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Posted: 13 years ago
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Since a few people tend to believe that this topic is just some women's club for women to emotionally vent their opinions on rape, some facts and data.

http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/jhamlin/3925/myths.html (Myths about rape, published by University of Minnesota Duluth).

Namely some that stand out


Myth: Women incite men to rape.
Fact: Research has found that the vast majority of rapes are planned. Rape is the responsibility of the rapist alone. Women, children and men of every age, physical type and demeanor are raped. Opportunity is the most important factor determining when a given rapist will rape.


Myth: Only "bad" women get raped.
Fact: No other crime victim is looked upon with the degree of suspicion and doubt as a victim of rape. Although there are numerous reasons why society has cast blame on the victims of rape, a major reason found in studies is that of a feeling of self protection. If one believes that the victim was responsible because she put herself in an unsafe position, such as being out late at night, drinking alcohol, dressing in a certain way, or "leading on" the rapist, then we are able to feel safer because "we wouldn't do those things." But, the basic fact remains that without consent, no means no, no matter what the situation or circumstances.

Myth: Rape only occurs outside and at night.
Fact: Rape can and does occur anytime and anyplace. Many rapes occur during the day and in the victims' homes.

Myth: Sexual assault is an impulsive, spontaneous act.
Fact: Most rapes are carefully planned by the rapist. A rapist will rape again and again, usually in the same area of town and in the same way.

Myth: Sexual assault usually occurs between strangers.
Fact: By some estimates, over 70% of rape victims know their attackers. The rapist may be a relative, friend, co-worker, date or other acquaintance.

Myth: Rape only happens to young attractive women.
Fact: Rape can and does strike anyone at anytime. Age, social class, ethnic group and has no bearing on the person a rapist chooses to attack. Research data clearly proves that a way a woman dresses and / or acts does not influence the rapists choice of victims. His decision to rape is based on how easily he perceives his target can be intimidated. Rapists are looking for available and vulnerable targets. Statistics were obtained from various sources including the study Rape in America, 1992, National Victim Center, The Federal Bureau of Investigations and the National Crime Survey.

Myth: Rape is a crime of passion.
Fact: Rape is an act of VIOLENCE, not passion. it is an attempt to hurt and humiliate, using sex as the weapon.

Myth: Most rapes occur as a "spur of the moment" act in a dark alley by a stranger.
Fact: Rape often occurs in one's home - be it apartment, house or dormitory. Very often the rapist is known by the victim in some way and the rape is carefully planned.

Myth: Most rapists only rape one time.
FACT: Most rapists rape again, and again, and again - until caught.

Myth: Only certain kinds of people get raped. It cannot happen to me.
FACT: Rapists act without considering their victim's physical appearance, dress, age, race, gender, or social status. Assailants seek out victims who they perceive to be vulnerable. The Orange County Rape Crisis Center has worked with victims from infancy to ninety-two years of age and from all racial and socioeconomic backgrounds.

Myth: Rape is an impulsive, uncontrollable act of sexual gratification. Most rape are spontaneous acts of passion where the assailant cannot control him/herself.
FACT: Rape is a premeditated act of violence, not a spontaneous act of passion. 71% of rapes are planned in advance. 60% of convicted rapists were married or had regular sexual partners at the time of the assault. Men can control their sexual impulses. The vast majority of rapists are motivated by power, anger, and control, not sexual gratification.

Myth: Most rapes occur when people are out alone at night. If people stay at home, then they will be safer.
FACT: 44% of rapes reported to the Orange County Rape Crisis Center in 1991 occurred in the victim's home.

Myth: Rapists are strangers. If people avoid strangers, then they will not be raped.
FACT: In 60% of the rapes reported to the Orange County Rape Crisis Center in 1991, the rapist was known to the victim. 7% of the assailants were family members of the victim. These statistics reflect only reported rapes. Assaults by assailants the victim knows are often not reported so the statistics do not reflect the actual numbers of acquaintance rapes.

Myth: If the assailant, victim, or both are drunk, the assailant cannot be charged with rape.
FACT: Forcing sex on someone who is too drunk to give consent is second degree rape in North Carolina. [It carries a prison sentence of up to 17 years.] Rape is a crime. People who commit crimes while under the influence of alcohol or drugs are not considered free from guilt.

Myth: Most rapes occur on the street, by strangers, or by a few crazy men.
FACT: Over 50% of reported rapes occur in the home. 80% of sexual assaults reported by college age women and adult women were perpetrated by close friends or family members. There is no common profile of a rapist. Rapes are committed by people from all economic levels, all races, all occupations. A rapist can be your doctor, your boss, your clergyman, your superintendent, your partner, your lover, your friend or your date.

