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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Minnie

Hindi is also the close Marathi, Gujrati, Urdu, Himachali and Punjabi.
Hence my question - why English and not Hindi?

Oh .. 😉 by this logic, why not all Hindi speakers learn Marathi and/or Guajarati? Why do they speak with them in Hindi and expect them also to communicate in Hindi? Its not just a question of closeness of languages. Its a question of a real meaning of unity in diversity. Hindi imposers want to take India from Unity in Diversity to Unity in Uniformity (which perhaps will lead to to Diversity although Unity)😭
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: SubhashKumar

BTW, this very attitude of non-Marathi ... particularly Hindi speaking people coming to Maharashtra is one of the root causes of the recent trouble.😡
Please do not try to just ignore the issue by labeling it as created by politically motivated parties. Although there could be a political angle to it, the root cause and the main reason why it became such a sensitive issue is because it exists in Maharashtra. Hindi is slowly replacing Marathi in all outside communication. This has started happening after independance and on a mass scale more recently due to uncontrolled migration of North Indian people in last decade or so. I am not against migration; but I am against this taking for granted attitude of Hindi speaking (and Hindi pampering) people who just assume that Hindi is and should be understood by all. I would strongly urge all Hindi speakers to stop this and help India stay united, not just politically but culturally as well.

wht ever the situation its purely a political stunt not only from raj thakrey but from hindi side politicians also though there is some % of truth in it but not much. still wht is the fault of language in this? wht is done is by people and not language so dont blame the language.
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: SubhashKumar

Oh .. 😉 by this logic, why not all Hindi speakers learn Marathi and/or Guajarati? Why do they speak with them in Hindi and expect them also to communicate in Hindi? Its not just a question of closeness of languages. Its a question of a real meaning of unity in diversity. Hindi imposers want to take India from Unity in Diversity to Unity in Uniformity (which perhaps will lead to to Diversity although Unity)😭

what logic u people come up with 🤣
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: SubhashKumar

BTW, this very attitude of non-Marathi ... particularly Hindi speaking people coming to Maharashtra is one of the root causes of the recent trouble.😡
Please do not try to just ignore the issue by labeling it as created by politically motivated parties. Although there could be a political angle to it, the root cause and the main reason why it became such a sensitive issue is because it exists in Maharashtra.
😆 chalo, this time around it's people from hindi belt that are perceived to be causing this "recent trouble". What happened in 70's when Bal Thackrey was after South Indians settled in Mumbai? Let's face it - it's those goons thackreys who create these so called problems to begin with just so that they could get some political mileage out of the ruckus. Many Maharashtrians have got it. High time the remaining ones get it too and stop becoming the puppets in the hands of BT and RT.
Hindi is slowly replacing Marathi in all outside communication. This has started happening after independance and on a mass scale more recently due to uncontrolled migration of North Indian people in last decade or so. I am not against migration; but I am against this taking for granted attitude of Hindi speaking (and Hindi pampering) people who just assume that Hindi is and should be understood by all. I would strongly urge all Hindi speakers to stop this and help India stay united, not just politically but culturally as well.
The children of hindi speaking people settled in Maharashtra learn marathi in school. They can speak marathi, hindi and english equally well. I hope you are not preaching that the grown ups, who migrated to Maharashtra, should give up their mother tongue and speak in Marathi only. Even they make an effort to pick the buzz words so that they can get along reasonably well - especially with people who don't speak any other language except Marathi. What else would you want these Hindi speaking folks to do?
And I doubt Hindi is replacing marathi in Maharashtra. If I am not mistaken, most offices, especially the private companies and MNCs, use English as their working language - not Hindi.
No one is saying that regional language people stop communicating with each other in their mother tongue. The point is that we should agree upon one universal language, apart from english, in India that most Indians can speak and understand reasonably well so that there are no barriers in communication. Hindi is the officially chosen national language of our country as it is spoken in lot more states than marathi or tamil or malyali or punjabi or gujrati etc. I don't know why some people always fret and crib about it!

