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Posted: 12 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Mrs.MuffinSobti



I don't necessarily agree with the posts that were bashing CC but I think it's totally unnecessary to bring in Sanaya's previous show and previous co-star everytime, and it's also very rude to talk on behalf of some her fans. I mean, you can't say for sure what they are thinking.

And the "bashing" was also done in a respectful manner (for the most part), so nothing to get so riled up about. Even I think CC has improved a lot but I would reply saying so, not saying all this.

I mean the answer to all criticism in this forum is 'oh they can't digest SI's awesome romance with Anuj. They're just jealous." No that's not the answer to everything. It's getting annoying seeing it over and over again.



I think the original thread is closed now...so there is no point of carrying the same topic here in this post...If you still want to continue..please make new thread and I am 100% sure the entire group will join there once again!!


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Posted: 12 years ago
#32
guys, i do not want to see this thread get closed by the Mods,
since showviewer has written it with such a great length, sharing many great points..


so pls...


@sunara... those are hard facts!
love it..!


chhanchhan is a no-stress show.. so lets enjoy it...


Edited by goguma - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: goguma

guys, i do not want to see this thread get closed by the Mods,
since showviewer has written it with such a great length, sharing many great points..


so pls...



sorry dear ,,u r right
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Posted: 12 years ago
#34

Updated on page 1 :)
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Posted: 12 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: princessunara

Beautifully replied di!!

Other than for Rima di & Fari and a very few others i wasn't very sure if i was to take the responses very seriously or not...Considering no1 else cribbing are visible providing support for the show on this forum in any case. So 'we still support only for Sanaya' line clearly doesn't apply to many. Not all I would like to emphasize.. there probably r many genuine responses..though most obviously not all..


Anyway I agree word to word.
(to tis reply i mean)

First thing, I would like to address an issue. Awards

case in point - ITA awards best actress popular - Sandya from DABH
Now this is not done to put any1 down, but well for me at least the authenticity of awards shows' selections was defined with this. Now had either Sanaya or DD had gotten the award, I would have accepted. yes I am only a SI fan, but nothing else needs to be said than this example on why awards shows NEVER is actually about the ACTRESS who essays a role.
It is hypocritical that an actress who elevates a mediocre role to heights is disregarded and an actress who brings down a well written role with mediocre acting is felicitated simple cz the show has TRPs.

Thus I have NO expectations towards awards.. cz awards on Indian TV awards shows are NOT given based on an actor/actress's capabilities and talent. Thus in all honestly I will say if Khushi didn't get her that, CC most definitely will not either.

Khushi was a precious jewel of a character, BUT on India TV unless a girl weeps and bends over backwards and is all serious and moans that is not considered jury awards material.
And unless a girl's show is NOT rocking the TRP charts she is not consdered as popular actress material.

THUS both CC nor Khushi falls in to either of the above said categories..

Neither character weeps, moans nor is preachy enough. So they do not comply with the norms expected of the awards winning characters..

An actress's talent nor her portrayal matters, the character does. As unfair and illogical and moronic as it is, that is the bitter truth.


Now coming to CC, well compared with Khushi & Gunjan - two characters I adored, CC seems a little less complicated at word go.

But then again the last thing I would call Gunjan is complicated. Khushi was on the other hand a very complicated character that brought a lot of excess baggage and was weighted down by it.

CC indeed came with a lot of promises which the show utterly failed to deliver for 48 episodes. Beginning with a ML that was not suited to even be a spot boy to direction to script to screen play. it SUCKED.


BUT in all honesty the past one month has been very much uplifting and they have managed to salvage most of the done damage starting with a fabulous male lead who compliments her perfectly from acting to good looks.


Now CC being too white, it does seem so right? But i would like to ask a question. Had we been that simple girl who got married and went there.. Are any of us inherently any different? She seems more compassionate than many..but then again its only to be expected considering her regard to animals, which was a main aspect of her character description.

So far we have not been delivered the full goods, but the going for the past month has been very good.
Its fun to watch.. makes me laugh.

Yes CC seems so perfectly uncomplicated. But as I said unlike Khushi who had a troubled childhood, CC was brought up in the lap of luxury and amidst showers of love and emotional and material security. Why will a girl like that even be complicated?

She is not stupid..But Why will she suspect something at first? In her world so far family simply loved, they didn't play games with other family members. Applying this theory she is indeed reacting as good as expected. She is baffled at somethings but still gives the benefit of the doubt to many things UB does.
She has started noticing more and more irregularities and subconsciously she is marking them. But something big will have to happen for her to open her eyes fully.

