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Posted: 16 years ago
#41
I posted this on the other thread regarding this Sid vs Prince issue, so I am copy pasting it here - to save time. 😃

Originally posted by: akanna

I am putting my points, from the view of a mere dance spectator for the show.

One, it was very obvious that Zee was preparing for the scripted drama, because if anyone had noticed, when Prince finished performing and the judges were commenting on his performance, the camera kept putting Siddesh's face in focus, zooming on him, and he looked very tensed - which meant that he knew he had to say all these things whether he likes it or not - because that's all part of the contract the reality show contestants sign up with the channel. I have seen this drama in so many shows now, that I dont even take it with any face value anymore!! If you go and check all the reality show forums on IF, you can see that this kind of topic have been in all of them, where one's fans go against the other one's - the channels do it for TRPs.
Two, Terence did say that Prince does P&B and Siddesh did Locking - no offense to anyone, but that's what I heard with my ears - even after watching the repeat of the same show. Both Remo and Mithun didnt let Siddesh explain - they kept shutting him up, and he was tired of the whole thing, which was very clear from his face, and so he said he doesnt want to waste anymore time, and would like the show to continue - this is what I understood from the whole skit. Remo as usual exaggerated and over praised his team member - this has been going on for weeks, that I see zero value in his comments. The honest judge is Terence and he shows no partiality in making his comments - he is a very fair person and gives his honest feedback to everyone as a real dance master - he isnt so much in film choreography because he isnt intereted in it, not because he cannot do it. Plus film choreography is way different than the stage one - ask any dance masters of any dance form.
Three, Prince isnt the king of L or P or B, he is not even the Prince in them. To me, the King for all that is Michael Jackson, no offense to anyone, and in India, it's Prabhu Deva - Prince is not even any closer to them. Then there is this 10-11 years old boy Ayush, who had won the Ek Se Badkar Ek Chota Packet show, and he simply excelled in all of them - plus he is very versatile - so saying Prince is only 16 isnt an excuse as Ayush is only 10-11 years old - IMHO. And Prince isnt graceful and he is quite stiff, and he keeps repeating the same P&B steps week after week. There's a difference from being stiff for "robot" steps to being stiff for non-robot movements - it will look too stiff and like a stick movement then. Prince mocked at Jai and Siddesh in the wild card round week, and it didnt create any issues on this forum.
Remo has always been very protective and over praising of his students, and he does that the least for Mangesh - why, I never understood. He has been a copy cat lately - the week after Terence's team (Jai and Vrushali) did the "Maa Da Laadla" puppet dance, Remo came up with the "Arre Jaare Natkhat" dance with Salman and Kushboo - the basic concept was similar though the costumes were different. Then Mayuresh did the ring dance and got all the salutes, Remo came up with the rope dance for Salman the following week!! Terence's team have been doing a lot of salsa/flamingo steps with lifts and turns, and Remo started doing that with his team!! Honestly, Mangesh is the best dancer in his team. Mangesh might be the least good looking among the six, but he is the most versatile and flexible.
Siddesh had the grace and stage presence in his dance, and I enjoyed it more than all of Prince's dances so far. In my eyes, he rocked. It was a choreographed dance, and why is Siddesh being blamed here - I dont get it!! It's just my POV, and I have nothing against either of them, as this is only a competition and whoever gets the most votes will win at the end, and life will move on. None of them are related to me, and it doesnt make any difference to me whoever wins at the end - it's good for them and their family.
This show is all about dance and dance alone - so all kinds of dance forms and variations are required, and not just LPB alone. If not, they would have called it "Pop India Break" or "Lock India Pop" instead.

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Posted: 16 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: ssk13809


So not true
You are talking about Gita, who always compliments her own group but not others. Just last week, after Prince's performance, Remo told him he messed up here and there. So please, keep that garbage out.
Remo is a great judge/choreographer/mentor

Prince does locking&popping better, and Siddesh and Remo agree there.

