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Posted: 19 years ago
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Is eve teasing only physical?

A couple of days back I had a huge debate with my husband and our friend. Both the guys were of the opinion that sniggering at unknown women, groups of guys passign comments loudly on women passing by was NOT eve teasing. Eve teasing was a much more serious offence where it almost gets physical. I was of course on the other side of the argument saying that the kind of tthings they were dismissing as minor , actually disturbed and offended women.

however would really appreciate all your thoughts.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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sorry waht is eve teasing??????????????
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Posted: 19 years ago
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I completely agree with you, mist. Anything that offends a woman can be considered eve-teasing, doesn't matter if it was physical or not. Sometimes vulgar/cheap remarks by ullu-**-****** sadak-chhap romeos can be more offending than say a physical contact.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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eve teasing is the teasing/abuse(physical as well as emotional)....Eve teasing is a euphemism used in India for sexual harassment or molestation of women by men. Considered a growing problem throughout the subcontinent, eve teasing ranges in severity from sexually coloured remarks to outright groping. Some guidebooks to the region warn female tourists that eve teasing may be avoided by wearing conservative clothing, though eve teasing is reported both by Indian women and by conservatively-dressed foreign women.

Various reasons are suggested for the prevalence of sexual harassment in India. Some feel that it is the direct consequence of the puritanical and sexually repressive society that has prevailed for centuries. Others insist that the influence of western media is the primary cause. Indian movies, especially those from Bollywood, have a mixed record on sensitivity towards women's issues. While some tend to be overly pedantic and take an extremely conservative tone on sexuality, others, especially those directed towards the youth, have been criticized for questionable attitudes regarding women.

In recent years the Indian government has made some efforts to round up eve teasers. The deployment of plainclothed policewomen for the purpose has been particularly effective. The death of a female student (Sarika Shah) in Chennai in 1998, caused by Eve teasing, brought some tough laws to counter this menace in South India. After this case, there has been about half-a-dozen reports of suicide that have been attributed to pressures caused by Eve Teasing. Many other cases go unreported for fear of reprisals and exposure to public shame. This is particularly important to understand, as Indian women are put under more stress by archaic rules concerning virginity and nobility. Therefore, long-term solutions are unlikely without fundamental changes in societal attitudes



EVE-TEASING IS a rampant social evil. It is all pervasive — beaches, roads, cinema halls, buses and sadly even in educational institutions. When eve-teasing persists even inside educational institutions, one can obviously infer that even the educated youth don't necessarily desist from indulging in this uncouth behaviour. The issue always surfaces when something prominent happens, like for instance when a Chennai college girl was killed some years ago. Knee-jerk reactions such as police patrols, 'white' brigade actions, etc., continue for a short time. Public memory happens to be short and soon things return to the usual anarchy and we accept the fact that 'nothing much can be done.'

Glorification in movies


Where does eve-teasing have its roots? Is this seen in every country? An interesting fact needs to be mentioned here. If one types 'eve-teasing' in any internet search engine, you would be surprised that page after page of results are almost entirely Indian web pages. Maybe, other countries refer to this more subtly under 'sexual harassment,' but a cursory survey among frequent travellers to other countries confirms that 'eve-teasing' in its form of hooting-ogling-loud commenting-whistling, etc., does tend to be more prevalent in India. Not something to be proud about. Eve-teasing is a crude way of garnering female attention. It is unnecessarily glorified by movies, although movie makers may argue that it is a classical 'chicken and egg' situation. One must admit that eve-teasing can most certainly be perpetuated easily by its continued glorification in movies.

Eve-teasing is not a victimless crime as it appears on paper. It has resulted in deaths, and when it goes unchecked could lead to public humiliation of women even in broad daylight. The rape of a medical student in Delhi in the recent past shocked the whole nation. Eve-teasing also portrays a bad image of the country among tourists. The immeasurable damage to a woman's self-esteem and the subsequent avoidance of public places by single women could hardly take us on the way to achieving gender equality.

Eve-teasing is a typical social crime, where the perpetrators and victims are ordinary people. There is no easy way of rounding up everyone concerned and settling the issue. Schools and colleges could easily discipline students for such activities on campus, but this only induces them to indulge in such acts outside campus. Police prosecution can also never be severe because of the reluctance of victims to depose in court. A behavioural change is the only lasting solution to this problem. This requires an extensive public education aimed at every section of society at large.