And another issue - intro of unnecessary new characters trying to attract attention

This is a false claim - dadaji was on that stage on the day the show was launched. It is a well planned entry timed quite well. 5 days after the marriage (in serial time)
The new girl - um.. i wonder if most of u missed the 30 day challenge that was released as the first description of the show? cz 30 day challenge is the premise of this show. AND on the date when CC got married for the 1st time the 30 day challenge was mentioned in the show. BY UB to the prospective 2nd bride's father.
Now i don't think this new entry is a sudden change of plans either. this was also set in motion simply 5 days back in the show's time.

Anyway the show I accept has quite many mistakes. its not perfect, but then again the TRP toppers right now r unbearable for me while I have actually started enjoying CC.


Now coming to the romance.

1 thing I will agree. It was crass at the beginning. Nope not the couple nor what they did, but the cameraman SUCKED. 1 single scene I still recoil. The 1st night when they wore blue and were in the bedroom and the way the camera panned on the specific body parts was painful to watch.. I cringed. And till today I resolutely keep away from the scene.

BUT from that moment onward I have only seen improvement on the romance department. This show managed to beautifully manage romantic scene from that moment onwards. I heard that a Navya show writer was taken on board to manage romantic scenes and it showed on screen too.


Thus instead of mindless romance it started weaving romance in to day to day mundane activities and started using it to build the understanding and bond of the husband and wife.


I know many like to crib at bold scenes. But well um.. tell me simply a husband touching a wife's tummy and tugging her waist chain, cupping her face, embracing her from the back, hugging each other..are these actually bold?

Once u put away the IPK pink tinted glasses its actually a beautiful and soft love story..

This show may even now have many wrongs and shortcomings but one thing they have perfected is the romantic aspect of it.

They have showed a relationship growing instead of showing mindless passion WHICH would have been so out of context had it been done IN this show, considering its family show genre and not a hardcore star crossed love story where such scenes would actually make sense.

Now coming to Sanaya's own acting. Well CC is too much like Sanaya herself that I think till now whatever was shown Sanaya can do blind folded. It has so far been a cakewalk for her with the character.

And hopefully future situations will arise when her responses will create scenes for Sanaya to emote and utilize her energies and talent more often.

But i would like to ask a simple question - the TRP leader Sandhya the female lead. Is she doing ANY spectacular acting? Is her character in anyway very different? So pathbreaking?

The previous TRP leader and awards winner Gopi from SNS. What did she do for acting? Or even as a character? She cried, she sobbed and she wept and she moaned. And apparently that is the best characters on TV!

So tell me is something like BLACK movie being made on TV? Where we would see a physically challenged character?

Will we see a Naina in Kal Ho Na Ho written for TV? Will we?

Where will an actress of the caliber of Sanaya find a character she can showcase her acting chops at?

Yes I agree she deserves better. BUT is there ANYTHING that is good enough for her right now on TV?
So far I cannot think of a single one..

The day they write a story like that one ArHi FF called 'Vines with thorns' by -Zara-
with a character like the Khushi in it that I will call is a script worth of Sanaya Irani.
Until then i think Sanaya is doing the best she can with the limited options available on TV.
(Arshi FF~Vines With Thorns~ Thread 1 - this is the link if any1 wants, its a physically handicapped character, beautifully written and something I have dreamed of Sanaya playing)

She doesn't want to do a weepy illiterate bahu - she has always been adamant on this
She has done 1 youth show - a college story
She has done 1 star crossed love story

Now with the limited scripts and genres available on TV what does it leave her with? Something exactly like CC isn't it?

So all I can say is Sanaya played diametrically opposed characters in her previous 2 shows. And when she had to pick a 3rd she had the option to either repeat one of them. But instead she did the only change she could.
Both her previous characters were village girls, and this one she picked from a completely differnt background. Thus she tried her best to be versatile in the very limited options on TV..

So I don't know if i answered the question or simply raised many more. But my point is that she sure deserves more. BUT on TV right now seems like there is no other option for her to go to.

I would any day prefer CC over a weepy grubby suppressed village kudi...




Well said buddy!!👏

Your response is self-explanatory and I hope the message is clear to all now..😉
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Posted: 12 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: -Unknowndesire

Bang on post TM 👏 And lets give it some time for awhile slowness surely wins the race I'm sure Sanaya will get some grand scenes to perform in the future.