Gita has always said the minus points too for her team members, and adds to it, that we will work on it, dont worry. She always puts it in a way a mother would tell her kids - hence they all love and respect her as their own mother, if you have noticed. Terence is the one who is very frank even about the teeny weeny completely unnoticed mistakes, when it comes to his students. In a way it has helped them to improve week after week and to have a better attitude. And Remo even used to praise Rakhi, exaggerating so much after her performance. But the public sensed it right though. 👏
For the first time, Remo made a comment admitting the mistakes of Prince - I believe he did that to avoid Terence and Gita pointing them out, which they would have, so he said that in a short sentence and made it smaller so that they will not say step by step - Remo is very cunning as far as I saw in this show, and he made a politically correct comment here to save himself. I have never felt that Remo is a great mentor - I dont see any of his students having any affection towards him as a master, when compared to the students of Terence and Gita. He doesnt feel for them, whereas the other two always do. Remo is always quick and eager to find at least one or two mistakes for the contestants outside his team, even if they have the nearly perfect performance, but he doesnt do that with his team.
Prince does P and B like a robot - very stiff and with an absolutely expression less stone face!! Any dance he does, he repeats the steps and keeps his face like a stone that it's hard to enjoy his dance - first time it was okay, but it became boring when got repeated week after week. 🤢
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Posted: 16 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: risingabove


And Prince challenged Siddesh, because Siddese & Jai & Gita challenged him. He responded to their challenge. And then challenged Siddesh, and siddesh responded too, but went too far.

None of them "challenged" Prince - that's the wrong term. As a mentor and judge, Gita had every right to say that to Prince - that he has to show versatility and not just LnP. Even Terence mentioned the same thing, if I remember. Why Jai and Siddesh made those comments, only Zee knows, as they would have answered some questions regading that to make those comments - I dont think thay said something out of the blue without being prompted. So Zee deliberately edited those parts out, which they always do with all their reality shows!! Then in the wild card round, Prince did a beginner's level contemporary dance, and then mocked at Jai and Siddesh in front of the judges and audience, and challenged them! Gita might have felt the challenge at a personal level, so she choreographed that dance for Siddesh, to prove that Siddesh is equally good at it and not just Prince alone, they way Remo keeps saying over and over!!! It was Gita's reply to Remo and Prince - kudos to Gita and Siddesh!! 👏 👏
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Posted: 16 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: phadukaran


Arrogant, that is what Salman, Jai, Mayuresh, Khusbhoo and Bhavna have.... Siddesh is as versatile, as Mayuresh, and Jai. Three contestants who holds more respect to me is, Siddesh, Jay and Mayuresh. Apart from them there is no one who is better.

I am not saying against you here, but I want to correct one thing in your post - Jai, Mayuresh, Siddesh, Salman, and all are not arrogant, but CONFIDENT. They perform with so much confidence, which is a MUST for a dance on stage. None of them are arrogant... I wish to see Mayuresh, Siddesh, Jai, Vrushali and Alisha as top five - no offense to anyone, but these are the best performers in this show, when it comes to real dance and talent, and that is what the show is all about - DANCE!! 😃
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Posted: 16 years ago
#45
Being the oldest of all, and being more experienced than anyone else out there... [6 years or so], he is expected to maintain a certain decorum...

And he has failed in doing so... He may be a good dancer. But I would like his dancing to speak for itself. Let him leave the judging to the judges. And yes, whoever said Salman et al are arrogant, just shows how much a person knows how to judge people...

End of discussion. Mods, you may lock this topic if you must!
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Posted: 16 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: akanna

I am not saying against you here, but I want to correct one thing in your post - Jai, Mayuresh, Siddesh, Salman, and all are not arrogant, but CONFIDENT. They perform with so much confidence, which is a MUST for a dance on stage. None of them are arrogant... I wish to see Mayuresh, Siddesh, Jai, Vrushali and Alisha as top five - no offense to anyone, but these are the best performers in this show, when it comes to real dance and talent, and that is what the show is all about - DANCE!! 😃



I wasn't sure earlier, but it's clear you have something against Remo. The way you hate on him, and now it seems his contestants too (No top 5 in remo's group?). Vrushali has no chance in Top 5. Everyone besides for Khusboo is better than Vrushali in Remo's group.

