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Posted: 11 years ago
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I've always been confused as to where egg falls. Some vegetarians eat eggs, some don't.

An egg until fertilized is not life. As such it is not meat/life. Most commercial eggs are unfertilized. Barring a few erroneous exceptions none will hatch. No life is killed in consuming an egg. So why is it non-vegetarian? I think egg is acceptable in a vegetarian diet, but unacceptable in a vegan diet.

That brings me to the conundrum of honey and yeast in vegan diets. Yes, honey is a bee product. But unlike milk it is not intrinsic to bees. Honey doesn't have bee DNA. But if vegans can wear pearls, why do they have a problem with honey? Yes, yeast is a living organism. But if vegans eat plants why do they have a problem with yeast?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: LadyDabangg

i'll speak in my case

i am a vegetarian since the past 4 years-no eggs,meat, even in cakes ,biscuits all

i tend to eat a lot -cause veg things digest more quickly as compared to meat products
i also eat a lot cause i exercise a lot, really a lot

occasionally i feel lack of energy then i drink some energy drink

i don't know,i feel happier being a vegetarian




Thanks for sharing your experience.

It is noted that vegetarianism in it's purest form is more nutritious as we tend to focus on the components of food. I think the lack of energy would go away once your body is fully acclimatized to the diet.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

I've always been confused as to where egg falls. Some vegetarians eat eggs, some don't.

Egg is ambiguous! It fits in well with everything.

An egg until fertilized is not life. As such it is not meat/life. Most commercial eggs are unfertilized. Barring a few erroneous exceptions none will hatch. No life is killed in consuming an egg. So why is it non-vegetarian? I think egg is acceptable in a vegetarian diet, but unacceptable in a vegan diet.

I don't think an unfertilized egg or free range eggs are termed non-veg. It is only when the egg is somewhat fertilized , do most taker it as non-veg. But it is difficult to mark them in neither category just like that. Vegan doesn't do diary in any form, they try to eat food in it's raw form.

That brings me to the conundrum of honey and yeast in vegan diets. Yes, honey is a bee product. But unlike milk it is not intrinsic to bees. Honey doesn't have bee DNA. But if vegans can wear pearls, why do they have a problem with honey? Yes, yeast is a living organism. But if vegans eat plants why do they have a problem with yeast?

Hmm I feel this paradox has less to do with eating habits more to do with life choices. Also it depends on the reasons one chooses a particular diet. Some go for vegan purely for the nutritive benefits, they are not emotionally, psychologically connected to the ideology , hence can wear pearls and walk the street. Really basically it comes down to the "why" behind your diet.


Be honest , you appreciate the irony behind this topic, especially about the person who started this😉😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Although you have explicitly prohibited religion, but I think the broader umbrella of culture, of which religion is also a part, determines dietary habits to the largest extent. And dietary habits in the culture ofcourse gets influenced by what is available more over there, vegetables, meat, fish, etc. If what is available more is not utilised then it's a waste of resources. So, if vegetables are available more, the diet should have lots of vegetables. If fish is available more, make use of that. And so on. If we don't eat the fish, doesn't mean that the fish will live forever and attain immortality. Same for other animals, so why not use the resources that are there. However, care should be taken not to overdo anything, so that the resources are not depleted or treated in a way where their welfare is not thought about.

Personally speaking, I've grown up in a culture where most people eat atleast one non-veg dish with every meal. And I'm also used to that. I just don't like it if a meal is an all veg affair, unless the veg dishes are absolutely my favourites. I've also a fascination to try out different kinds of meat. But that's purely a personal choice. It's a kind of adventure in it's own way you can say.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Kisi ne pahale muje bathaya dha ki,...Vegetarian an old Indian word meaning "bad hunter."..and about Egg, artificially incubated eggs.. dont produce the odor,...uspe blood stain n other things nahe hote...So possibly they can be considered vegetarian. ..😛...I feel,these days,people who are vegetarian are not really vegetarian,the whole world is non-vegetarian now...A balanced diet food is always good for health...😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am a vegetarian since birth, so Vegetarianism all the way🥳
I am striving towards Veganism now, thats my next ultimate aim!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Let everyone eat what they want to it
It's not like that anyone could decide for other that what they should eat.
Its the choice of every individual and they must be provided the liberty to be vegans or non vegans according to their choice
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Having experimenting with multiple type of diets, vegans and vegetarian diets lack plenty of nutrients. Of course there are sources, but omegas found in seeds and nuts is not even close to what you find in fatty fish. Same goes for Heme Iron, plant iron is so hard to absorb by most people.
Genetically modified food pose more health hazards than meat based diets.
Also plastic, tinned food( hazardous) are the real culprits that are used as containers to store water and food.
There is no pure protein food in vegetarian/vegan diets except may be soya. More and more people turning gluten and lactose intolerant which makes vegetarianism harder choice.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: princeofpersia



Its the choice of every individual and they must be provided the liberty to be vegans or non vegans according to their choice



what about the choice of animals? do they want to be eaten?

if the animals don't have a choice, because they are weaker, can humans kill other humans who are weaker and eat them?

if the animals don't have a choice, because they are not intelligent, can the intelligent humans kill other less intelligent humans and eat them?

i guess i am asking, what is the criteria that we are establishing to eat another being which at one time had life.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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what about the choice of animals? do they want to be eaten?
That is unfortunately not how our food chain works, I doubt a deer will want to be eaten by the lion or a leaf by the very same deer. " Survival of the fittest" working here?

if the animals don't have a choice, because they are weaker, can humans kill other humans who are weaker and eat them?
hmm this made me think of animals which feed on their own kind, not many . Again more of preference and eating pattern. But cannibalism especially in tribal areas is not an unknown eating habit .

if the animals don't have a choice, because they are not intelligent, can the intelligent humans kill other less intelligent humans and eat them?
Aren't they already?😆😉

i guess i am asking, what is the criteria that we are establishing to eat another being which at one time had life.
Criteria is more about- competency, eating habits, digestion and need.

@Mr K , once at some discussion regarding this , I was offered conservation of energy as a reason why eating meat makes sense.The assumption considered life and death as irrelevant and rather this facilitates reorganization of energy from one being to another.
I had few theories against it but does the above argument makes sense to you. Is it that clinical?

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