Ditto Aliyah!! 👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
#37
oh.god whats happeneing.is not those group members are thhe same who keep speeding romours about sanaya and her previous co actor.gayeeb tha but now they are here again to give their "Tips" to sanaya.we all kinda knw why?🤣


Edited by mariahassin - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: princessunara

Beautifully replied di!!

Other than for Rima di & Fari and a very few others i wasn't very sure if i was to take the responses very seriously or not...Considering no1 else cribbing are visible providing support for the show on this forum in any case. So 'we still support only for Sanaya' line clearly doesn't apply to many. Not all I would like to emphasize.. there probably r many genuine responses..though most obviously not all..


Anyway I agree word to word.
(to tis reply i mean)

First thing, I would like to address an issue. Awards

case in point - ITA awards best actress popular - Sandya from DABH
Now this is not done to put any1 down, but well for me at least the authenticity of awards shows' selections was defined with this. Now had either Sanaya or DD had gotten the award, I would have accepted. yes I am only a SI fan, but nothing else needs to be said than this example on why awards shows NEVER is actually about the ACTRESS who essays a role.
It is hypocritical that an actress who elevates a mediocre role to heights is disregarded and an actress who brings down a well written role with mediocre acting is felicitated simple cz the show has TRPs.

Thus I have NO expectations towards awards.. cz awards on Indian TV awards shows are NOT given based on an actor/actress's capabilities and talent. Thus in all honestly I will say if Khushi didn't get her that, CC most definitely will not either.

Khushi was a precious jewel of a character, BUT on India TV unless a girl weeps and bends over backwards and is all serious and moans that is not considered jury awards material.
And unless a girl's show is NOT rocking the TRP charts she is not consdered as popular actress material.

THUS both CC nor Khushi falls in to either of the above said categories..

Neither character weeps, moans nor is preachy enough. So they do not comply with the norms expected of the awards winning characters..

An actress's talent nor her portrayal matters, the character does. As unfair and illogical and moronic as it is, that is the bitter truth.


Now coming to CC, well compared with Khushi & Gunjan - two characters I adored, CC seems a little less complicated at word go.

But then again the last thing I would call Gunjan is complicated. Khushi was on the other hand a very complicated character that brought a lot of excess baggage and was weighted down by it.

CC indeed came with a lot of promises which the show utterly failed to deliver for 48 episodes. Beginning with a ML that was not suited to even be a spot boy to direction to script to screen play. it SUCKED.


BUT in all honesty the past one month has been very much uplifting and they have managed to salvage most of the done damage starting with a fabulous male lead who compliments her perfectly from acting to good looks.


Now CC being too white, it does seem so right? But i would like to ask a question. Had we been that simple girl who got married and went there.. Are any of us inherently any different? She seems more compassionate than many..but then again its only to be expected considering her regard to animals, which was a main aspect of her character description.

So far we have not been delivered the full goods, but the going for the past month has been very good.
Its fun to watch.. makes me laugh.

Yes CC seems so perfectly uncomplicated. But as I said unlike Khushi who had a troubled childhood, CC was brought up in the lap of luxury and amidst showers of love and emotional and material security. Why will a girl like that even be complicated?

She is not stupid..But Why will she suspect something at first? In her world so far family simply loved, they didn't play games with other family members. Applying this theory she is indeed reacting as good as expected. She is baffled at somethings but still gives the benefit of the doubt to many things UB does.
She has started noticing more and more irregularities and subconsciously she is marking them. But something big will have to happen for her to open her eyes fully.

And another issue - intro of unnecessary new characters trying to attract attention

This is a false claim - dadaji was on that stage on the day the show was launched. It is a well planned entry timed quite well. 5 days after the marriage (in serial time)
The new girl - um.. i wonder if most of u missed the 30 day challenge that was released as the first description of the show? cz 30 day challenge is the premise of this show. AND on the date when CC got married for the 1st time the 30 day challenge was mentioned in the show. BY UB to the prospective 2nd bride's father.
Now i don't think this new entry is a sudden change of plans either. this was also set in motion simply 5 days back in the show's time.

Anyway the show I accept has quite many mistakes. its not perfect, but then again the TRP toppers right now r unbearable for me while I have actually started enjoying CC.


Now coming to the romance.

1 thing I will agree. It was crass at the beginning. Nope not the couple nor what they did, but the cameraman SUCKED. 1 single scene I still recoil. The 1st night when they wore blue and were in the bedroom and the way the camera panned on the specific body parts was painful to watch.. I cringed. And till today I resolutely keep away from the scene.

BUT from that moment onward I have only seen improvement on the romance department. This show managed to beautifully manage romantic scene from that moment onwards. I heard that a Navya show writer was taken on board to manage romantic scenes and it showed on screen too.


