Will you be sad or glad to see Bush go? - Page 7

Originally posted by: apux

As for you being conservative, to be honest I was bit similar to you in high school....I didn't really want to think or talk about gay people....I was uncomfortable of the thought of same sex relationships....There was this flamboyant gay guy in one of my classes....I was sort of indifferent towards him while my other friends were actually quite cruel to him....They acted as if he was a leper and one friend screamed every time he came near here....I knew that was wrong but I never stood up for that guy....As I entered college, I met many different people and learned many different things....I became more open-minded and began to really understand how people felt on this issue....I actually have no personal attachment to gay people because I don't have any family members or close friends that are gay, but I sympathize with the injustice being done on them on a very human level....and oh since I'm a science person, I like it when there is proof for something so its easy for me to understand gay people and why they are the way they are in biological terms....anyways, I'm sure you really don't care how I came to be sooo open-minded....but here it is😆

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*

Well kinda like what your siggy says, everything in life is never static, be it opinions, people, morals, etc. So the bottomline is that everything does depend from person to person, but that doesn't necessarily mean that each person is right. 😉😆

Originally posted by: apux

As for you being conservative, to be honest I was bit similar to you in high school....I didn't really want to think or talk about gay people....I was uncomfortable of the thought of same sex relationships....There was this flamboyant gay guy in one of my classes....I was sort of indifferent towards him while my other friends were actually quite cruel to him....They acted as if he was a leper and one friend screamed every time he came near here....I knew that was wrong but I never stood up for that guy....As I entered college, I met many different people and learned many different things....I became more open-minded and began to really understand how people felt on this issue....I actually have no personal attachment to gay people because I don't have any family members or close friends that are gay, but I sympathize with the injustice being done on them on a very human level....and oh since I'm a science person, I like it when there is proof for something so its easy for me to understand gay people and why they are the way they are in biological terms....anyways, I'm sure you really don't care how I came to be sooo open-minded....but here it is😆

Originally posted by: ashoka_was_king

Like John Kerry would say

There are two kinds of balls. One that can be hit and one that cannot be hit. A ball that is to be hit should be hit and a ball that is not to be hit should not be hit. But we live in a free country and have free choice. You can choose if you want to hit a ball to be hit or not. If you do not hit a ball to be hit it is your prerogative. I support the right of people who choose to hit or not hit irrespective of whether the ball was to be hit or not. That way we all would hit and the ball is protected too.

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

Hey, thanks for sharing your experience. I was never judgmental to begin with. That was why I never had any problems with Gays in the past too --- as long as it was not me or someone I know - this is how I used to be. As long as my kids, my brothers, my sisters are all "natural", I don't care who does what. But that thinking changed over the period of time after I moved to state. My first encounter with an out of the closet Gay was approx. 6 years ago when I first started working. he was my colleague's brother. Her parents had a hard time accepting their son was not like other people's sons. Once they accepted him and his soulmate, all their sorrows just melted away. I also noticed how happy, serene and at peace he looked when he was with his mate. That kind of contentment can never come from something unpious or unholy. Over these six years, I have known two other gays, one gay and one lesbian, at work. The guy is simply awesome. I was surprised when he noticed that I had a hair cut and high lights in my hair. Usually, such things go over guys' heads😆 Gal was a totally different story though. She was as bi***y as one can ever get😆

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Like John Kerry would say

There are two kinds of balls. One that can be hit and one that cannot be hit. A ball that is to be hit should be hit and a ball that is not to be hit should not be hit. But we live in a free country and have free choice. You can choose if you want to hit a ball to be hit or not. If you do not hit a ball to be hit it is your prerogative. I support the right of people who choose to hit or not hit irrespective of whether the ball was to be hit or not. That way we all would hit and the ball is protected too.

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

Well, if you are now going to use nature as your savior here then let me point out that unicellular creatures like bacteria or amoeba or virus exist in the very same nature jis ki duhaee tum dey rahee ho and these creatures are capable of reproducing without any external factor. Don't remember the name of the process now but if I am not mistaken, it's binary fusion. It has been ages since I took biology. Plants have also known to reproduce using budding. Therefore, it was never nature's intent that union should be or can only be between two heterosexual beings. And even if the sole intent of man-woman union is procreation then isn't it high time we start going against this particular will of nature like we have so many times with helping barren women conceive with donated sperms or folks having test tube babies? Since science has beaten the very purpose nature put hetrosexuality in place for majority of species, per you, then what's the point of hanging on to something that may not be as relevant today as it was in past centuries? Wow Gauri, you remember your bio pretty well huh! You bring up a very valid point there....nature does have asexual creatures. And humans carry more bacteria than human cells so asexual reproduction is happening on humans all the time😲 And lemme also mention that there has been homosexual activity among animals *gasp* I thought it was unnatural! So much for animals/bacteria/plants for following nature's rules...

Originally posted by: ashoka_was_king

I think u missed something very important there 😆

But ya , a good point 👏

However, most highly debatable , complex , never answerable issues , do have only one answer , which i stated 😆

Then you'll have to debate on whether that answer is right or wrong, and then again u'll receive the same answer 😆😆

I dunno why there is always a lot of grey , and rarely black and white about something .
See Sehwag's mind,
"if a ball's there to be hit, i go after it " Simple

I am jealous of his clear cut mind 😆
My mind thinks like,
if a ball's there to be hit, should i hit it ? my form is not good, i shouldn't hit it ........but it is there to be hit !!
kya karoon ? 😭

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*

That comment right there makes everything you said earlier in their defense, null and void. 😉
If its so natural, then its occurence is natural as well. Then why does all that only apply to those who're not related to you? Hmm? 😛

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

Hey, thanks for sharing your experience. I was never judgmental to begin with. That was why I never had any problems with Gays in the past too --- as long as it was not me or someone I know - this is how I used to be. As long as my kids, my brothers, my sisters are all "natural", I don't care who does what. But that thinking changed over the period of time after I moved to state. My first encounter with an out of the closet Gay was approx. 6 years ago when I first started working. he was my colleague's brother. Her parents had a hard time accepting their son was not like other people's sons. Once they accepted him and his soulmate, all their sorrows just melted away. I also noticed how happy, serene and at peace he looked when he was with his mate. That kind of contentment can never come from something unpious or unholy. Over these six years, I have known two other gays, one gay and one lesbian, at work. The guy is simply awesome. I was surprised when he noticed that I had a hair cut and high lights in my hair. Usually, such things go over guys' heads😆 Gal was a totally different story though. She was as bi***y as one can ever get😆