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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Heema22

In us people get only x max and 31 off and half day off for Xmas eve and New Year's Eve , that's all . Shwetha you have long break which is unheard of .

No one 😭 what happened to you all .? 🤗



You get only a couple of days off?! Is it because you belong to the medical field? Because in IT, what we experience is people are off sometime in the second week of December and come back only in the New Year. That has been the pattern.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Heema22


Wow what a freedom.. what did you do and did you enjoy it ? . Everyone needs this experience once in a while . Tell me about it .
Shari Kapoor was my favorite. I think he is only Kapoor I really liked . Very sad . He declined after his wife's death . Big lost. I had seen him in person he was very handsome .



I did enjoy but it also got boring after some time. I found that I would wake up earlier than usual and generally had a lot more time on hands. I was working from home and would manage to complete work with enough time to while away.

I refused to cook for myself. Thinking up options for a single person is so painful! I would make myself a salad or a sandwich. Or eat something outside. The first couple of days were awesome 😃 Then everything became boring. Having people pottering around is important.

Now that they're back, I wish they would take another trip 🤔 Such are humans. Permanently dissatisfied.
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Posted: 7 years ago
I'll have to come back for responding to the remaining. Out of time, unfortunately. See you guys soon!
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: AllThingsNice



You get only a couple of days off?! Is it because you belong to the medical field? Because in IT, what we experience is people are off sometime in the second week of December and come back only in the New Year. That has been the pattern.


I have no time off . I was talking about " in general ". I don't know anyone in IT . But my family members have Xmas and New Years off . This year X mas eve and New Year's Eve falls on Sunday so they are missing out on half day off . My sisters and husband taking vacation that wk because they must take time off or loose it .IT in India and in US are in totally different league.
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Posted: 7 years ago

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I did enjoy but it also got boring after some time. I found that I would wake up earlier than usual and generally had a lot more time on hands. I was working from home and would manage to complete work with enough time to while away.

I refused to cook for myself. Thinking up options for a single person is so painful! I would make myself a salad or a sandwich. Or eat something outside. The first couple of days were awesome 😃 Then everything became boring. Having people pottering around is important.

Now that they're back, I wish they would take another trip 🤔 Such are humans. Permanently dissatisfied.


So cute 🤣 and so typical reaction 🤣
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: AllThingsNice

I'll have to come back for responding to the remaining. Out of time, unfortunately. See you guys soon!

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Good promise 🤗
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Posted: 7 years ago

Back! As per promise 😎


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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Heema22

1Aggressiveness .

Passive-aggressive and hostile behavior.This upsets people. You can sense it on the roads, in shops, in cinemas, in offices.Indians who have spent time even briefly in the West are able to sense the offensive nature of India better. Non-Indians are plain shocked. Any interaction with Indians can get violent within moments. The aggression is mostly verbal, but just as bad as physical hostility.This makes people want to leave and never return.

2Unchanging politics .

There are ( what I know )six national parties on the Election Commission's roster, 54 state parties and 1,392 registered unrecognised parties. There are 39 parties with members in the Lok Sabha, 29 in the Rajya Sabha [mostly the same as in the Lok Sabha]. Yet, when you try to reach the parties with a problem, it's remarkably the same everywhere. They all have a jaded air. They all think they know more. They all jump to it when you're willing to fund.

The narrowness of Indian political parties is like a sledgehammer blow when you actually face it. It drives people away.


3.Anti-everything families

Such attitude is passed down from generations. Families could be anti-women's progress, anti-Muslim, anti-Christian, anti-Hindu, anti-meat eaters, anti-free thinkers, anti-anything. The first chance youngsters get in such families, they leave. Mostly on grounds of further study. Few return after they complete their course.


Having experienced much of this first-hand, I agree with everything. I know that each of these points is true across India regardless of North or South India. But hopefully, with the younger generations being more exposed, aware and "global", things will improve. This is my hope. Shake me awake if you think I am being too idealistic.

Edit: About the family structure bit, Shweta and Pari might disagree but I think we give more than necessary importance to family. I know I will be misunderstood for saying this. But understand that I am not saying that we should abandon our families or that our families should abandon us. I am just saying that many kids get trapped in this popular and deeply flawed indian narrative of "parents are God" and "parents should never be disobeyed". Parents can be the best things to happen to us. But the truth is not all parents care selflessly about their kids. After a point in life, they really and genuinely do not know what is good for their kids. And yet, they don't let go of that tight grip on them. As if the child is their property to own and use as they please. Shalini is a case in point and one that I have seen very closely.

