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Posted: 8 years ago
Some of Arjun's dialogues today (especially pyaar kam ho jayega?) and what he had at the beginning of S2 (give me divorce, give me poison) don't quite match.

Or perhaps it's the way the writers have framed his dialogues. 😕

Feels like Stockholm Syndrome from some angles (SD's post), but he doesn't give me that vibe from certain other aspects.

Really dunno. I iz confused soul 😛

Nice summary of the dialogues you've made H 😊
Edited by aekiel - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
I actually liked today's episode, wasn't a filler imo. It gave a good insight into Arjun, Maya and Samay and their respective relationships. Probably one of those rare episodes where I felt bad for both Maya and Arjun. Jen NEEDS to stop portraying Maya so brilliantly, it becomes such a hindrance to understand Maya's character because she's in Jennifer's body. 😳
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

Maya has committed her crimes, esp murders/accidents in a fool proof way.. hence the police haven't been able to get her in all these years..

Hence, a masterplan would be required to make her confess to her crimes...that's the only way Ashwin's murder case can be solved...Mauritius pundit case toh ab Tak kisi ko doubt bhi nahi...😆

Hence my doubts that is Samay a secret agent?...who was on Maya's trail in her past crimes...fell in love with her...got mauled by her...n is now back on her trail?..

Or could be a shrink too...

But plain psycho???...that would be so anti climactic, nahi???😲


Secret agent is an awesome theory but don't explain his monologues. Khushi, if your big picture prediction comes true, I will truly bow before you. Right now you are the only one who still holds on to the theory that Samay is here to double cross maya 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: aekiel

What do you guys make of VM's buri and bimari dialogue?

Can't say I agree with it entirely


I found that dialogue very interesting today. Vandana is the official future forecaster in this show especially about maya. Vandana's gut feelings about maya always come true. You know like the mother is always right. That dialogue makes me think the writers might be taking the evil route for maya and not the sickness route. Also the Maya's I don't want to be bad dialogue for the first time shows she knows what she is doing which won't happen if you are sick. With the maya-jhanvi scene maya showed first signs of regret so maybe they intend to redeem her at some point?? Arjun the most confused soul. None of his dialogues today made sense to me after the "I want divorce" phase. Maybe he does have the syndrome khushi is talking about 😕
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: .annihilation.

I actually liked today's episode, wasn't a filler imo. It gave a good insight into Arjun, Maya and Samay and their respective relationships. Probably one of those rare episodes where I felt bad for both Maya and Arjun. Jen NEEDS to stop portraying Maya so brilliantly, it becomes such a hindrance to understand Maya's character because she's in Jennifer's body. 😳


I feel nothing for Arjun these days 😆 He is totally lost on me ever since the rape frame up. It is almost like the Arjun who woke up after the sedation is a different Arjun and the old Arjun is still sleeping lost somewhere.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Didn't maya have cameras installed in her house from day 1? Why do I remember her checking her mother's activities through phone/laptop in the initial episodes?
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Posted: 8 years ago
^^ Penkie, I most definitely do remember that. Ruk jao, I was already looking for that episode and the scene. 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
If you find Husna, please post the episode number and exact scene, there. (please) (you know where)
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: BIaddict


Secret agent is an awesome theory but don't explain his monologues. Khushi, if your big picture prediction comes true, I will truly bow before you. Right now you are the only one who still holds on to the theory that Samay is here to double cross maya 😆


Yes Reena...monologues is the only obstacle in my theory...I simply can't seem to find a justification for that...😕

Actually, with each monologue of Samay, I find my theory sinking deeper n deeper in quicksand...
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Posted: 8 years ago


Tum kisi ki dawaa nahi ban sakte'

Ever since Maya told that to Arjun, that dialogue's been bugging me so much. If that'd be reality and I'd be present in that scenario, I'd go up to May and tell her, jo khud zehr ho uski koi kya dawaa banega?' It's a different case that'd I have called upon my death though. 😆 Sounding too harsh and critical, am I? No. Allow me to explain how. Firstly, this notion or the idea about one person becoming another person's cure is a farcical and fallacious one to the core, in my opinion. What am I about to explain is basically meant for real life situations and people, of course but then isn't fiction inspired from real? It is.

