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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Golden iron

what if you marry a bihari who does not know english and you are a telgu speaking....hmm i guess it will
Baby sing a song :)

Oh .. in that case the Telugu will learn Bihari but Bihari will also learn Telugu !!! right? Is this going to happen if Hindi is to be made national langueg? You have to make Telugu as a national language as well😉

Originally posted by: Golden iron

Or as I said before too when you Indian NRI, will it not be great to talk to him in a uniform language rather then just in english :(

What iF the NRIs do not know Hindi and they don't even understand Hindi? Should he learn it just for the sake of feeling great?

Originally posted by: Golden iron

Now tell me the reason why Hindi should not be a national language 😉 when it is widely spoken/accepted and is the easiest mode of communication

The answer is in your question itself. Although Hindi is widely spoken and understood in most of north and central India, it is very scarcely understood in south India. I think even in Maharashtra/Gujarat/Bengal/Orissa/Assam, it is not understood that well if you go to the interiors and rural areas. It is NOT the easiest mode of communiction in these areas as well as in most of the south India.
In your perspective, is India only North Indian states plus only cities and towns in only some selected other states? If that is the perspecive, then I am afraid it is not considering the whole of India.
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Posted: 16 years ago


Sandya before going bingo bongo at least read all the posts. I'll repeat again, there are people here who doesn't understand Hindi. Some know only English and their mother tongue (not including those who have Hindi as mother tongue). Apart from that there are people here who know only English.
I myself know about at least 5 people here who doesn't understand Hindi. Two of them are not even 'desi', they are white.

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: souro



Why so?? 😕
Actually there are people here who doesn't understand Hindi. Most of the interaction that goes on in here is in English. So, if someone is here just to interact with other people it will not necessarily mean that s/he understands Hindi.

I don't know to what extent it is true, but apart from the reason that Hindi is a foreign language in their region, some people are not so favourable about Hindi becoming the national language because when it comes to literature, Hindi is not very rich in that department. The logic that is used is somewhat like this, just because in India many people are sweepers we don't instate a sweeper as the head of the state.
Quality matters too and maybe Hindi lacks the quality to impress others.

Ermm because most people joined here to discuss Indian serials and correct me if i'm wrong but aren't they all in Hindi?😆Most NRI's understand hindi if not speak it which is exactly what I said.😉
Unless you're in the minority that goes to pak serial forum (urdu is similar to hindi) or have joined just for the tamil serial forum.😕
Yes we interact in English but talk to someone in Hindi and they will reply to you in Hindi too. If we watch all these shows then we pick up don't we? I don't get what you're tryna get it cos it's pretty damn obvious that if we were all so against hindi serials we wouldn't watch serials where people interact in 90% hindi and join a forum just to discuss these shows. Obviously the interaction will mostly be in English, most people are NRI's where we find it easier to speak English but have picked up Hindi through family/friends/show etc very well. Anyways, why debate this when you can pick a member at random and ask them and prove me right😆
Foreign language in their region? Hindi is a foreign language in every region! LOL it's not like we're imposing marathi on the punjabis or on the rest of the country is it? So what if Hindi isn't 'rich' in literature, it is a great means of communication!
and please speak for yourself about hindi lacking the quality to impress, don't speak for the 422+ million speakers worldwide. Clearly majority if India have nothing against the language. Thank you very much.
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: souro



Sandya before going bingo bongo at least read all the posts. I'll repeat again, there are people here who doesn't understand Hindi. Some know only English and their mother tongue (not including those who have Hindi as mother tongue). Apart from that there are people here who know only English.
I myself know about at least 5 people here who doesn't understand Hindi. Two of them are not even 'desi', they are white.

Souro I am not speaking for every single member on india forums. But look at most number of people-this is def. well over 90% and they understand Hindi, why else would they be on a forum that discusses Hindi shows? Most of us are desi and understand hindi.
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: hindu4lyf

Ermm because most people joined here to discuss Indian serials and correct me if i'm wrong but aren't they all in Hindi?😆Most NRI's understand hindi if not speak it which is exactly what I said.😉
Unless you're in the minority that goes to pak serial forum (urdu is similar to hindi) or have joined just for the tamil serial forum.😕
Maybe you should read your post again and then my reply. You said 'NONE of us' and I said 'there are people here'. I hope you understand the meaning and difference between the two.

Yes we interact in English but talk to someone in Hindi and they will reply to you in Hindi too. If we watch all these shows then we pick up don't we? I don't get what you're tryna get it cos it's pretty damn obvious that if we were all so against hindi serials we wouldn't watch serials where people interact in 90% hindi and join a forum just to discuss these shows. Obviously the interaction will mostly be in English, most people are NRI's where we find it easier to speak English but have picked up Hindi through family/friends/show etc very well. Anyways, why debate this when you can pick a member at random and ask them and prove me right😆
Foreign language in their region? Hindi is a foreign language in every region! LOL it's not like we're imposing marathi on the punjabis or on the rest of the country is it? So what if Hindi isn't 'rich' in literature, it is a great means of communication!
and please speak for yourself about hindi lacking the quality to impress, don't speak for the 422+ million speakers worldwide. Clearly majority if India have nothing against the language. Thank you very much.

I'm not speaking for those 422+ million speakers at all. What gave you the idea that I was?? And before you go ahead why not give us some example of the literary achievements in Hindi language.
If people feel that Hindi lacks the quality then what makes you think that the onus is on them to make life easier for those 422+ million speakers.

