Generation 1 Vs Generation 2 - Page 2

Challenges & struggles are nothing when you got a dream and you know there's no way but up. Heck we all come from a culture where we can work hard if we only have a goal we can buy into. Gen 1 had purpose to life and to the extent they are successful, there is that much less for Gen2 to work for. Life becomes one series of meaningless events after another when there's not much ambition... there's too much of everything by the time you are a teen... leading to boredom. So i feel Gen 2 has it harder. Physical toil is nothing compared to boredom and the emptiness of the soul, or to knowing that anything you do would pale in significance...😊 This is true for many Gen 2 whose parents are successful, anywhere in the world; we dont even have to talk about NRI parents.

Originally posted by: crossroads7

Challenges & struggles are nothing when you got a dream and you know there's no way but up. Heck we all come from a culture where we can work hard if we only have a goal we can buy into. Gen 1 had purpose to life and to the extent they are successful, there is that much less for Gen2 to work for. Life becomes one series of meaningless events after another when there's not much ambition... there's too much of everything by the time you are a teen... leading to boredom. So i feel Gen 2 has it harder. Physical toil is nothing compared to boredom and the emptiness of the soul, or to knowing that anything you do would pale in significance...😊 This is true for many Gen 2 whose parents are successful, anywhere in the world; we dont even have to talk about NRI parents.

usually the generation 2 will have a mix cultures of both their surroundings and the values, beliefs and cultures of the parents.

In a typical asian emigrant family scenario, Gen. 2 scores more in terms of educational and professional achievements but this niche is lost in most cases by the time Gen. 3 comes along. Reason is that Gen. 2 is not as pushy on their offspring as Gen. 1 was on theirs.

No doubts Gen. 1 faces lot more challenges and ends up doing lot more sacrifices than Gen. 2 but 1's compromises with an alien culture is part and parcel of the challenges faced by them whereas Gen. 2 is expected to make whole bunch of compromises.

Think about it --- Gen. 1 brought the Gen. 2 to this new world but they want them to hold on to the same set of values and morals that they had while growing up in their native country. This expectation creates a new set of challenges for 2 to face and adjust to. 1 sacrificed a lot --- some even left cushiony jobs back home to emigrate to western countries so that 2 could have lot more opportunities at their fingertips. Wits this sacrifice comes an expectation that 2 will excel at academics and extra curriculars so that 1's sacrifices don't go waste. Most parents belonging to Gen. 1 unashamedly use their sacrifices as the pushing force to drive 2 to not only give their best but surpass the bestest of the best. This creates a lot of pressure for 2. Many times, 1 wants to live tgheir dreams, their aspirations through 2. This doesn't make 2's life any easier either.

I would say both generations have their sets of challenges, sacrifices and compromises to face and make. The nature of these challenges, compromises and sacrifices may change but they both face it. 2 may have it a bit more easy financially and other material comforts wise but the emotional pressure on then --- the emotional baggage of their parents' expectations --- is the price they pay for the material comforts.

If you ask me, Generation 3 has it easiest. 2 has gone through the emotional blackmail and constatntly trying to stand up to 1's expectations - both cultural and educational. Most of the parents belonging to 2 don't usually put the same kind of pressure on 3.

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

In a typical asian emigrant family scenario, Gen. 2 scores more in terms of educational and professional achievements but this niche is lost in most cases by the time Gen. 3 comes along. Reason is that Gen. 2 is not as pushy on their offspring as Gen. 1 was on theirs. <br><br>No doubts Gen. 1 faces lot more challenges and ends up doing lot more sacrifices than Gen. 2 but 1's compromises with an alien culture is part and parcel of the challenges faced by them whereas Gen. 2 is expected to make whole bunch of compromises. <br><br>Think about it --- Gen. 1 brought the Gen. 2 to this new world but they want them to hold on to the same set of values and morals that they had while growing up in their native country. This expectation creates a new set of challenges for 2 to face and adjust to. 1 sacrificed a lot --- some even left cushiony jobs back home to emigrate to western countries so that 2 could have lot more opportunities at their fingertips. Wits this sacrifice comes an expectation that 2 will excel at academics and extra curriculars so that 1's sacrifices don't go waste. Most parents belonging to Gen. 1 unashamedly use their sacrifices as the pushing force to drive 2 to not only give their best but surpass the bestest of the best. This creates a lot of pressure for 2. Many times, 1 wants to live tgheir dreams, their aspirations through 2. This doesn't make 2's life any easier either.<br><br>I would say both generations have their sets of challenges, sacrifices and compromises to face and make. The nature of these challenges, compromises and sacrifices may change but they both face it. 2 may have it a bit more easy financially and other material comforts wise but the emotional pressure on then --- the emotional baggage of their parents' expectations --- is the price they pay for the material comforts.<br><br>If you ask me, Generation 3 has it easiest. 2 has gone through the emotional blackmail and constatntly trying to stand up to 1's expectations - both cultural and educational. Most of the parents belonging to 2 don't usually put the same kind of pressure on 3. <br>

There is a kind of generalization in what you have said, but overall very nice points 👏 😊

out of experience i guess ?