Myth: Women "ask for it" by their dress or actions.
FACT: Rapists look for victims they perceive as vulnerable, not women who dress in a particular way. Assuming that women provoke attacks by where they are or the way they dress is victim-blaming. No person, whatever their behaviour, "deserves" to be raped.

Myth: Women who are drunk are willing to engage in any kind of sexual activity.
FACT: The fact that a woman has been drinking does not imply consent. Alcohol and drugs can render a woman incapable of consent.

Myth: Only young, pretty women are assaulted.
FACT: Survivors range in age from infancy to old age, and their appearance is seldom a consideration. Assailants often choose victims who seem most vulnerable to attack: old persons, children, physically or emotionally disabled persons, substance abusers and street persons. Men are also attacked.



The fact is
- a woman's short skirt, tight jeans, low cleavage does not lead to rape
- smoking, drinking or partying does not lead to rape
- active sexual lifestyle does not lead to rape

Dressing modestly, avoiding going out at night, not having a social life, not dating is NOT going to reduce your risk of rape. If you think prudish behavior reduces risk then you are seriously misinforming yourself and others, and putting them at risk.

The only way to reduce risk is be informed, be smart, be practical. Get prevention information from reliable sources. Usually common sense goes a long way, like not accepting drinks from strangers, being aware of surrounding, traveling in groups.
http://www.rainn.org/get-information/sexual-assault-prevention
http://www.rainn.org/get-information

If someone you know is raped DO NOT ever tell them that they could have prevented it or partly caused it. Victims will have a tendency to blame themselves. Don't ever let a friend feel convince themselves that they deserved it because they wore a short dress, drank too much, or went out too late.

http://www.rainn.org/get-help/help-a-loved-one



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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ King Anu

I disagree with everything you said, but what really got to me was that 'Miss' prefix before all our names. I acknowledge that you have your set of views, the BMW and other comparisons notwithstanding (me, I personally prefer Bentleys), but for some reason I pictured you cowering while you were typing that.

Que pasa? I dunno about the others, but I don't bite... not all the time anyway 😆 So to cut my crap short, you can just call me taco or what have you. And no, I didn't 'like' most of the posts here because they were made by girls, I did so because I agreed with them. Anyhoo, I'll make an exception and... *likes your post* 😊

In keeping with the gender confusion mood, I don't get why TheUltimate is being mistaken for a lass. I've always been bang on when it comes to determining a poster's sex. On a tangent, I'm also bang on when it comes to identifying attention wh**es. You know, the cymbal banging monkey toys who behave like they're on a Prozac-Adderall binge.

*scoots*
Edited by Omnipotent_Taco - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#73
Answer this question.

"There is a married woman and her husband works long nights and doesn't return until the early morning. When her husband is away, the wife gets dressed up and goes to an island where she has affairs with random men. When these men get too close to her, like if they want to take their affair to the next level, she purposely gets in fights with them. Then she takes the ferry back home before her husband arrives. She's also really drunk.

So one night she does her usual routine. She goes to the island, has sex with a guy and then acts like a jerk so they can break up. As she is on her way back to the ferry she realizes she doesn't have enough money to get back home. She needs to get home soon before her husband comes back. She asks the ferry captain to let her go on for free. She promises the next time she comes she'll pay double the fare. But the ferry captain tells her no.

The wife goes back to the guy she just broke up with. She's really desperate. But of course they just got in a fight and he refuses to give her any money. She goes to a guy she was with last week, but he is still pretty pissed off and he won't give her any money either.

She really has no option other than to walk home over the bridge. It's really dark at night and she doesn't want to walk home alone. But she takes the chance…and she is raped and killed by a group of thugs.

Who's to blame for the wife being raped?

-the husband
-the wife
-the ferry captain
-ex number one
-ex number two
-the thugs"

The Answer: http://thefbomb.org/2011/03/what-is-rape-culture/



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Posted: 13 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: TheDilettante

Answer this question.


"There is a married woman and her husband works long nights and doesn't return until the early morning. When her husband is away, the wife gets dressed up and goes to an island where she has affairs with random men. When these men get too close to her, like if they want to take their affair to the next level, she purposely gets in fights with them. Then she takes the ferry back home before her husband arrives. She's also really drunk.

So one night she does her usual routine. She goes to the island, has sex with a guy and then acts like a jerk so they can break up. As she is on her way back to the ferry she realizes she doesn't have enough money to get back home. She needs to get home soon before her husband comes back. She asks the ferry captain to let her go on for free. She promises the next time she comes she'll pay double the fare. But the ferry captain tells her no.