And just as you told me I can ask you too. Speak for yourself, you have no business trying to say what others should accept as their national language in their country. Who are you?? Some self appointed guardian who has the sole responsibility to make the decision about what people of India should choose??
Oh, and it seems you really don't know much about this matter which is reflected in your poor choice of words. It was not me speaking about what I think so no need to thank me, Tamils and to some extent Bengalis too think that their language are richer in literature compared to Hindi. And it adds to the struggle to oppose Hindi becoming the national language.

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Posted: 16 years ago
I know some folks here who chose to talk to their kids in hindi instead of their mother tongue at home. Reason - they want their kids to be able to communicate in Indian language with most desis around them. Nothing beats Hindi when it comes to number of people who understand it --- in case one wants to communicate in an Indian language instead of English.
BTW what next --- debate on whether our national anthem should be in a language other than what it is in originally😆 Hadd hai bewajah key ego issues banaaney ki - sach mein yaar, bilkul hadd hai😆
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: hindu4lyf

I stick with my point. Even the gora people you mentioned would've picked up bits of Hindi, probably enough to understand. I'm sorry I forgot to count those 2 members you mentioned! Maybe I should make my point more clear by saying 99.999% of the forum understand hindi. Thanks for nit-picking. What was the point of that again?😕
Most serials don't even have subtitles these days..

The people who don't understand Hindi usually visit IF only for the General Forums and doesn't go to the serials. And there quite a few of them actually, not just those two. And then there are many here who actually know Urdu so by default understand some Hindi but don't really know Hindi. I've seen some people in ML, Games and CC who don't know Hindi. Now of course they are not the majority but in General sections it is not as less as you think, they do exist.

I am speaking for myself, why would people choose to speak Hindi if it wasn't easy for them? Think about it. You're walking in Punjab where everyone's speaking punjabi, there must be a reason why people choose to speak hindi, cos they find it wasier to communicate with people or that is their preference of language. The number of people who use it as their first language is very high and they wouldn't do so if they weren't comfortable in speaking it. It's like me tryna speak marathi for the sake of it, there's no logic behind that, just cos my mum can speak it why should I? FYI I wasn't telling India what the sole language should be, I was stating my opinion, I thought that was the whole point of this forum?😕Ok fine Bengalis and tamils prefer to speak their own language, whose stopping them can you please tell me? We all have our own preference, I do too but that doesn't mean that I have a choice in whether I get to do french at school or not. It's still compulsory. Whose stopping anyone from learning their mother tongue at school? I don't get the harm in learning Hindi as well? Doesn't learning french add to my 'struggle' as it is nowhere near the english language. For that matter even learning history adds to my 'struggle'. If it becomes the national language then that'll be a change i'd like to see in India. Can I just add that from personal experience from down south, a lot of tamils actually do know how to speak Hindi but they refuse to speak the language, why? Now only you can ask them. They will communicate if you talk to them in english but hindi..all you get are evil looks.
So what of Hindi isn't rich in literature? How will it make a difference to anything..I don't get it please explain.
I'll repeat again that out of everyone here my community language is a dying language in India so I should be the most anti-hindi but if it brings us all together and helps an Indian to talk to another Indian without hesitation then what's the harm?

See, I already know Hindi, so how would I know how not being rich in literature makes a difference. But it makes a difference to them and that is all that I am saying; that they use it as one of their reasons to oppose Hindi, so maybe Hindi's lack of literary contribution makes it less attractive for them.

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

BTW what next --- debate on whether our national anthem should be in a language other than what it is in originally😆 Hadd hai bewajah key ego issues banaaney ki - sach mein yaar, bilkul hadd hai😆



Nah Gauri, I don't really agree with this. I mean it may be bewajah or with wajah (which is what the debate is all about in the first place), but ego will be there. It's like 'why him, why not me??' If tomorrow India plans to make Mumbai the capital city, people of Delhi will say that why what is wrong with our city. Even though they know that Mumbai is the financial capital of India, but they'll still find it hard to let go. It's kind of similar to promotion in work place. If someone is chosen ahead of us and we don't particularly think that s/he is more deserving, we'll find it difficult to let go.

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Posted: 16 years ago
^Lekin yaar who/what is there to feel jealous of?
There is no state that one can be angry about that oh yeah why do we have to speak their language, it;s not like that at all so why should anyone feel any sort of anger?
I agree completelyyy with gauri. Most desis just wanna make sure their kids know hindi so they can communicate with other desis lol.
None of my desi friends actually know hindi fluently other than from bollywood, but if I were to say things like bhudda or kutha :P then they'd understand. Even my sri lankan friends have caught on now what they mean and hell they use it against me! :( lol
If marathis don't mind that hindi is being used widely in their city then why should anyone else mind? If you love your mother tongue so much then keep talking in it, whose stopping you? Learning a new language doesn't mean forgetting your old one does it?
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: hindu4lyf

^Lekin yaar who/what is there to feel jealous of?

There is no state that one can be angry about that oh yeah why do we have to speak their language, it;s not like that at all so why should anyone feel any sort of anger?
I agree completelyyy with gauri. Most desis just wanna make sure their kids know hindi so they can communicate with other desis lol.
None of my desi friends actually know hindi fluently other than from bollywood, but if I were to say things like bhudda or kutha :P then they'd understand. Even my sri lankan friends have caught on now what they mean and hell they use it against me! :( lol
If marathis don't mind that hindi is being used widely in their city then why should anyone else mind? If you love your mother tongue so much then keep talking in it, whose stopping you? Learning a new language doesn't mean forgetting your old one does it?



well... when the marathis don't mind when hindi is being used widely in their city there are other people who mind. we cannot say just because the marathis accept hindi being widely used in their city then the others will just accept the same thing, don't you agree?? i mean what is acceptable to me may not be acceptable to you and what is acceptable to you might not be acceptable to me.

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