For instance, let's assume a hypothetical scenario where you're physically sick. Say, you have a headache or a stomach ache or just about any pain in any area of your body. What do you do? Do you expect your parents, your family, your friends, your boyfriend or anyone else in your general vicinity to somehow just heal' or cure' you from your sickness? No, you don't. You consult a doctor and get yourself treated.

Another instance, you just suffered a terrible accident, are critically injured and nearly escaped death. Now, you're not in a position to get yourself to the Hospital in order to save your life. It becomes the moral, civil and human responsibility of anyone who finds you in that condition to see it to that you're taken to a Hospital.

One more, let's say you're diagnosed to be having cancer, potentially in it's critical stage. There's a chance of recovery but a bleak one. What do you do? Go upto your parents, your family, your husband, your friend, your boyfriend, any of your loved one and ask them to be your cure? Tell them that they're responsible for your healing? No. You don't. You do whatever is that you can to beat cancer if it's beatable or just accept your fate.

Similarly, mental illness of any kind is like the cancer of your brain, your mind. The kind of cancer it is, its stage, its degree, its criticality, its treatment, they all depend on what that said mental illness exactly is. To say or expect or demand your cure or healing from another human being because he/she loves you or cares for you is a notion that should be nipped right in the bud. Let's for a moment step into the shoes of the person you're a responsibility of. Do we realize the incredible amount of pressure we're placing on them? Do we realize the magnitude of guilt they'll feel if they're to ever fail in any of their efforts? Do we realize the extent of confusion they might feel because even though they try so hard, they can't understand everything there is to it all? Can we fathom the intensity of the pain they must feel because they know they're helpless after a point and they can't bear seeing their loved one in so much agony?

Am I suggesting that loved ones of people suffering from mental illnesses do not have any responsibility towards them? HELL NO. Families, friends, loved one's, coworkers etc have all the moral and civil responsibility on their shoulders to be empathetic to their pain, understand them as much as they can, stand by them, stick to them and support them in any and every manner they can. Not to shun them, not to ridicule or mock them, not to insult them or label them, not to discourage them and never to make their condition or situation worse than it already may be.

This is precisely why I liked yesterday's episode, particularly the Jhanvi-Maya and Arjun-Vandana bits. Because in those particular scenes, all I could see was a daughter and a son breaking down in front of their respective mothers, letting it all the pent up emotions out, just pouring their hearts out to them. I absolutely LOVED how Jhanvi despite everything Maya subjected Jhanvi to, she was only a mother to her in that moment. Shedding tears with her, feeling her pain just as much and just giving her the comfort she could provide even in that paralyzed condition of hers. Exactly the same for Vandana, she wasn't judgemental, she wasn't critical, she was just being there for Arjun and letting her son pour his heart out. All of it may not make complete sense with the context of the story and the characters but like I said, it didn't matter to me as all I could see was when everyone and everything failed two people, they found home in their respective loved ones; parents.

Now, I may think that Maya's a psychopath, in all probability, a born psychopath. Others may think her mental illness/personality disorder is something different. Whichever the case might be, I believe we ought to unanimously agree that Maya's an unpredictable, dangerous and savage person to be with. A lethal combination of beemari (disease) and burayi (evil) with burayi taking up a greater precedence and proportion over beemari. Given everything Maya's subjected Arjun and his family to, given every criminal deed of hers, given how no human being is capable of healing' or curing' her by themselves alone, I'd not expect Arjun to continue to stand by Maya. That's extremely unfair and wrong on so many levels. And more so because Arjun has tried every possible thing (except for one thing; taking her to a psychiatrist/psychologist but that's something we don't know if he ever did or at least tried to) he could for Maya. Despite it all, he's still willing to be there for her in whatever way he can even if it means to be forever remain physically and mental caged.


The fact that remains is Maya's case has gone far beyond anyone's help, support or understanding, whatever her condition may be, she NEEDS to be institutionalised in a mental care facility/asylum because she's a danger to herself and everyone around her. Once she's been diagnosed, and treated if her condition is curable can it be determined whether or not she's capable of leading a normal life from thereon.

Edited by .annihilation. - 8 years ago

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