Originally posted by: clodpolish

There is a kind of generalization in what you have said, but overall very nice points 👏 😊

out of experience i guess ?

Generalization is there but that's because we are talking about the whole generations - not certain specific cases. I have come across cab drivers or grocery store owners here whose kids are in engineering or medical or pharmaceutical colleges. I also know one or two here and there where the parents are doctors or engineers but kids did not excel in academics. But by large, I know more of the ultra successful 2 gen families than the so so ones.

You got to see desi parents here (most asians) to get a feel of how pushy they can get. The kids barely get any time being the kids between violin recitals, ballet classes, kumon, charity work, mother tongue classes, temple visits etc. so that when it comes to applying to colleges, their resume is impecable and they don't lose the feel for their own culture while growing up in the west --- where desi culture can't be absorbed through osmosis.

Yes, out of experience --- my own and what I see around me😊

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

What about generation 1.5?

any fraction over 1 gets the emotional blackmail in viraasat😆

Hmm,
thanks for sharing !
Thats knowledge for me rather than anything else ! 😊

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

In a typical asian emigrant family scenario, Gen. 2 scores more in terms of educational and professional achievements but this niche is lost in most cases by the time Gen. 3 comes along. Reason is that Gen. 2 is not as pushy on their offspring as Gen. 1 was on theirs.

No doubts Gen. 1 faces lot more challenges and ends up doing lot more sacrifices than Gen. 2 but 1's compromises with an alien culture is part and parcel of the challenges faced by them whereas Gen. 2 is expected to make whole bunch of compromises.

Think about it --- Gen. 1 brought the Gen. 2 to this new world but they want them to hold on to the same set of values and morals that they had while growing up in their native country. This expectation creates a new set of challenges for 2 to face and adjust to. 1 sacrificed a lot --- some even left cushiony jobs back home to emigrate to western countries so that 2 could have lot more opportunities at their fingertips. Wits this sacrifice comes an expectation that 2 will excel at academics and extra curriculars so that 1's sacrifices don't go waste. Most parents belonging to Gen. 1 unashamedly use their sacrifices as the pushing force to drive 2 to not only give their best but surpass the bestest of the best. This creates a lot of pressure for 2. Many times, 1 wants to live tgheir dreams, their aspirations through 2. This doesn't make 2's life any easier either.

I would say both generations have their sets of challenges, sacrifices and compromises to face and make. The nature of these challenges, compromises and sacrifices may change but they both face it. 2 may have it a bit more easy financially and other material comforts wise but the emotional pressure on then --- the emotional baggage of their parents' expectations --- is the price they pay for the material comforts.

If you ask me, Generation 3 has it easiest. 2 has gone through the emotional blackmail and constatntly trying to stand up to 1's expectations - both cultural and educational. Most of the parents belonging to 2 don't usually put the same kind of pressure on 3.

that mostly applies to asian immigrants migrating to the western countries. but there are also westerners who migrate to the asian countries under certain circumstaces mostly due to their jobs. the westerners parents though don't force as much towards their kids than the asian parents migrating western countries. and as for the sacrifices go, mostly people who are migrating from asian countries to western countries are looking for more opportunities in their career or because they have been offered many better career with better payments than they were in their own home countries not because they want different environment and are willing to relinquish their good career if they already had one. most zimbabwe people who are working overseas were because the zimbabwe country is too poor with mega inflation in their economy that it is so difficult for a person to get a good career opportunity and they work outside of zimbabwe because they want to have a better life and be able to provide a better necessity, education and life for their families not because they already have good jobs back in zimbabwe.

Originally posted by: rongna

that mostly applies to asian immigrants migrating to the western countries. but there are also westerners who migrate to the asian countries under certain circumstaces mostly due to their jobs.

If I'm not mistaken, Raj meant 1st gen from a less privileged country emigrating to a more privileged country. If it is not so, he can make that clarification and we'll take the debate from there.

If I'm not mistaken, the westerners you mentioned usually go back home once their project is done. The majority doesn't stay back like asians do in western countries and they send their kids to schools that are run by their embassies as well. What would be there to debate on as far as challenges etc are concerned for Gen. 2 there?