Every action is performed with an intention. The intention behind eve-teasing is: to catch a girl's eye and to arouse attention in some way; and more importantly this harassment is an early manifestation of patriarchal masculinity. Gender segregation and a 'boys will be boys' attitude furthers this behaviour. Innumerable movies show that eve-teasing eventually 'wins' a girl's attention. Changing this behaviour is easier said than done. However, if things are left alone, they could hardly get better. Active solutions should be sought. For starters, a massive sustained campaign by women's organisations highlighting this evil must be initiated. Students in colleges must specifically be counselled. Debates on this issue must be organised in colleges, TV shows, etc., with responsible moderators — who would listen and reason an argument instead of sounding outright biased. Every parent should talk to his son about this. Cinema is a powerful medium to showcase this issue. The majority of the eve-teasing crowds are undoubtedly movie junkies. Maybe when a movie addresses the fear, hurt and humiliation a girl experiences will people think about this 'other side' of eve-teasing.

Unwelcome attention


Eve-teasing is not just a college girl's problem. It leads to insecurity for parents or to even anyone who's loved one undergoes this. This unwelcome masculine attention on women subjects them to an unimaginable sexual pressure. Tucking this issue under the carpet is not a solution. A civilised society cannot afford to ignore such an issue. Eve-teasing deserves to be tackled actively. Eradicating eve-teasing will help women access public places fearlessly and will further gender equality in India — probably, much more than can be achieved by reservation of seats for women in Parliament

source:Hinduonline

I hope this helps mashal..I have alot to comment about this topic,...I'll post later 😊
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Women have landed on the moon. Reached for the stars and touched them. They have proved themselves equal to men in every way. Yet every 51 minutes a woman is sexually harassed. Every 21 minutes one woman is molested. Eve teasing is something that she has to contend with everyday.

Not long ago the deaths of Sarika Shah and Durga (both of them were victims of eve teasing) had shocked the citizens of Chennai. Police officials had gone on record saying that at least 3,000 cases of eve teasing were reported the same year.

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Since then the number has been on the rise. In Anna Nagar alone I get to hear of at least one such incident every week when I meet up with friends.

What is more surprising is that the victims vary from middle-aged women to school and college going girls. The same diverse age group is noticed among the eve teasers. Studies show that 32 per cent of the eve teasers are students, 35 per cent are anti socials while the remaining 33 per cent are middle-aged men.

A recent incident narrated by a friend revealed a new perspective of the problem. The girl who was disgusted by what had happened was not willing to discuss the incident with either her family or the police. Besides, when she ran after the offender looking around desperately for some help, she was met with many curious and enquiring stares. However, no one came forward to help. Another incident that was reported in one of the leading dailies of the city narrated the case of a girl being harassed in one of the MTC buses. The staff in the bus were only concerned about the possible damage that the rowdies could cause to the bus. This is the attitude despite the fact that if the bus crew did not drive the victim to the police station to file a complaint they were liable to a fine of rupees one thousand.

One may argue that women are far safer in Chennai than in other metros like Mumbai or Delhi and the police have taken several steps to keep the situation under control. Yet, the women of this city continue to be victimised by eve teasers. What exactly is the pay off that these eve teasers get? According to some, it is something they do "just for fun". Others have said, "women enjoy the attention and we enjoy watching their reactions". Yet others say that the aggressive expressions of love that one sees in the movies are the motivational force. However, according to some psychologists the root cause of eve teasing is the patriarchal mindset of the Indian male. They like to believe that they have power over the women. They thrive on the fact that even today a large number of women still prefer to ignore rather than to confront.

What do women have to say on the matter? Well, most women are of the opinion that they have to equip themselves to handle the situation efficiently. According to most learning, an art of self-defence is the best way. Hence, martial arts training centres have mushroomed in the city. Many times, it is found that women are blamed for becoming victims of eve teasers. "The woman must have asked for it" or "she is dressed to invite trouble. "It is important that our girls be brought up with enough self-esteem to deal with comments like this.

Another reason that keeps women from taking action is fear. They are afraid that this will breed further enmity, which will prove to be dangerous. Now the million-dollar question is will law alone be able to stop eve teasing? The answer is an absolute no. The only way it can be stopped is by encouraging women to retaliate against eve teasers fearlessly. This will only be possible when she gets wholehearted support from the community.

It's the same story every day. You step on the street in the morning and jump out of your skin as a car hurtles towards you and swerves just before smashing you to a pulp. The driver laughs evilly and you're still cursing him under your breath as you pass a group of men standing at the corner, who burst into 'choli ke peechey kya hai' almost on cue. You pretend not to hear and get into an autorickshaw. (Let me not even start about the horrors of traveling in a bus in India and the daily fight against being groped.) The rickshaw driver adjusts his rear view mirror to get a better look at you, and you sit with your files and bag clutched close to your chest as you avoid eye contact with him through the journey. Two men on a scooter peek into the autorickshaw, decide they like what they see and follow you around for a few minutes (depending, of course, on how 'lukkha' they are) staring lecherously and giggling excitedly till the autorickaw driver takes pity on you and waves them off. You reach office and as you're about to enter the gate, a cyclist comes out of nowhere, slaps you on your butt and cycles off.

