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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: chatbuster

oh, its the same einstein all right, one who held a pacifist view as of 1931 and another who advocated nukes in 1939 to prez roosevelt.😆 same nobel prize winner guy, but which of his opposite opinions do we take to the bank?😉 If one got the nobel prize one you take.. he never advocated nukes.. he just suggested his theory.. which led to the nuke.. so if you show me a saying advocating use of nukes like i quoted one then may be you can get to go the bank.. right now you are just hung-up with change u need to think bigger than that...😆

tell me seriously, there are a lot of people in india, some of them even your "thinking west" types 😉, who dont adhere to gandhism. are they all belligerent, idiotic, not necesarily but one thing is sure their thinking is limited...needing some kinda religious brahmin thread (as u put it)? that's debating qwerty-style? wat happened, u dont practise Gandhism or wat? 😛 😆

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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

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The above is going to make more sense to the readers and you both after some time!!! 🤢

are u apologizing again?😆

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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

are u apologizing again?😆



are u dreaming ? 😉
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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT



are u dreaming ? 😉

no why.. just asking a simple question.. answer should be yes or no.. 😆

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Posted: 18 years ago

oh, you are welcome. one of the numerous sources confirming his 1939 activism is the American Museum of Natural History web-site. sorry, that may not be the nobel organization, but it's the next best thing, no? 😛anyways, here's an excerpt:

The atrocities of Nazi Germany began well before the first shots of World War II were fired in 1939. Adolf Hitler became chancellor of Germany in 1933, and five weeks later, the Nazis established their first concentration camp. In 1935, the Nazis issued the Nuremberg Laws: "racial purity" laws that stripped German Jews of their citizenship. Violence broke out in November 1938, when Nazis destroyed Jewish businesses, homes, hospitals and synagogues, killed nearly 100 and arrested some 30,000 Jewish men in what came to be known as Kristallnacht. By 1939, 300,000 Jewish refugees had fled Nazi controlled territories. By the war's end in 1945, six million Jews and millions of other victims had died in the Holocaust.

Einstein learned of the tragic events unfolding in his former country from his new home in the United States. Only a decade earlier, he had argued passionately against war. But now Einstein recognized that war was the only option.

THE STRUGGLE TO DEFEAT HITLER
A Call for Action

The rise of Nazism in Germany during the 1930s—and the conviction that Hitler could be defeated only by military force—prompted Einstein rethink his strict pacifist views. Increasing numbers of Jewish refugees were fleeing Germany, bringing with them horrific tales of Nazi persecution; Einstein, who was also Jewish, left for the United States in 1932.

When three refugee physicists confided to Einstein that the Nazis might be developing a new weapon—an atomic bomb—he decided to act. Despite his previous appeals for governments to dispense with the weapons of war, Einstein wrote to President Franklin Roosevelt in 1939 alerting him to "a new phenomenon [that] would...lead to the construction of bombs" and suggested that the United States accelerate its atomic weapons research program. Scholars debate the effect of this letter. Einstein signed it in 1939 and the Manhattan Project, the U.S. effort to build the bomb, began in 1941.

Source- http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/einstein/peace/ww2.php

there are other sources i found earlier which were even clearer. still lemme know if u need more before we make that trip to the bank😉😆

Edited by chatbuster - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: chatbuster

oh, you are welcome. one of the numerous sources confirming his 1939 activism is the American Museum of Natural History web-site. sorry, that may not be the nobel organization, but it's the next best thing, no? 😛anyways, here's an excerpt:

The atrocities of Nazi Germany began well before the first shots of World War II were fired in 1939. Adolf Hitler became chancellor of Germany in 1933, and five weeks later, the Nazis established their first concentration camp. In 1935, the Nazis issued the Nuremberg Laws: "racial purity" laws that stripped German Jews of their citizenship. Violence broke out in November 1938, when Nazis destroyed Jewish businesses, homes, hospitals and synagogues, killed nearly 100 and arrested some 30,000 Jewish men in what came to be known as Kristallnacht. By 1939, 300,000 Jewish refugees had fled Nazi controlled territories. By the war's end in 1945, six million Jews and millions of other victims had died in the Holocaust.