The wife goes back to the guy she just broke up with. She's really desperate. But of course they just got in a fight and he refuses to give her any money. She goes to a guy she was with last week, but he is still pretty pissed off and he won't give her any money either.

She really has no option other than to walk home over the bridge. It's really dark at night and she doesn't want to walk home alone. But she takes the chance'and she is raped and killed by a group of thugs.

Who's to blame for the wife being raped?

-the husband
-the wife
-the ferry captain
-ex number one
-ex number two
-the thugs"

The Answer: http://thefbomb.org/2011/03/what-is-rape-culture/



This should be an eye opener for some😛...Thanks TD..
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Posted: 13 years ago
#75
RANDOM FACT: Having eye contact for more than 20 seconds without looking away or blinking reveals a desire for either sex or rape or murder.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: blue-ice

This should be an eye opener for some😛...Thanks TD..


Or it might cause something akin to a Rashomon effect.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: TheDilettante

Answer this question.


"There is a married woman and her husband works long nights and doesn't return until the early morning. When her husband is away, the wife gets dressed up and goes to an island where she has affairs with random men. When these men get too close to her, like if they want to take their affair to the next level, she purposely gets in fights with them. Then she takes the ferry back home before her husband arrives. She's also really drunk.

So one night she does her usual routine. She goes to the island, has sex with a guy and then acts like a jerk so they can break up. As she is on her way back to the ferry she realizes she doesn't have enough money to get back home. She needs to get home soon before her husband comes back. She asks the ferry captain to let her go on for free. She promises the next time she comes she'll pay double the fare. But the ferry captain tells her no.

The wife goes back to the guy she just broke up with. She's really desperate. But of course they just got in a fight and he refuses to give her any money. She goes to a guy she was with last week, but he is still pretty pissed off and he won't give her any money either.

She really has no option other than to walk home over the bridge. It's really dark at night and she doesn't want to walk home alone. But she takes the chance'and she is raped and killed by a group of thugs.

Who's to blame for the wife being raped?

-the husband
-the wife
-the ferry captain
-ex number one
-ex number two
-the thugs"





Dilltitties!! How did you end up on DM?😛

Thanks for sharing the article. Hopefully, people read and think about it.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sir/Madam,

I write to complain about the abysmal standards of modesty I am noticing in Indian society. All bad things--sensationalist TV, obscene movies, diabetes among elders, pickpocketing, dilution of coconut chutney in Saravana Bhavan--are a result of Evil Western Influences. However, to my surprise, in this issue of modesty, even the Great Indian Culture (we had invented Maths and pineapple rasam when westerners were still cavemen) seems to encourage this.

The problem, sir/madam, is that revealing attire is being worn. Deep-neck and sleeveless tops, exposed legs--and these are just the middle-aged priests! Some priests are even (Shiva Shiva!) doing away with the upper garment. And I am told some temple managements even encourage this.

But this is the worst thing. They are doing this in front of ladies and Gods, with no shame at all. Just the other day, I saw a priest without upper garments making an offering to God (which itself is shameful) and then coming out just like that to give prasadam to the ladies. The whole sanctity of the ceremony is spoilt. Plus, what evils may result if they speak to the ladies like that.

You have to worry about a society in which boys and men are allowed to dress this way.

The few who wear full dhoti and kurta are wearing some thin muslin material through which you can clearly see the outline of their underwear and banians and sometimes even read the name of the manufacturer. This is made worse because some young boys are following new fashions and wearing printed underwear in gaudy colours (Karmam Karmam).

Some more modest young people are wearing full pant with shirt and that is much better. However, this Evil Western Invention called zip is encouraging them to answer nature's call at the side of the road in full view of the public.

And what is this abomination called shorts? Is it really necessary that Indian boys need to play sports in which they have to show their legs? I think they can just stick to games like chess and cricket (it's not like they are doing well in other sports anyway). And swimming is another problem. We have a long tradition of bathing with clothes, why should they wear little Speedos just for this? I think it is just an excuse to show off their bodies.

But really, I would like to know what the parents of such boys are doing. Why are they not bringing up their sons correctly? Maybe all this is because of this trend of working fathers, who are neglecting their children for the sake of their careers. My biggest worry is that these boys and men will not be able to get married if they continue like this. Which mother-in-law would like to visit her daughter only to be given coffee by a son-in-law wearing a banian exposing his underarm hair? (And that too, Bru coffee since boys are not taught these days how to make good coffee.)

All this immodesty will also lead to other issues. Once boys realise it is alright to expose, you don't know where it will end. Boys will be out of control.

I propose that we start imposing dress codes on Indian boys and men straight away. A good strategy is to stereotype and call them names based on the way they dress. And also, any time a boy or man is sexually assaulted, we should completely forget about the attacker and instead ask questions like "Ah, but what was he wearing?"

