Where do you think we came from? - Page 104

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

True, we should define heap just as we should define consciousness.

Heap is an abstract concept. We can arrive at a consensus easily on what a heap is and later on adhere to that consensus. Unlike Heap, Consciousness is not an abstract concept, even though we don't have a rigorous definition of it. For instance, we know quality, we just can't quantify it in order for everyone to agree with it. Because, quality is subjective. What is quality music to you is not to me and vice-versa. In that sense, even though we "know" what is quality music, it is hard to come to a consensus unlike the case of heap which is just a plural.

Heap exists. We know what makes a heap, provided we agree to it first hand. You say 100 grains, I say 100 grains, it is 100 grains.

Quality exists. We don't know what gives rise to that. You say 10 million neurons and their synaptic connections in this, this and that area of the brain are giving rise to the mind, show me the proof. I say 20 million neurons and their synaptic connections in this, this and that area of the brain are giving rise to the mind, I need to show the proof.

(sorry, I didn't get the last question)

Originally posted by: -Aarya-

I was hypothetically referring to person suffering from epilepsy (neurological disorder), where a person brain may be split into two, does that mean they would have two consciousness (assuming that consciousness resides in the brain)?

Originally posted by: _Angie_

A corpus callosum ( thick bundle of nerve fibres connecting the two hemisphere of the brain) transection is resorted to in some intractable cases of generalised seizures in a bid to bring down the injuries caused due to sudden fall due to loss of consciousness in these cases. Cutting of this connecting bundle of nerve fibres reduces the spread of nerve impulses to the other half of brain thereby reducing the chance of a generalised seizure. It causes some defects in the visual field depending on the dominant half of brain and also some language devp skills in children.

But how does that lead to the querry about two consciousness ? The person continues to think of himself as one, just in case your reference was to a sense of identity .

Originally posted by: -Aarya-

Majority of us (and I hope it's true 😆) have healthy, intact brain, which basically interacts information quickly from right to the left hemisphere. But what happens when both of them can not communicate with each other? And I believe this is where split-brain (split-consciousness) experience comes into picture. So I had questioned does such scenarios exist, how does one experience such phenomenon.

Originally posted by: _Angie_

I did ask you to get your crystal ball tinkered ...😛 The locks are where theyve always been..within the vortices of energy that are strategically located along the endocrinal and neural plexuses around the spinal cord 😛 You need to jump into the fireball XL5 or any other transport mode and cruise along the pathway that goes through those tricky locks along muladhar, swadhisthan, manipur, anahaat, vishuddhi, agnya and sahasrara whirling frenzies that guard the destination to Moksha cell 😆

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

If I understand this correctly, you are saying that there can't be any consciousness absent motion? Hmm...

Thinking to myself here, was/is there any space/time in the known universe, where/when there was/is no motion? Everything we know came into being at infinitely hot and infinitely dense singularity. Infinitely hot indicates that whatever it was, it was in one crazry motion because without motion, there is no heat.

To be conscious, motion is necessary as otherwise signalling (electrochemical being one such) is not possible.

So, let's make it our own little rule: consciousness needs motion.

Now, we also mentioned earlier that motion needs a frame of reference. Ergo, consciousness needs a frame of reference.

We do know that there is no absolute frame of reference. So, consciousness too is relative. Which might explain the "elevated" forms such as humans and the no-so-elevated forms such as unicellular organisms or viruses (or heck even rocks)

But everything in the universe is considered to be in motion because of the lack of absolute motion concept.

So, is it a stretch to say that everything in the universe is conscious because there is motion and there exists signalling (as proven by entanglement) even though we are still not knowledgeable about how the said signalling is happening?

Just some random rambling at the end of a tough workday :)

Originally posted by: -Aarya-

Majority of us (and I hope it's true 😆) have healthy, intact brain, which basically interacts information quickly from right to the left hemisphere. But what happens when both of them can not communicate with each other? And I believe this is where split-brain (split-consciousness) experience comes into picture. So I had questioned does such scenarios exist, how does one experience such phenomenon.

Originally posted by: -Aarya-

https://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/planet-discovery/index.html

And there is hope for life elsewhere and maybe, just maybe it will give answers to our questions

Thought I share it here...

Originally posted by: Vintage.Wine

Hahaha ...😆 ...My crystal ball just refuses to leave your mind ..Yeah ...You don't want me to keep a tab on your evil activities ..Right ? ...So you would send those fake engineers who would tinker that to make it go cactus ...

Fake engineers? 😲 They were experts who knew exactly what they had to do 😆

Hahaha ..Of course I would embark on that journey a real soon ..😆 ..Just watch my launch carefully ...And make sure you get that front row SEAT that has Skull and Bones printed on that ...So it ll become easy for that ONE alien to identify and abduct you ..😆

The alien's insurance co is gonna rue that moment 😈

😆

@ Bold : Yeah ..I knew that address already ..'Twam muladharasthito si nityam ..Twam Bramhas twam Vishnus twam Rudras twam Indras ..Well Well ..I ll better stop right here ..😆 ...To sum it up ..It's the place where everything, all forces, energies ..become one ..😛

Vintu ...😛

Ah! The Ganesh atharvashirsha ! Yeah, I expected you to know that