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Siesta

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Posted: 12 years ago

#11

I have never watched the show you mentioned but I agree to the point that this show should not be uni dimensional and focussed only on the UB - chanchan relationship.

Even before the show began I wanted that the male lead and his relationship with Chanchan and his mother should also be an important part of the show. That is another matter that 2 weeks into the show and i was wishing the marriage happens fast and Manav is relegated to the background.

Now with the entry of Anuj, the CVs have 2 leads who are good actors and have good chemistry...they need to use that. Everyone knows its not a love story but that doesn't mean it cannot be an important aspect of the show. I want more depth and maturity to the ChanMan relationship and that can come with a separation.

The story at this point has a lot of potential and the PH finally has a great ensemble cast. Hope the utilize it and create a well balanced show with drama, romance and comedy.

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Oyster

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Posted: 12 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: DiyaS
I am not sure about this ... the central theme of the show is about the clash between two generations of feisty women. Diluting it with a love story might not be doing justice to either theme. Besides, Sanaya has already done two love stories back to back, and been successful in both ... it's time she did something different and gave it her full focus. and that is what she wants to do too. So I respect her decision to try something very different, and would like to see her succeed in this genre.

I wouldn't mind seeing Manav as a strong but silent support ... I don't even mind him getting good screen space ... but I want Sanaya aka Chhanchhan to be on centrestage. With the new Manav, we can already see the improvement in Manav's characterization ... and the love story already seems more real and believable. Earlier, viewers never connected with the love story at all. So now that problem is taken care of, I think the love story part should be there, but secondary to the main theme.

I haven't seen KavyaAnjali, so don't really have any idea about that show.

Diya if I did not watch Kavyanjali, trust me I'd have never come up with this idea. I have no reservations in accepting the fact that the overarching theme or at least the theme that was used to promote the show is the clash between two generations of women. I don't even think that this is a boring theme. However, I would not agree that giving significance to the love story would necessarily mean undermining it. Conversely, I believe that they can use it in favor of or to complement their central theme. See I even have problem in accepting that there's a single central theme because you'll never find a central theme in any critically acclaimed piece of art. Any interpretation/critique of a good literary piece would usually say "the themes are..." rather than "the central theme is..." I am not sure if I am able to clearly convey my thoughts here but my point is that a good writer can use multiple themes to complement each other in building the plotline.

For instance, not even once I felt that any of the themes in KavyAnjali was central. KA had so many intertwined themes (the blind faith of a son in his mother, the selfless love of girl, the misunderstood friendship between a girl and a guy, the endless hatred of a biological son for his mother, etc) intelligently developed to tell us a story. I felt every subplot was so central to the main plot; hence, I was never bored watching any of the scenes be it between Kavya and his mother, Kavya and Anjali, Kavya and his brothers, Anjali and her father... The makers of IPPKND began with something somewhat similar when we first saw Anjali and Arnav's relationship but they destroyed it beyond repair.

The two themes that I am suggesting should develop together not independent of each other. In this case, I don't think it would mean diluting one or the other. Now imagine Manav has this blind faith in his mom because to him she gifted him ChanChan. The love story of ChanChan and Manav was rushed but I hope they let us see the development of their bond post marriage. Only then we'll see get to see so much depth in CC's character. Imagine her dilemma between choosing her husband's happiness and remaining true to her principles. If we don't see the strengthening of Manav and CC's bond, such a scene will have minimal impact.

Like yourself, I completely support Sanaya in signing CC. I am happy especially because she got to do three contrasting characters in the initial phase of her career. But trust me Diya if the plotline doesn't become gripping the show will sink in no time. Excellent actors is just one part of a show's potential success.

AND you better WATCH KA. I have always maintained that due to their working conditions, Indian TV cannot bring forth a show that leaves a mark in history despite the fact that they have some awesome actors. Not sure if you have seen Humsafar. That show has stuck to my mind and will never lose its value because it was so amazingly done. The only Indian show that I can say would be of Humsafar's league is none other than Kavyanjali. There are few shortcomings but that's because KA ran 5-days a week while Humsafar had one episode per week. I wouldn't be surprised if the makers of KA surpassed Humsafar if they got to work under the same conditions.

You should also watch KA cuz only then you'd see how the makers of CC could take their show to a whole new level.