Parents are in their own little egoistic world, very often. They are on an ego trip and often lose sight of what is good for the kid. Not all of them move with times. Not all are friends with their children. Not all are equipped to be parents. This is the sad truth. Education makes a huge difference. But then, again, not all educated people are cultured or sensitive.

Sorry, that was a huge rant. Questions and criticism welcome.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Heema22

4,Timid governments

It is astonishing how deeply this affects Indians. The tame nature of Indian governments seems to rob them of self-esteem. It is often the first thing that comes up in conversations with friends and family living outside India. Governments barring those of Jawaharlal Nehru and Rajiv Gandhi have done so little in India that even minor routine administrative decisions appear to be important. This creates a sense that anything goes in India. It makes people defensive and they see no hope. Consequently, many Indians rush to leave. Living outside India makes them grateful for being able to leav




Why Heema, why no mention of Indira Gandhi?? People remember only the Emergency as if that was the only highlight of her reign. What about food security? India became self-reliant in food during her reign. She had guts and liberated Bangladesh. Of course, the Bangladeshis paid a heavy price for it and people will only remember what went wrong. But did it not take guts to do that??

She protected our forests and wildlife at the expense of our "infrastructural development" because she understood the worth of it. This "clearance" government headed by illiterate goons cannot hold a candle to her in this regard. 92000 hectares, please note, has been cleared by Narendra Modi's illiterate government for flyovers and highways. Idiot!

Rajiv Gandhi ushered in the IT revolution. Against much resistance, he brought in computers. His work was carried forward by the least hailed and most low key and unlikely Prime Minister P V Narasimha Rao. Nobody mentions him today. He and Dr Manmohan Singh crafted the new and stable India that withstood the recession that decimated global economy. People now mention him only in the context of hawala.

This is why Indians are ungrateful and undeserving. They get taken in by sparkle and not substance.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Heema22

5. Inert justice

All else being equal, this is the killer. Millions of cases pending in Indian courts [Supreme Court, high courts and lower courts together]. Indians who have had to be in court seem lacerated by the experience. It creates a conviction that India is an unjust nation. This is enough for people to seek citizenship of other nations. Indians living in the West, principally the UK and the US, speak of how they can trust the system there. Indians in India can't

6.Scary schools

This is one of the top three worries of India. Schools and teachers employed by them seem to be seriously short on integrity and skill. It makes parents so fearful that they'd rather leave than risk disaster in India. Those that stay behind, students and teachers, rarely have attractive qualities. It's so bad that diplomats of other nations posted in India almost never educate their children in any Indian school. Progress, if any, comes purely from individual industry. Like the auto driver's daughter in Mumbai who topped the all-India chartered accountancy exam or kid from slum topped board exam and so. Many other examples .Fact: No Indian university is in the world's top 200. So they leave.

7.Yearning youth

Even worse than the level of education is the fate of youngsters who come through the system. Hope and enthusiasm pull them through, but once they start looking for jobs, it hits them. Management students work at call centres, engineering graduates slog it out in IT jobs, and IT behemoths mostly offer data entry and marketing jobs. All of this is soul-destroying. The result: Youngsters spend time and energy looking to leave India. The lack of avenues breeds resentment and they leave.

8.Measly money

Those who do get jobs hate their fate, instead of looking forward to a life of fulfillment. So miserly are employers that Indian professionals can't wait to leave the country. I know of talented chefs and journalists who have spent lakhs of rupees trying to leave India. One chef I know was offered Rs 9000 a month at a five-star hotel. He felt insulted and is seeking to leave at the earliest. Journalists are offered paltry salaries or none at all in the interiors. In many states, owners tell correspondents to attract advertisements so they can take home commission from them. A career in films, too, can be heartbreaking for the young. All of them leave.These are strong reasons why Indians look to leave India because India is a fair weather nation. You can live here only if the going is good.


9,10 . I better stop now otherwise No one will read it .



I really feel passionately about schooling and the education system in India. So much so that I am dipping fingers and toes into it. If I get down to writing about it, it will be a confused mess and no one will understand anything.

I would like to think that with international education boards coming in, things are changing. At least in urban centres, we see some change. But the real killer is the quality of teachers. We have set absolutely no standards for those who want to enrol into a B.Ed. course. Those who do not get admission into any other course, enter B.Ed. But again, when illiterate people are at the helm of things, how can we hope for change?

Then there are schools that run out of a proper building and yet, have no valid licenses to show. If you have been following the news, you will know that little children are not safe in schools. One seven year old was killed (throat slit) in Gurgaon. And stories of the sexual assault of little children has become commonplace now. Scary in every single way.

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