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Posted: 16 years ago
Sorry Gauri but disagree with you there. Hindi is literally taking over Maharashtra. In case any of ya'll are wondering, my family too are non-marathi people who have settled in Maharashtra Mumbai but this was during partition time and mum has been born and brought up there only. Yeah they learn marathi in school and talk it sometimes at home but school kids will interact mianly with each other in Hindi. English is doing a good job taking over there too mind you =\ but it's very broken english, I haven't really comes across a person who speaks it fluently..not saying that I do but everyone's picked up words they've learn in class but that's about it.
and again you're wrong gauri, since when is English taking over marathi or even hindi for that matter in offices? LOL just walk into the bank of baroda for that matter, they all communicate in hindi and bits of marathi. There really is no english there. That's like two british born people speaking french just because they learnt it at school. lol English has its own influence no doubt but please let's not get carried away about english replacing hindi/marathi in offices LOL. Forget offices, as I have a family full of doctors, they all have their own clinics in bandra, santacruz etc and sorry but they do NOT communicate in english.
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: hindu4lyf

Sorry Gauri but disagree with you there. Hindi is literally taking over Maharashtra. In case any of ya'll are wondering, my family too are non-marathi people who have settled in Maharashtra Mumbai but this was during partition time and mum has been born and brought up there only. Yeah they learn marathi in school and talk it sometimes at home but school kids will interact mianly with each other in Hindi. English is doing a good job taking over there too mind you =\ but it's very broken english, I haven't really comes across a person who speaks it fluently..not saying that I do but everyone's picked up words they've learn in class but that's about it.

and again you're wrong gauri, since when is English taking over marathi or even hindi for that matter in offices? LOL just walk into the bank of baroda for that matter, they all communicate in hindi and bits of marathi. There really is no english there. That's like two british born people speaking french just because they learnt it at school. lol English has its own influence no doubt but please let's not get carried away about english replacing hindi/marathi in offices LOL. Forget offices, as I have a family full of doctors, they all have their own clinics in bandra, santacruz etc and sorry but they do NOT communicate in english.

Read my post again. I was talking about private companies and MNCs. Mumbai is the finacial capital of India. If I am not mistaken, a lot of corporations have offices there and langauge for recording work is English.
As far as not seeing Hindi that much around - my post is based on my experience when I lived in Pune. We used to visit my cousin in Mumbai while we were in Pune. Of course, locals who can speak hindi, communicate with non-marathi folks in hindi but I see them use marathi ALWAYS when they communicate with fellow marathis. One thing that I have noted with pretty much all non-hindi speaking Indians, they will talk to you in hindi but the moment someone from their region walks in, they immediately switch to their mother tongue even if you don't understand a single word of their language. Don't tell me this has changed now😆 Nothing wrong in it though. I never had any problem with this because I feel it's natural.
I feel it's the goons like thackreys who create ill-will when it comes to migrants and their culture. Same goes for local goons turned politicians in South also for fanning the anti-hidi sentiments. I doubt the common man would have made an issue about why hindi speaking people speak in hindi or why they don't speak the reregional language fluently😆
But tell me - why do people crib about hindi being the national language? Give me one reason why it should not be and which other Indian language should get that status.
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Posted: 16 years ago
..and trust me, hindi speaking people do try to make an effort to pick up the regional language. AFter all, it's not fun getting robbed by that sabzi-wallah day in and day out just because you calle kanda pyaaz and doodhi ghia😆 They used to quote a different rate to us than what our marathi friends got from them at Yerwada sabzi market😆 We always took it in our stride though. Wonder why we never made an issue outa this blatant discrimination🤔.........so, next time someone accuses us of being insensitive to the local culture and language, please keep in mind we do pay the price for being non-locals day in and day out😆
Geez, the anti-hindi sentiments crack me up. Angrezi bahut achha😆 Apni raashtra bhasha ki baat karo toh sari politics waheen soojhtee hai😆
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