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RavissanteSanny

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Posted: 12 years ago

#13

love Sanaya & Anuj chemistry

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Oyster

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Posted: 12 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: kairavi.
I understand where you're coming from and while the story wasn't really taking off I too was craving a stonger love angle than the the cvs were offering, thought it was strange because at the same time I didn't want to see Fk performing those scenes.
Now though I've changed my mind simply because we have a show in which every single cast member is talented and I'm looking froward to their interactions and sub plots within the frame of the main story...I think Manthan is going to be fun to watch. Sorry I haven't seen the KavyanAnjali show you mentioned so I can't make comparisons. I'm actually really looking forward to Sanaya in a totally different role and if the saas-bahu drama can be done effectively then I don't feel a need for the romance angle to be major. Of course there has to be some because ChanMan are a couple but I like the idea of a light story and don't want an angst filled separation so there would be no need to focus on the love. Manav already stood up to his mom for CC and so his love has been proven. I would prefer the story to be Manav supporting CC whilst keeping his mom's respect in place but not blindly following either. Once Sanaya signed the show and told us what the premise of the show is from that day I have been looking forward to the main storyline. Supriyaji has already had a chance to shine as the manipulative UB, she's had amazing scenes and dialogues and now I want to see Sanaya get the same. Awesome scenes and awesome dialogues. I also wouldn't be averse to a little bit of my resignation letter Khushi coming out but perhaps later when UB has really pushed the situation to the limit.

The makers have said that this is a lighter non regressive saas-bahu show and perhaps it will deal more with the characters and I hope the cv's will give each character more depth. Manav and UB have been very well defined but CC really hasn't yet..so far she' a sweet girl who stands up for what she believes in but I'd like to see her as more rounded and someone who does make mistakes.

I think this cast if supported well by hte creative team can give us such a product that we won't be looking for anything else.

I agree with almost every point you are making. We did indeed get what we were promised in the first place. So no the show is not a let down from that angle. However, there's no harm in making changes to the blueprint of the show if something is not working or if something can be enhanced. Trust me the depth in CC's character cannot be showcased if her relationship with Manav is not foregrounded. Think about it. Marriage is the central element of this show. It's all about how CC stands by her principles without harming her marriage. And CC's marriage is incomplete without Manav. The nature of Indian tv shows is that they run for as long as possible. I would say it's impossible to make a show run for a long time with a single central theme. You have to keep shifting between several things to keep the audience glued to the television. I don't think anyone would look forward to endless tiffs between UB and CC 4 days a week for a whole year or even more.

When FK played Manav, even I was looking forward to CC's marriage so that the story begins. I would have never wanted them to foreground CC and Manav's love story simply because FK was incapable. We all agree that we never felt the spark in SI and FK's scenes. But that's no longer the case. We have a polished actor playing Manav now. It would be such a waste not to utilize him. Don't you think?

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Oyster

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Posted: 12 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: capricorn2006

I have never watched the show you mentioned but I agree to the point that this show should not be uni dimensional and focussed only on the UB - chanchan relationship.

Even before the show began I wanted that the male lead and his relationship with Chanchan and his mother should also be an important part of the show. That is another matter that 2 weeks into the show and i was wishing the marriage happens fast and Manav is relegated to the background.

Now with the entry of Anuj, the CVs have 2 leads who are good actors and have good chemistry...they need to use that. Everyone knows its not a love story but that doesn't mean it cannot be an important aspect of the show. I want more depth and maturity to the ChanMan relationship and that can come with a separation.

The story at this point has a lot of potential and the PH finally has a great ensemble cast. Hope the utilize it and create a well balanced show with drama, romance and comedy.

Exactly my point. I never brought this up until FK played Manav because the actor back then was incapable. Anuj now is very much capable. Hence, I raised the topic.

@bold: Thank you for speaking out my mind. Kavyanjali had an excellent cast. Interestingly, the lead actor was such a let down in KA too and he was replaced after 25 episodes by Eijaz Khan. With Eijaz's entry as Kavya, the show was complete. Perfection at its peak I'd say. Every actor was such a perfect match for his or her character and the best part was that the director utilized every actor to his or her full potential.

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Siesta

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Posted: 12 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: Oyster

Exactly my point. I never brought this up until FK played Manav because the actor back then was incapable. Anuj now is very much capable. Hence, I raised the topic.

@bold: Thank you for speaking out my mind. Kavyanjali had an excellent cast. Interestingly, the lead actor was such a let down in KA too and he was replaced after 25 episodes by Eijaz Khan. With Eijaz's entry as Kavya, the show was complete. Perfection at its peak I'd say. Every actor was such a perfect match for his or her character and the best part was that the director utilized every actor to his or her full potential.

I never watched it but I do know it was a popular show and Eijaz and Anita ( i think ?) were a hit pair.