Einstein learned of the tragic events unfolding in his former country from his new home in the United States. Only a decade earlier, he had argued passionately against war. But now Einstein recognized that war was the only option.

THE STRUGGLE TO DEFEAT HITLER
A Call for Action

The rise of Nazism in Germany during the 1930s—and the conviction that Hitler could be defeated only by military force—prompted Einstein rethink his strict pacifist views. Increasing numbers of Jewish refugees were fleeing Germany, bringing with them horrific tales of Nazi persecution; Einstein, who was also Jewish, left for the United States in 1932.

When three refugee physicists confided to Einstein that the Nazis might be developing a new weapon—an atomic bomb—he decided to act. Despite his previous appeals for governments to dispense with the weapons of war, Einstein wrote to President Franklin Roosevelt in 1939 alerting him to "a new phenomenon [that] would...lead to the construction of bombs" and suggested that the United States accelerate its atomic weapons research program. Scholars debate the effect of this letter. Einstein signed it in 1939 and the Manhattan Project, the U.S. effort to build the bomb, began in 1941.

Source- http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/einstein/peace/ww2.php

there are other sources i found earlier which were even clearer. still lemme know if u need more before we make that trip to the bank😉😆

didnt u find anything better than AMERICAN museum.. Find something more credible.. America is known to distort facts....drastically. the british and bbc are more reliable..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4440000/newsid_4446 000/4446071.stm

In 1939, under the encouragement of Szilrd, Einstein sent a letter to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt urging the study of nuclear fission for military purposes, under fears that the Nazi government would be first to develop nuclear weapons. Roosevelt started a small investigation into the matter which eventually became the massive Manhattan Project. Einstein did not work on the bomb project, and, according to Linus Pauling, he later regretted having signed this letter.[33]

The International Rescue Committee was founded in 1933 at the request of Albert Einstein to assist opponents of Adolf Hitler.

Edited by qwertyesque - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

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The above is going to make more sense to the readers and you both after some time!!! 🤢

haha, lawyers regularly try to prevent certain pieces of evidence from coming before the court, on grounds that they are irrelevant and not helpful to the case. but once madam QT says the evidence has to be admitted and the opposition tries to use it, then what option but to evaluate/ discredit that evidence? hope that made some sense 😊

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Posted: 18 years ago
Rahul, everything makes sense as long as I am kept out of these LONG threads.. i don;t need my tail fins getting stuck..
😆 😆

Qwerty, the yes/ no answer u want is a NO.. i don;t apologize for nothing. some people mean it when they apologize.. some just throw apologies around to repeat mistakes.. 😉 I am the former.
Edited by mermaid_QT - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

didnt u find anything better than AMERICAN museum.. Find something more credible.. America is known to distort facts....drastically. the british and bbc are more reliable..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4440000/newsid_4446 000/4446071.stm

In 1939, under the encouragement of Szilrd, Einstein sent a letter to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt urging the study of nuclear fission for military purposes, under fears that the Nazi government would be first to develop nuclear weapons. Roosevelt started a small investigation into the matter which eventually became the massive Manhattan Project. Einstein did not work on the bomb project, and, according to Linus Pauling, he later regretted having signed this letter.[33]

The International Rescue Committee was founded in 1933 at the request of Albert Einstein to assist opponents of Adolf Hitler.

haha, even taking your source for now, so einstein was under the influence or wat? hmmm, "radical clean thinker" he was, he couldn't think for himself before he dashed a letter to the President of the United States? it's not like he was sending a love note to the girl next day because of some tempestuous rash infatuation😆 And this was about something as momentous as war and peace!!!

and the American Museum distorts? so shld we chuck out all sources West of the Atlantic that are not convenient?😆

Edited by chatbuster - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
1. i think India's independece was a result of Gandhiji's methods, even though i am a bigger Bhagat Singh supporter

2. Yes India's indpendence would have come faster if Congress used Bhagat Singh's methods. Gandhiji delayed the independence like 20 years or something.

3. Yes Gandhiji could have saved Bhagat Singh, but the thing is Bhagat Singh had made his mind to die for his country.

Bhagat Singh's methods were better
dont ever beg from the Brits
you should take your independence
Its our country and we are asking them politely to free us 😕 we should have owned them

also Legend of Bhagat Singh was the first dvd that i bought 😆

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