The others are plausible.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: kimmu

I don't know, I'm still with Siddesh. I think Prince's been boasted too much and Prince takes that too highly now... For me, Siddesh is the better dancer. And its good that he spoke up.

hahah! I just wanna say your SIG ROCKS!!

He is good at it! so yeah deal with it!

I wish i had thought of that!!

may i use that??

I'll credit you for it!
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Posted: 16 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: ssk13809


I wasn't sure earlier, but it's clear you have something against Remo. The way you hate on him, and now it seems his contestants too (No top 5 in remo's group?). Vrushali has no chance in Top 5. Everyone besides for Khusboo is better than Vrushali in Remo's group.
The others are plausible.

I dont like Remo's attitude, true, but I dont take it on his contestants though. I like Mangesh the most from his team, and, Salman and the sisters after that. But when compared to the performances so far of the five I have mentioned, I dont see any of them equally good when it comes to the dance show as a competition. Of course, my top five may not make it to top five, as it all depends on votes. I love music and dance, and so anyone who does it well will be a winner in my eyes, regardless of everything else. And I always like the true talent to win, someone who is dedicated to it in life...
Vrushali is a trained classical dancer, and in my eyes, she is way better than Bhavana, Khushboo and Sunita. Honestly, I didnt like her in the beginning, but as weeks passed, she wowed me with her performance and talent. The same goes for Mayuresh, Siddesh and Alisha. It was only Jai who has been in my list from the beginning, as he performed well since the audition. And in the coming weeks, if their performances get weaker and anyone else gets better - as a true dancer, my wishes would go to them, as at the end, I really want the true talent to win, someone who is consistant, versatile and dedicated... 😃
I would like to see this show become an inspiration to those who want to pursue dance as a career in life, all of those who have the talent and mindset for it, regardless of their background...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: cruizer

Being the oldest of all, and being more experienced than anyone else out there... [6 years or so], he is expected to maintain a certain decorum...

REMO being a judge and a mentor should maintaub a certain decorum. As a mentor he should not criticize, belittle and constantly put down the contestants not in his team. Also he should not over praise them and not point out their mistakes.

And he has failed in doing so... As if Remo has not. Before pointing fingers at Siddhesh, you should be aware of what the judges do. He may be a good dancer. But I would like his dancing to speak for itself. Let him leave the judging to the judges.He would have had Remo done his job. And yes, whoever said Salman et al are arrogant, just shows how much a person knows how to judge people...

End of discussion. Mods, you may lock this topic if you must!

OH it's okay for the Mods to close this topic now that you have opposition? Oh my dear friend, it does NOT work like that.
[quote]P.S.: To the moderators... Don't you dare lock this topic... It's janta's opinion.. We have a right![/quote]

If you have the right to bash Siddhesh, we have every right to defend him!

Edited by Tamedtempest - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: akanna

None of them "challenged" Prince - that's the wrong term. As a mentor and judge, Gita had every right to say that to Prince - that he has to show versatility and not just LnP. Even Terence mentioned the same thing, if I remember. Why Jai and Siddesh made those comments, only Zee knows, as they would have answered some questions regading that to make those comments - I dont think thay said something out of the blue without being prompted. So Zee deliberately edited those parts out, which they always do with all their reality shows!! Then in the wild card round, Prince did a beginner's level contemporary dance, and then mocked at Jai and Siddesh in front of the judges and audience, and challenged them! Gita might have felt the challenge at a personal level, so she choreographed that dance for Siddesh, to prove that Siddesh is equally good at it and not just Prince alone, they way Remo keeps saying over and over!!! It was Gita's reply to Remo and Prince - kudos to Gita and Siddesh!! 👏 👏

very well worded friend! :-D!! good job!👏👏 You make it easier for me LOL

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