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golpokobita

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Posted: 12 years ago

#17

Very nice post.

I haven't watched KA.. but your proposition seems fair to me. Although it was made clear from the beginning that CC would not be a love story, rather a fight between two generations/ ideologies, which is fine with me... but I believe, at the same time, by highlighting the love between Manav and CC, the main theme could be made even more graceful.

The MIL in the show is stronger with all supports from the family, resources and intelligence (which came with her age).. So, by creating a strong love relation between Manav and CC, CC's strength could be raised and the two protagonists (MIL and DIL) could be brought in to the equal footing.

Moreover, since the main leads (Sanaya and Anuj) have already shown very good chemistry and acting skill as lovers, it would be an added advantage for the show to get more viewers, from younger generation specially.

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Siesta

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Posted: 12 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: DiyaS
I am not sure about this ... the central theme of the show is about the clash between two generations of feisty women. Diluting it with a love story might not be doing justice to either theme. Besides, Sanaya has already done two love stories back to back, and been successful in both ... it's time she did something different and gave it her full focus. and that is what she wants to do too. So I respect her decision to try something very different, and would like to see her succeed in this genre.

I wouldn't mind seeing Manav as a strong but silent support ... I don't even mind him getting good screen space ... but I want Sanaya aka Chhanchhan to be on centrestage. With the new Manav, we can already see the improvement in Manav's characterization ... and the love story already seems more real and believable. Earlier, viewers never connected with the love story at all. So now that problem is taken care of, I think the love story part should be there, but secondary to the main theme.

I haven't seen KavyaAnjali, so don't really have any idea about that show.

While I agree with you about not changing the premise of the show...I have doubts on how the execution of the clash between UB and chanchan will be if the focus is only on that. We already know this is not a very lighthearted take a la khoobsurat because UB's character is too vindictive for that. Chanchan is no Gopi bahu so it cannot go that way too. My fear is that if the focus is just on UB and her bahus then the show will regress into a kitchen politics one...one in which every day UB schemes to let down ChCh and how she counters that with the other bahus siding with one or the other. That is something which will not interest me and i am sure most of Sanaya's fans too.

On the other hand if they show how UB- Chanchan clash impacts ChanMan relationship and how both of them separately and together counter that, it would be more interesting to watch. And of course the family drama can be a backdrop. Another thing is that the Sarabhais need to stay in the picture as well.

Edited by capricorn2006 - 12 years ago

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Aysha

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Posted: 12 years ago

#19

I am looking forward to a clash of the MIL-DIL and the difference than the usual as that is what this show is about

but i am always a sucker for romance and especially now that i have seen a preview of Sanaya and Anuj in action (like today) im totally hoping for a lot more romance in the show...as it will be good to show the husband and wife bond too!!! also im sure most shows need romance and now with two really good actors who are comfortable with each other they can totally pull off romance and be lovable aswell as it fit perfectly into the storyline

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OmNaMaSteOm

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Posted: 12 years ago

#20

Honestly speaking if they are going to have too many Uma Ben dadagiri scenes its slightly putting me off to watch the show. I keep skipping those scenes off most of the time like I used to skip Anjali & Mami scenes of IPK fame.

The romance between Manav & Chhan Chhan is like the missed kisses between ArHi. Uma Ben is like Anjali & Mami who keep interfering in their lives. For once they should be allowed to do romance.

Uma Ben gives me the creeps. I surely dont want to have a MIL like her to ruin my life. The missing element for me in the show is balance & feeling complete about a character. I have not seen any scene where in Chhan Chhan dominates the scene all I see is Uma Ben dominating.

I have seen Uma Ben's only negative & hypocrite shade of her character. I have not seen anything positive about her. I feel Manav is too dumb rather the whole house is dumb not to see that Uma Ben has so many double standards. Within seconds one finds out the motive of an activity is negative. Uma Ben should not be reminding me of Anjali or Mami in any way.

Even now I dont feel like watching the show I saw few pics showing romance hence I saw the episode or I would not have even done that. I find the balance off in the scenes.

Being Sanaya fan does mean watch an random show she acts in. I am glad she is doing something different but with so much bickering going on I have doubts where the show leads too.

The little bit chemistry they showed of Anuj & Sanaya was lovely something which I could not see when Farhan was on board.

KavyAnjali was a lovely show. But that was not the ultimate there are shows which can exceed it too.

Sorry for ranting Sonya I am damn pissed with Uma Ben's character for sure.

Edited by Senorita Sanaya - 12 years ago