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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hi, I have not seen the show you mention so no comparisons with that but I do agree, CC and Manav story will have to be an integral part of this show alongside the central theme, the friction between UB and CC. And for that to succeed they will need to establish and work on the growing strength of Manav/CC story. It cannot be relegated to the background. I'm not too sure on the intense love story part, It would be refreshing if they keep this real as opposed to the million other so called 'intense' love stories floating on telly, don't you think?

I agree with capricorn2006 who says, the story at this point has a lot of potential and its truly in the creative team's hand what they do with it and how they take it forward will determine the fate of the show. Now with competent actors on board, getting the focus back on the right things shouldn't be that difficult.

Although set up as a show essentially rallying around the UB-CC clash...that alone will not sell nor will it remain interesting beyond a certain point of time unless they intend it to be that and regress into a typical saas-bahu show where the show is reduced to CC's daily struggles and UB never ending vindictiveness against her. I say vindictiveness because that's what it is, I do not see this woman changing for good; they have made her extreme more than a lot of those other MIL.s(purely an assumption based on what little I have seen) because here she is not only playing with CC's life but actually directly with her son's without realizing the consequences of her actions. She lacks perception and I doubt CC alone will be able to bring change in her. So, yes if they want this to be realistic, Manav will have to play a bigger role., because only he can inflict the wound that will hurt her the most. And guide her towards a redemption. UB will in her quest to take down CC end up hurting a lot more people...and she is truly ignorant of that fact.

She is such a dry character, may be a little bit of humor would have made her more interesting. Right now, I find her the most one dimensional of the lot. I'm probably in the minority when I say this. I'm definitely not keen on watching a typical saas bahu show,... Hope they stick to looking at the same thing and projecting it differently as they have done so far. Having said that, for now, until CC realises what UB is upto, UB's tricks will not stop and that will be the typical. Its such a fine line...and these guys do goof up at times but lets give them time to settle down...It better be different once the battle lines have been drawn on both sides.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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@spirit

Agree with you on the point about UB being too extreme and that is the main reason I would not like this to be just the story of UB and Chanchan 's conflict. If she had been grey and this was just a lighthearted ideological clash, then it would have been fine. But here I don't see any positivity in her so far. She is willing to play with her son's life just to take revenge on Chanchan. You make a good point that Manav needs to play a big role here...its just not about changing UB's ideas about pallus and dowry. Its much bigger than that.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Senorita Sanaya

Honestly speaking if they are going to have too many Uma Ben dadagiri scenes its slightly putting me off to watch the show. I keep skipping those scenes off most of the time like I used to skip Anjali & Mami scenes of IPK fame.


The romance between Manav & Chhan Chhan is like the missed kisses between ArHi. Uma Ben is like Anjali & Mami who keep interfering in their lives. For once they should be allowed to do romance.

Uma Ben gives me the creeps. I surely dont want to have a MIL like her to ruin my life. The missing element for me in the show is balance & feeling complete about a character. I have not seen any scene where in Chhan Chhan dominates the scene all I see is Uma Ben dominating.

I have seen Uma Ben's only negative & hypocrite shade of her character. I have not seen anything positive about her. I feel Manav is too dumb rather the whole house is dumb not to see that Uma Ben has so many double standards. Within seconds one finds out the motive of an activity is negative. Uma Ben should not be reminding me of Anjali or Mami in any way.

Even now I dont feel like watching the show I saw few pics showing romance hence I saw the episode or I would not have even done that. I find the balance off in the scenes.

Being Sanaya fan does mean watch an random show she acts in. I am glad she is doing something different but with so much bickering going on I have doubts where the show leads too.
The little bit chemistry they showed of Anuj & Sanaya was lovely something which I could not see when Farhan was on board.

KavyAnjali was a lovely show. But that was not the ultimate there are shows which can exceed it too.


Sorry for ranting Sonya I am damn pissed with Uma Ben's character for sure.

I quit agree with this.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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^^ Absolutely! It's much bigger than that. Her goodness seems like a charade even when it is extended to those you'd expect her to genuinely care of. So she has bigger problems!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I watched KA few episodes from the beginning .. as usual i could not complete any ekta serials.. so cant comment on that much ..


but in CC now they can surely have a very strong romantic track .. Strong means.. the way a good husband can support and love his wife and family .. They should utilized every bit of this two good actors to show another aspects of the serial too..

I am keeping my hopes on Channel and PH now .. If they saw their recent episodes they should really think about this angle also ..


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Oyster


Diya if I did not watch Kavyanjali, trust me I'd have never come up with this idea. I have no reservations in accepting the fact that the overarching theme or at least the theme that was used to promote the show is the clash between two generations of women. I don't even think that this is a boring theme. However, I would not agree that giving significance to the love story would necessarily mean undermining it. Conversely, I believe that they can use it in favor of or to complement their central theme. See I even have problem in accepting that there's a single central theme because you'll never find a central theme in any critically acclaimed piece of art. Any interpretation/critique of a good literary piece would usually say "the themes are..." rather than "the central theme is..." I am not sure if I am able to clearly convey my thoughts here but my point is that a good writer can use multiple themes to complement each other in building the plotline.

