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Originally posted by: elasingh

Ashoka' s wife Tiruvasta fell in love with Ashoka's son Kunal..
And proposed him. ...Kunal refused her. ..Ashoka was seriously ill and some how she got him cured. ..as a boon she got Ashoka's seal to use. .A revolt broke out in Takshila and she convinced Ashoka to send kunal...when kunal was in Takshila she sent orders to blind him and then kill him with Ashoka's seal..Kunal was blinded but not killed. ..when Ashoka got to know this he was furious and ordered Tissrakkha to be burned alive. .

😲😲

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

@bold ,Baap re is it true?

Even if she was a step mother but according to our culture it's disgusting even if a stepfather was at her place.

Poor kunal.

Originally posted by: elasingh

Yes given in Ashokavadan---Romila Thapar

How many wives did Ashoka have?

The event that Ashoka got his wife Tisaraka killed and that she fell in love with Kunal is a Buddhist legend.


^ This has been dismissed by historians..

On the Basis that > Tisaraka was alive till the death of Ashoka and she was made Chief Queen by Ashoka 4 years before his death. :)

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

I too loved this comment..Very true though

Rashmi ,

You made me laugh really hard. :)

Well Romila Thapar admits it to be true and there is no mention of Kunal being given throne..His sons were given throne...I also feel like thapar that incidence is true..Vincent Smith has said it too..

Originally posted by: Nanayaa623

Abhay,

When the writer says the Prince of Age he is referring to Akbar right?

Akbar truly was liberal and had a lot of opinions when it comes to religions there is a lot of debate on such. Ekta Jalal can't be compared to Akbar he was very mobile not only in the harem.

There was a place that a priest was debating on monogamy. Please explain:

" Hindu women maybe divided into five classes with regard to their methods of expressing grief for the death of their husband. He said that some will walk into the flames of fire and burn with their husbands
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So i am back finally for some time. :)

Prince of Age is Akbar.


About the last para..

This refers to ancient Indian custom followed by Hindus those days > when a husband dies wife committed herself to the funeral pyre of her husband.

Abul Fazl tells 5 such cases > This is one of them.

^^^ But this is given in Ain i Akbari. It is not history of Akbar, it only contains practices and customs, and some are of no use and tough to understand. But, if you are able to understand it then its great. ! 😊

For Akbar's history, if you do it, start from Vincent Smith one. It is easiest to read.

BTW, Salutes to you for reading Indian history with so much dedication and humility , despite not being related to it. 👏

PS : Be careful, if you read Akbarnama, at some places the translator calls the foster mother as simply "mother". You may get confused in parentage, hence telling in advance.

Examples :

1. He called Maham Anga as simply mother at one place.
2. Death of foster mother of Danial is called death of Daniyal's mother. Though, MUZ was alive and after this incident of foster mom's death the translator again implies that mother of Danial was alive. 😆
3. And at one place in Salim's memoirs they called Nur Jahan as mother of Khurram😲😉..

Originally posted by: history_geek

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Originally posted by: elasingh

My dear...what made you think Noor was close to Ruk? Noor stayed with Salima and it was Salima who was approached by Salim for marriage...Internet blogs say different story and books different...Actually in 20th wife Ruk is Padshah begum and harem incharge and Noor stays with her...but its a total lie...Again Noor and Ruk were power hungry woman...How can they live together peacefully? Salim's inner coteri was Noor, her parents,her brother and Khurram...Sadly Salim himself did not include his sons Shaharyaar and Parvez...I can understand his not including Khusaro but why not the other two sons? Khurram and Noor had a power struggle and Salim watched quietly...Salim did not realise that Noor was an outsider...His family which had no stake in the well being of Mughal sultanat...I feel sorry for Jalal...Such was Noor's mismanagement that income from Khalsa had come to half..but Salim was powerless to do anything...things did not really improve under Khurram either..Akbar charged only 1/3rd of Lagaan while Khurram chaged 1/2...Jagirdari problems too were raising their heads and none of the mughals after Akbar had the political insight to tackle them...Result is obvious to all..

Ela, at bold this means that if the cv team did not change the story midway then this is the book they where following right from the beginning and they might have started with Jodha Akbar just to make additions to the fictional novel story ( the movie Jodha Akbar plus the novel fiction ) making it into one Serial. Unfortunately for them they thought Ruky could carry the day so they built the story around her after the love confession and consummation of JJ.

But that is when cv team started losing viewers and it was an up and down trps till the bombshell of three years separation and then leaps and this is where we are 2.9 10 tenth position.

Am sure they are biting their fingers right now this is what I call from 'grace to grass'.

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

@bold ,Baap re is it true?

Even if she was a step mother but according to our culture it's disgusting even if a stepfather was at her place.

Poor kunal.

Yes its true.I believe she was a maid/nurse of Ashoka's wives and then the wife died. Then this maid took care of Ashoka when he was ill and they married. She and Ashoka had a big difference in age but she fell for the son. The son considered her as his mother