the planet. Or have we already crossed that milestone? I am sorry, I checked and I cannot seem to solve the exponents and stuff. 😳

Since I don't think of it as a problem, I cannot think of any solution.

There is a need for the entire population, by and large to be controlled. Honestly, only religious fanatics can give a shit about their numbers going down with respect to another religion. Because I am sure as hell, that a normal Hindu will find a bunch of Hindus with whom to co-exist even if their numbers go down. There will never actually be a dearth of people belonging to one ethnicity (unless already a minority), not really.

You dont see it as a problem because you havent tried to think of the possible consequences of a minority community overtaking the majority in a democratic country.Think of the political, social, cultural changes that can be expected to occur in India.

Originally posted by: epiphany.

Well, it ain't happening anytime in the near future. There are several other immediate threats to our country. So, I am sorry if I can't see the point behind this 'problem'.

Originally posted by: zorrro

Quite a short sighted approach 😛

What several immediate threats do you see for our country? Genuinely curious 😊

Originally posted by: souro

Since the current problem is borne out of a desire to protect Hindus and Hinduism, I'd say there will be opposition to such a development as well. Opposition to Christian proselytising has even happened in some instances.

Originally posted by: epiphany.

That people are poor is a threat, that women are unsafe both inside and outside their houses is a threat, that terrorism is imminent is a threat. Yesterday, I read the news that over 100 dead bodies have been recovered from River Ganges. In a country where crime is at large and vandalism doesn't even need a definite reason to happen anymore, the rise in the population of Muslims is the last thing that I see as a threat to our country. Souro and Hades have explained why it is a threat, and well, this is kinda of why there's several other things I'd rather worry about, if hypothetically speaking, I were to worry about this stuff and fix it.

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

But, hypothetically speaking, if it were to happen (it being India turning into a Muslim-majority country) I perceive a threat to a) Democracy b) Economy c) Religious freedom of minorities d) Women.

I could elaborate more if anyone is interested in a debate / discussion along those lines.

Originally posted by: QuietlyLoud

There might be opposition but not as much.I think people tend to judge whole Muslims in the light of what's happening in the middle east.Hence asked.

I don't think Hindus are in a state that needs protection,anyway.Muslims and other minorities may be increasing,but that doesn't mean Hindu population is going to become extinct unless Hindu children stop being born altogether which is not going to happen.Still 80% of population are Hindus and even if they only have a single child each,matter of extinction in the foreseeable future is out of question.

IMO enmity with Pakistan and the religious terrorism in the middle-east play a substantial role in people's concern over increasing Muslim population.If Muslims become majority, they fear an easy terrorist influx due to sharing borders with countries like Pakistan.They fear India becoming another politically unstable country where minorities are crushed and Sharia law is imposed.They fear losing Kashmir to Pakistan and the list goes on.

I consider Indian Muslims in a different league from their Middle east counter parts. I don't think they're blinded by faith.Then there are extremist people/groups ,of course. But again every religion has extremists so I won't judge the whole lot on the action of a few.I can't speak for the whole indian Muslim population but I don't find the Muslims of my region any different in their views and ideals from myself except for worshiping another God and reading another scripture.From what I've observed, similar environment and culture,same language and availability of resources and similar education levels wind people of a region together with similar ideals and morals better than religion.That's from my experience of being brought up in a mixed community with a large Muslim population.So If they indeed become majority,there could be significant socio-cultural changes but I don't think India is going to become a typical middle-east Muslim country.

However,having Islamic nations with many extremist groups as neighbours,I won't be very sure of this disposition,so this, is my best guess.

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

Easier to say that when you are from a democratic nation like US or India, where your rights are protected, you are not subjugated, and you enjoy the blanket of freedom guaranteed by your country's constitution.

Easier to say that when your country is not enforcing Sharia law on you, like most Muslim-majority countries do.

Originally posted by: zorrro

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Threat to economy- Not very sure about this one. It could go the Pakistan way or UAE way😕

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

That is why to me separation of church and state is more important than what the majority religion was, is and will be.

In that light, one thing India can do is start solidifying the separation of church and state. Abolish the various religious based acts and establish one pragmatic uniform civil code. If our democracy is made strong enough, religious shifts should not erode it.