This is the only way we can safeguard our society.


http://www.facebook.com/notes/suchi-govindarajan/modesty-of-dress-and-indian-culture/332041396847781
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Here is a real life story of how friendship, money and love all get entangled and charges of molest occur.
She let me hug her

HE courted her for more than two years, and offered to help her pay off a study loan of more than $48,000. He even once confessed his love for her.

He claims that he then hugged her with her consent.

But their friendship has gone sour after she accused him of allegedly molesting her on a trip to South Korea last October.

The man is giving his side of the story following a report in The New Paper yesterday.

Amy (not her real name) a graduate student, had recounted the incident on her personal blog.

She had asked Jim (not his real name), 34, an engineer, to accompany her to Seoul to settle an accident claim because none of her female friends could make the trip.

Amy, 24, claimed she had booked a hotel room with two separate beds, but because of a reservation error, they were asked to move to a room with a double bed after one night.

She alleged that on the last night of the trip, she was asleep when she felt something rubbing against her buttocks.

She has since made a police report in Korea about the incident.

Yesterday, Jim told The New Paper they had been friends for more than three years, since they were colleagues at an IT firm in 2004.

He said: 'In early 2005, I asked her out for the first time. From then on, we saw each other frequently for the next two years or so.'

He said he would ask her out regularly, often for meals and movies. At one point, he saw her almost daily.

'We wouldn't necessarily go out each time. Sometimes I would just pick her up from work,' he recalled.

'It was clear to her that I was interested. When we went out, she would sometimes let me hold her waist or put my arm around her shoulder.'

However, Amy said Jim tried doing this at group gatherings, but she would shrug off his advances each time.

She said he had asked her to be his girlfriend several times but she rejected him because their 'personalities did not match'.

Early in their friendship, he said he offered to lend Amy $48,000 to repay a study loan. Although she was 'apprehensive about it at first', she accepted his offer.

When asked, she confirmed this, but claimed that the money was a gift from him. She claimed that she had told him upfront that there was a possibility she would not be able to repay the loan.

'He told me not to worry about it,' she said.

But Jim said that after the Seoul trip, he fell out with her and wanted his money back.

He was only able to communicate with her through a mutual friend.

'I told her, through her friend, that I wanted my money back. She said she was agreeable to that,' he said.

At the time, he was holding another job as a financial planner and had sold several policies to Amy.

ANGRY

Soon after they returned from Korea, Amy wrote in to terminate the policies because he had allegedly outraged her modesty.

'I was very angry,' said Jim, who then sent a letter through his lawyers to demand the money back.

She replied, also through a lawyer, that the money was a gift from him.

Jim's lawyer then sent a second letter saying the money was a loan, and not a gift.

Amy told The New Paper she understood the money was a gift because Jim had not asked for it to be returned until the Seoul incident.

Before the trip, she had been planning to buy a small car. She asked Jim to accompany her to a car showroom because he was knowledgeable about cars.

She said: 'Jim knew about my intention to buy a car. If the money was supposed to be a loan, he would have insisted I pay him back right away.'

He said that she had given him mixed signals on whether she was interested in him.

'In May last year, I went for a motivational course to learn how to open up. After the course, I told Amy one night that I loved her,' he said.

He claimed he asked her whether he could give her a hug, and she agreed.

Amy claims to have no recollection of the incident. She said that she had always made it clear to him that she regarded him only as a friend.

'I believe he knew this. Whenever we were out at gatherings and people asked if I was his girlfriend, he would reply no,' she said.

He said he did not push her for a reply after he revealed his feelings for her and did not hear from her for months.

He said he was surprised when she asked him to go to Seoul with her because they hadn't spoken in a while. He asked her why she had asked him along instead of a female friend.

'She told me her friends couldn't make it, and that she needed a companion because the airfare would be cheaper if two people went,' he said. He agreed to go because 'I needed a break because I had been very busy at work'.

He added: 'And, of course, I was still interested in her.'

He declined to comment on what happened during the trip because his lawyers have advised him not to talk about it.

Jim said he was unaware of Amy's accusations because he seldom reads blogs. He learnt of it only when a friend e-mailed the blog entry to him last Sunday.

He said: 'After that first e-mail, more of my friends and colleagues began telling me about it because they recognised my name on her blog.'

He said he had not contacted Amy about her allegations, but added: 'This has affected me. I haven't been able to stay focused at work.'

He said Amy was the first woman he has pursued in nearly a decade.

The last time he had a girlfriend was during his school days.

Of his courtship, he said: 'I had been waiting for her for more than two years.'

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