Office is fine. You have some form of control over your surroundings and take revenge on the male sex by bossing your peon around. At the 6:30 p.m. show you get 'completely unintentionally' jostled and felt up. Well, what did you expect? You should have sat at home and watched it on VCD you bad, bad girl. As you exit the hall a ruffian whistles and another one passes a lewd remark. You reach home, dodge another speeding vehicle with its underage driver listening to ear-blasting music and hooting as he passes you. 'A***ole!' you mutter irritated, hurriedly enter the gate and bang it shut as loud as you can. Just another day.
So what's a woman to do? Many have resorted to carrying pins, pen-knives and even daggers as a deterrent. Others have taken self-defence classes and don't hesitate before landing a karate chop on the offender's shoulder blade.
Fight back This doesn't mean you have to sock your offender in the face - no matter how tempting it may be. But being too shy and reserved to speak up is just going to work against you. You've got to look your offender in the face and speak up as loud as you can. The crowd will automatically be on your side and you'll have the satisfaction of watching the ball of slime mumble a denial and slink away.
If you're being followed Nothing psyches your follower as much as this: Just walk up to him and start yelling at the top your voice, without letting him get a word in. Ask him for the name of his employer. Drop the 'You don't know who I am and who you're messing with' line. Tell him you're going to sic the police on his ass if he doesn't do the vanishing act. (Not recommended if you're talking to a 6 ft muscleman or to a group of hooligans, but a wimpy, skinny male will rue the day he crossed your path.) Walk in well-lit and frequented areas Don't walk through a dark, lonely street or you're only inviting trouble. In a well lit area you'll be able to see and avoid potential offenders.
Be street smart Don't daydream and don't look lost - even if you are. Look as if you know exactly where you are going.
Dress appropriately If you are going to spend the day in crowded areas, don't wear a mini skirt. True, women in salwar kameezes get harassed as well, but there's no need to call attention to yourself. Save your skimpy clothes for the nightclubs, when you're the one who's on a prowl!
Know thy enemy Is the guy across the street waiting for you to pass by? Does he look like he's out for some 'fun'? Is he huddled with other men and just hanging out, doing nothing in particular? Then it's best to...
Avoid potential harassers If you see a group of men hanging out, or a man who's making eye contact with you and trying to get your attention, take a detour. Better safe than sorry.
Travel with a male escort

Though this may not always be possible, try and work out some arrangement where you have a male escort. Eve-teasers by and large target women who are without a male escort. Of course, if they are very frustrated, even the presence of a man may not deter them – so better safe than sorry. Take the necessary precautions, drive with your cellphone handy, don't walk outdoors at night, and learn karate!

ahhhh, now that was quite a bit....😆

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Ok i have not read all of buffie has posted, but I think it would have covered everything 😉

however, it just reminds me of this discussion i had wiht my coworker who works in HR dept. she was saying that if two plp at work are just talking about someone or anything sexual and someone just passes by and hear their conversation they can file a suit against those guys as sexually offended. Anything that makes that coworkder uncomfy or offended byt thier comment even if there is nothing to do with him/her it can be taken to court. i know this is not exactly related, but i think that anything that offends women is eve teasing. I agree with you mist.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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A lot of women dont mind an appreciaive whistle or glance from a male and that is why guys actually think they can score by eve teasing. The worst types of teasing occurs when groups of guys focus on a lone girls. In this case impressing the girl is secondary but the primary motive is impressing their peers and trying to parade their albeit non-existant machismo. And its not just when it gets physical that its insulting,some words and comments are far worse...
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Thanks for all your views. Its a relief knowing I am probably not as crazy as others think I am
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Posted: 19 years ago
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It is a terrible thing and worst part is that it is not considered as a major offense , even if they are captured..it is easy for them to get out and then be more harsh on girls instead of learning a lesson to respect all.
I saw on tv the other day that due to family enimity the guy raped a one yr girl of the family 😡 and was still out in open due to his contacts 😡 . People like them should be shot with no chance of going to court. But if even eve teasing is considered a seriuos crime and proper puniishment is given then probably these sick people will hesitate and may be this will happen one day
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: Swar_Raj

It is a terrible thing and worst part is that it is not considered as a major offense , even if they are captured..it is easy for them to get out and then be more harsh on girls instead of learning a lesson to respect all.
I saw on tv the other day that due to family enimity the guy raped a one yr girl of the family 😡 and was still out in open due to his contacts 😡 . People like them should be shot with no chance of going to court. But if even eve teasing is considered a seriuos crime and proper puniishment is given then probably these sick people will hesitate and may be this will happen one day



You are right..But what about those heinous acid throwing incidents. Some guys cant take rejection so they promptly decide to wreck the girls life anyway..and the best part is while the girl is destined to a life of misery the culprit usually gets away with a slap on the wrist.

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