why is communism wrong? - Page 6

Originally posted by: Believe

<FONT color=#0066ff size=2 face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Before am into these thinking later I found socialism, communism, and all that rubbish....If our own problems are not enough, we start thinking about humanity and the world and the future...we start thinking abt it as if the whole world depends on your advice. Thenwe think, 'What is going to happen in Israel? What is going to happen in Afgan and pakistan?....And we go on advising, andwe create problems..... People become very excited, they cannot sleep becos there is some war going on...actuly we <FONT color=#0066ff face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">human ego needs some problems</FONT>😉</FONT>

That's called awareness, Believe ji. 😉 Besides, people are the main government, it is based on the Consent of the Governed. That's why we discuss all this.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Do you believe in social Darwinism too? Do you feel that social Darwinism is also fair and justified?

Yes, as long as the social value model is undisturbed.

Originally posted by: finicky2010

Yes, as long as the social value model is undisturbed.

You cannot have social Darwinism and social values at the same time. Darwinism is survival of the fittest. In social Darwinism only the fit survive in society. Whether this fitness comes from wealth, power, influence, intellect or even attribute dependent like race, nationality, religion etc - the socially strong survive at all odds and the weak perish.

It is irrelevant whether the fitness comes from ethical or unethical means. If a member of a society is fit, then they deserve to be fit, they deserve to survive. If a member of a society is unfit, then they deserve to be unfit, they deserve to perish.

Darwinism is a not a value model, it is a survival model. We accept it in nature as natural law. We can either accept it in society as a social law. When we introduce social values then we have thrown social Darwinism out the window. For it no longer is survival of the fittest, but survival of fittest only if X and Y and Z. There are no ifs and buts or conditions to Darwinism.

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Originally posted by: krystal_watz

i was referring to the basic principle of equal distribution of wealth that communism espouses.....😆 u cant expect ppl to work their best if they r not promised any better rewards for their sweat....

Your illustration of a class of students holds ground only to a certain extent.

Let us take it further –

If you get 9/10 in a paper – you score 90%. Whether it was history, economics, mathematics or whatever. The scoring system is consistent. Your GPA or aggregate is also counted on every subject carrying equal weight. 9/10+8/10+10/10+7/10=8.5/10 = 85%.

In the economic model -

It does not matter if a burger flipper is the most perfect error free burger flipper. Burger flipper still gets minimum wage. 10/10 = 1% It does not matter if the CEO just crashed a company. He still makes 100K+. 1/10 = 100%.

We have a completely inconsistent scoring system, aggregates based on very random fluctuating weighted averages. A system that states that only 50% and above scores and jobs are acceptable and if you do not hit those scores it is your own laziness and fault. Yet not everyone can work 50% + jobs. Once those are filled someone has to fulfill the lower rungs. Moreover society will not function without the lower rung jobs. But obviously those who are only scoring 50% or lower in their jobs are lazy, they brought the low score upon themselves and deserve the misery.

Is an economic model that tries to weigh all jobs equally so that the scoring system is consistent and equivalent really a delusion of utopia or an attempt to fix an inconsistency.

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

hey friends, im about to post something that is very close to my heart............ive alwyas pondered over this......how come communism as a philosophy or state structure, NEVER BEEN SUCCESFUL or able to survive anywhere for long.........maybe except for cuba..........the whole world was witness to the downfall of the USSR......china has virtually turned into a "red capitalist" nation where all of communism is abandoned except for the totalitarian aspect?

do u think communism is incompatible to human nature? do u think it will be successful one day? share ur views.

Originally posted by: Xinit

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Bihar is the most backward state in India, but hasthe fastest growing economy.. Gujarat is the same... capitalism at work here...

Perfect example of failure of communism is west Bengal. Only thing they can boast about is better literacy rate..Nobody wants to invest in west bengal cuz of their poor work ethic. Hence they are considered one of the most backward regions in the country...

Wes Bengal is not backward. Of course communism doesn't work out, but it's certainly not backward. Many, many people know Hindi and English in the rural areas and W Bengal also is one of the best farming places in India. Have you been to Kolkata? If not, then plz don't comment.

Wes Bengal is not backward. Of course communism doesn't work out, but it's certainly not backward. Many, many people know Hindi and English in the rural areas and W Bengal also is one of the best farming places in India. Have you been to Kolkata? If not, then plz don't comment.

Originally posted by: Xinit

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Wes Bengal is not backward. Of course communism doesn't work out, but it's certainly not backward. Many, many people know Hindi and English in the rural areas and W Bengal also is one of the best farming places in India. Have you been to Kolkata? If not, then plz don't comment.


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Many businessmen have settled in Kolkata for many generations. I agree about the work ethics. There are always strikes and bandhs because of the Maoists and Trinamul(Mamata Banarjee) shouting at the top of her voice.

So, you think it's the worst city in the India, at least someone can speak Hindi or English there, unlike Madurai or Chennai, where it's hard to catch hold of someone who can speak Hindi amid the pollution and noisy 3-wheelers

Many businessmen have settled in Kolkata for many generations. I agree about the work ethics. There are always strikes and bandhs because of the Maoists and Trinamul(Mamata Banarjee) shouting at the top of her voice.

So, you think it's the worst city in the India, at least someone can speak Hindi or English there, unlike Madurai or Chennai, where it's hard to catch hold of someone who can speak Hindi amid the pollution and noisy 3-wheelers

Originally posted by: Xinit

Many businessmen have settled in Kolkata for many generations. I agree about the work ethics. There are always strikes and bandhs because of the Maoists and Trinamul(Mamata Banarjee) shouting at the top of her voice.

So, you think it's the worst city in the India, at least someone can speak Hindi or English there, unlike Madurai or Chennai, where it's hard to catch hold of someone who can speak Hindi amid the pollution and noisy 3-wheelers

That's because of it's location.....easier and quicker to get too. But if you look in those IT companies in Bangalore, most of them are Bengali.

P.S.: Something wrong with the quotations here?