Thus instead of mindless romance it started weaving romance in to day to day mundane activities and started using it to build the understanding and bond of the husband and wife.


I know many like to crib at bold scenes. But well um.. tell me simply a husband touching a wife's tummy and tugging her waist chain, cupping her face, embracing her from the back, hugging each other..are these actually bold?

Once u put away the IPK pink tinted glasses its actually a beautiful and soft love story..

This show may even now have many wrongs and shortcomings but one thing they have perfected is the romantic aspect of it.

They have showed a relationship growing instead of showing mindless passion WHICH would have been so out of context had it been done IN this show, considering its family show genre and not a hardcore star crossed love story where such scenes would actually make sense.

Now coming to Sanaya's own acting. Well CC is too much like Sanaya herself that I think till now whatever was shown Sanaya can do blind folded. It has so far been a cakewalk for her with the character.

And hopefully future situations will arise when her responses will create scenes for Sanaya to emote and utilize her energies and talent more often.

But i would like to ask a simple question - the TRP leader Sandhya the female lead. Is she doing ANY spectacular acting? Is her character in anyway very different? So pathbreaking?

The previous TRP leader and awards winner Gopi from SNS. What did she do for acting? Or even as a character? She cried, she sobbed and she wept and she moaned. And apparently that is the best characters on TV!

So tell me is something like BLACK movie being made on TV? Where we would see a physically challenged character?

Will we see a Naina in Kal Ho Na Ho written for TV? Will we?

Where will an actress of the caliber of Sanaya find a character she can showcase her acting chops at?

Yes I agree she deserves better. BUT is there ANYTHING that is good enough for her right now on TV?
So far I cannot think of a single one..

The day they write a story like that one ArHi FF called 'Vines with thorns' by -Zara-
with a character like the Khushi in it that I will call is a script worth of Sanaya Irani.
Until then i think Sanaya is doing the best she can with the limited options available on TV.
(Arshi FF~Vines With Thorns~ Thread 1 - this is the link if any1 wants, its a physically handicapped character, beautifully written and something I have dreamed of Sanaya playing)

She doesn't want to do a weepy illiterate bahu - she has always been adamant on this
She has done 1 youth show - a college story
She has done 1 star crossed love story

Now with the limited scripts and genres available on TV what does it leave her with? Something exactly like CC isn't it?

So all I can say is Sanaya played diametrically opposed characters in her previous 2 shows. And when she had to pick a 3rd she had the option to either repeat one of them. But instead she did the only change she could.
Both her previous characters were village girls, and this one she picked from a completely differnt background. Thus she tried her best to be versatile in the very limited options on TV..

So I don't know if i answered the question or simply raised many more. But my point is that she sure deserves more. BUT on TV right now seems like there is no other option for her to go to.

I would any day prefer CC over a weepy grubby suppressed village kudi...




Well said Sunara😳
Thanks for the mature response👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Looking at the way award shows disregarded sanaya's performance in her previous show n gave awards to every tom,dick and harry featuring in TRP toppers,I never expected sanz to win any awards for CC. Moreover sanz said that the character is so close 2 her real life persona that she doesn't have to put in any effort,so I never expected some pathbreaking character too. Anyways Indian TV does not provide the platform to do pathbreaking work,that happens in films only! CC is supposed to be a light-hearted show with its lead protagonist questioning orthodox values and I think v have started getting that...even the media regularly appreciates the character of CC. The start of the show was poor and v clung 2 d show 4 sanz but today m happy to say,v have many more reasons to love the show. As for CC becoming a tigress,yes that will happen when she gets 2 know UB's truth but v have to be patient or that cz right now the makers r just familiarizing us to every character in the show
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: lrlpam

Looking at the way award shows disregarded sanaya's performance in her previous show n gave awards to every tom,dick and harry featuring in TRP toppers,I never expected sanz to win any awards for CC. Moreover sanz said that the character is so close 2 her real life persona that she doesn't have to put in any effort,so I never expected some pathbreaking character too. Anyways Indian TV does not provide the platform to do pathbreaking work,that happens in films only! CC is supposed to be a light-hearted show with its lead protagonist questioning orthodox values and I think v have started getting that...even the media regularly appreciates the character of CC. The start of the show was poor and v clung 2 d show 4 sanz but today m happy to say,v have many more reasons to love the show. As for CC becoming a tigress,yes that will happen when she gets 2 know UB's truth but v have to be patient or that cz right now the makers r just familiarizing us to every character in the show



Well said👏

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