Read my post again. I was talking about private companies and MNCs. Mumbai is the finacial capital of India. If I am not mistaken, a lot of corporations have offices there and langauge for recording work is English.
As far as not seeing Hindi that much around - my post is based on my experience when I lived in Pune. We used to visit my cousin in Mumbai while we were in Pune. Of course, locals who can speak hindi, communicate with non-marathi folks in hindi but I see them use marathi ALWAYS when they communicate with fellow marathis. One thing that I have noted with pretty much all non-hindi speaking Indians, they will talk to you in hindi but the moment someone from their region walks in, they immediately switch to their mother tongue even if you don't understand a single word of their language. Don't tell me this has changed now😆 Nothing wrong in it though. I never had any problem with this because I feel it's natural.
I feel it's the goons like thackreys who create ill-will when it comes to migrants and their culture. Same goes for local goons turned politicians in South also for fanning the anti-hidi sentiments. I doubt the common man would have made an issue about why hindi speaking people speak in hindi or why they don't speak the reregional language fluently😆
But tell me - why do people crib about hindi being the national language? Give me one reason why it should not be and which other Indian language should get that status.

Aha yess my mum has had a few bad experiences when it comes to 'discrimination' against non-marathis. Nevertheless she can speak marathi fluently, it;s funny listening to her and her bhabi talk in marathi cos they know no-one else will udnerstand lol. Not too long ago we were booking to go to a hill station somewhere in maharashtra only, mount abu or matheran I think hmm. We Indians have a habit of bargaining anf mum was doing exactly that and the lady turned around asking her manager in marathi-shall i give it to her? thinking mum wouldn't understand😆turns out when the bill came that they charged us the original price and mum gave her a right lecture!😛
Yes people who speak marathi will obv wanna speak with neighbours etc in marathi this exists everywhere you go I guess. But because mumbai has people from all paths, despite being 90% marathi, the communication used there is mainly hindi. I can't comment on pune cos i've never been there but I have relatives from there and they can speak as fluent hindi as marathi. MNC's are only a small part of Mumbai where the workers themselves just about manage to speak tooti footi english lol. But my observation from going to Mumbai has always been that majority of people communicate on the roads..doctors..hospitals etc in hindi. Espescially the school kids and they're the future of India after all.
But don't get me wrong, I'm totally for Hindi being the national language! You don't see the british accusing the govt. of forcing the french language on them even though a language is now literally compulsory in majority of schools. So what's the big deal about hindi when it comes from our own country!..?😕
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Posted: 16 years ago
Why so much fuss about hindi ? 😕 Every state has its own language and its compulsory in their schools .My mother tongue is Punjabi but instead of that i speak Hindi ..should i make an issue out of this ?Many Punjabis speaks Hindi at homes ?? is it that bad ? No one force them its their choice.....Hindi is a language which is close to many other languages of India . As far as Mumbai is concern it is the finacial capital of India professinals from all over the India lives there and film Industry of India is also in Mumbai which is known as hindi film industry that is why it has some influence on comman man also
i dont know about others but i really love bengali and gujrati and i would love to learn these languages ...pata nahi log Hindi sikh ke khush kyo nahi hai ...nahi hai khush toh matt seekho..who is forcing it on them ???
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: hindu4lyf

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..................But don't get me wrong, I'm totally for Hindi being the national language! You don't see the british accusing the govt. of forcing the french language on them even though a language is now literally compulsory in majority of schools. So what's the big deal about hindi when it comes from our own country!..?😕

Naheen yaar, I did not get you wrong. I see where you are coming from. What bugs me isthe fact that some local politicians making a huge hue & cry over this change where maharashtriyans are seen speaking hindi. They consider it culture-erosion which it is not. I think knowing different languages is pretty neat and if one of those languages could be used as the mass communications means in a country with different regional languages - I don't see any harm in it.
@ French being compulsory in Brit schools - here in the U.S. also, it's mandatory to have one foreign language in high school. My daughter will take Spanish this year as part of her 10th grade curriculum.

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