For instance, not even once I felt that any of the themes in KavyAnjali was central. KA had so many intertwined themes (the blind faith of a son in his mother, the selfless love of girl, the misunderstood friendship between a girl and a guy, the endless hatred of a biological son for his mother, etc) intelligently developed to tell us a story. I felt every subplot was so central to the main plot; hence, I was never bored watching any of the scenes be it between Kavya and his mother, Kavya and Anjali, Kavya and his brothers, Anjali and her father... The makers of IPPKND began with something somewhat similar when we first saw Anjali and Arnav's relationship but they destroyed it beyond repair.

The two themes that I am suggesting should develop together not independent of each other. In this case, I don't think it would mean diluting one or the other. Now imagine Manav has this blind faith in his mom because to him she gifted him ChanChan. The love story of ChanChan and Manav was rushed but I hope they let us see the development of their bond post marriage. Only then we'll see get to see so much depth in CC's character. Imagine her dilemma between choosing her husband's happiness and remaining true to her principles. If we don't see the strengthening of Manav and CC's bond, such a scene will have minimal impact.

Like yourself, I completely support Sanaya in signing CC. I am happy especially because she got to do three contrasting characters in the initial phase of her career. But trust me Diya if the plotline doesn't become gripping the show will sink in no time. Excellent actors is just one part of a show's potential success.

AND you better WATCH KA. I have always maintained that due to their working conditions, Indian TV cannot bring forth a show that leaves a mark in history despite the fact that they have some awesome actors. Not sure if you have seen Humsafar. That show has stuck to my mind and will never lose its value because it was so amazingly done. The only Indian show that I can say would be of Humsafar's league is none other than Kavyanjali. There are few shortcomings but that's because KA ran 5-days a week while Humsafar had one episode per week. I wouldn't be surprised if the makers of KA surpassed Humsafar if they got to work under the same conditions.

You should also watch KA cuz only then you'd see how the makers of CC could take their show to a whole new level.



You just sold me on Kavyanjali ... I love shows which deal with multiple conflicting emotions, and this sound good ... will try to catch it for sure. Any links where I can find the show?

I agree with you ... especially with the bold. What I meant was that I don't want the love story to overtake everything else ... that's what happened in San's last show, and what a disaster that was. There can be intertwining themes, in fact there should be ... I am also keen to see the related stories of Manav's three brothers and their wives, and a side track of Manvi falling in love with a boy from a liberal family like Chhanchhan's ... and the different ways that CC and UB deal with that .
With so many characters, they can have many sub-plots and keep the show going without stretching it like a rubberband.

I wanted attention on the Manav-CC romance before the marriage, because there had to be some overwhelming reason for CC to agree to marry into that family ... unfortunately we could not get that for reasons we all know 🤢😡 ... thank god that reason is out, so now the cv's are concentrating on making the romance part believable ... that Manav-CC are madly in love and feel they can take on the world in that state .. it happens! 😆 That is part of the main theme, after all ... how did CC even end up in such a conservative family, when her own is so liberal and open-minded. If you remember, I had made a post ages ago, saying exactly that ... HOW will CC and the Sarabhais agree for this marriage ... that was even more mystifying than Umaben agreeing. If the love story had been convincing like last night's episode was, we would have had no trouble believing that Manav-CC were totally lost in love.
So we DO need a convincing love story ... am with you on that one ... I think we also need a supportive Manav ... that again goes with CC's character, she will expect her husband to trust her and be supportive. But more than an intense love story, cv's need to show very strong mental compatibility between Manav and Chhanchhan ... not straight off, because every marriage takes time to settle down, even a love marriage ... but that should develop along with the problem between CC and UB. I don't mind problems between CC-M, even temporary separation engineered by UB ... that will create conflicts in CC's mind as to the right path to follow ... and will make the story believable.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: capricorn2006


I never watched it but I do know it was a popular show and Eijaz and Anita ( i think ?) were a hit pair.



Oh yes they were. I recently found out that they were real-life couple too. They had flawless chemistry!

If you are interested in giving it a shot, here's the link to all the episodes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svG6tHKBfUg

Remember though that Eijaz Khan joined after about 30 episodes. So initially you'll see a bad male lead. But you need to watch those episodes to understand the story. Besides, the rest of the cast are awesome and the story's sooo gripping so you won't lose interest. When Eijaz becomes Kavya, the show becomes complete. Perfection at its peak I'd say. See this is what I mean when I say CC has to develop in other aspects too... Talented actors with perfect chemistry cannot make a historical show on their own. Every aspect of the show has to be taken care of.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: golpokobita

Very nice post.


I haven't watched KA.. but your proposition seems fair to me. Although it was made clear from the beginning that CC would not be a love story, rather a fight between two generations/ ideologies, which is fine with me... but I believe, at the same time, by highlighting the love between Manav and CC, the main theme could be made even more graceful.

The MIL in the show is stronger with all supports from the family, resources and intelligence (which came with her age).. So, by creating a strong love relation between Manav and CC, CC's strength could be raised and the two protagonists (MIL and DIL) could be brought in to the equal footing.

Moreover, since the main leads (Sanaya and Anuj) have already shown very good chemistry and acting skill as lovers, it would be an added advantage for the show to get more viewers, from younger generation specially.



Thank you for your input. You have made an important point here. Manav's love would be the only reason for CC to stay back and face all the challenges. Otherwise, as a modern girl who does not believe in mindless compromises, CC would never stay with her inlaws. We all know that someone like CC would prefer divorce over living in a place that is close to hell for her. So like you said, they could highlight that Manav's love is not only the reason for CC's decision to stay back but also her strength to put up with UB.

Oh Yes. Sanaya and Anuj are sooo very capable of kindling that spark!

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