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Posted: 10 years ago


Fans who have been waiting to get their hands on the highly anticipated "The Winds of Winter" which is the sixth volume of George RR Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire" book series can now lower their hopes as the author's publisher confirmed that the volume won't arrive this year.

Jane Johnson of HarperCollins said that the next novel isn't ready yet for a 2015 release.

"I have no information on likely delivery," Johnson said. "These are increasingly complex books and require immense amounts of concentration to write. Fans really ought to appreciate that the length of these monsters is equivalent to two or three novels by other writers."

As a consolation, the publishing house will instead release a new illustrated edition of the three previously anthologized novellas called "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms." The collection comprises the official prequel of the now popular HBO TV series, "Game of Thrones." The titles are "The Hedge Knight," "The Sworn Sword," and "The Mystery Knight."

The new edition is scheduled to hit the bookstores in October.

"The novellas," said Johnson, "are illustrated in black and white line drawings throughout by Gary Gianni in classic style. It will be a truly lovely book, and I adore these clever, funny stories."

For starters, "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" features the adventures of Ser Duncan the Tall, a lowly hedge knight, with his squire named Egg, who is "more than he first seems."

For the meantime, the upcoming fifth season of HBO's "Game of Thrones" will air its premiere episode on April 12, 2015


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Posted: 10 years ago

Wonder if these books have any real relevance other than merely acting as a precedent to ASOIAF, and expanding slightly more on the past to further contextualise elements found in the ASOIAF. Im sure it wont have that much of a bearing of what's to come, as much as it is more about entering into scrupulous details of past characters skittered throughout the main novel whose roles may seem marginal in relation to the more significant ones; yet still I wonder if these novellas may retain some foreshadowing in line with GRR Martins subtle style; withholding from revealing too much. Naturally that may be the case with regards to premeditating through characters and events of the past..

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: daenerysnow

Wonder if these books have any real relevance other than merely acting as a precedent to ASOIAF, and expanding slightly more on the past to further contextualise elements found in the ASOIAF. Im sure it wont have that much of a bearing of what's to come, as much as it is more about entering into scrupulous details of past characters skittered throughout the main novel whose roles may seem marginal in relation to the more significant ones; yet still I wonder if these novellas may retain some foreshadowing in line with GRR Martins subtle style; withholding from revealing too much. Naturally that may be the case with regards to premeditating through characters and events of the past..


None of the books other than the original ones of the ASOIAF have any information about the current storyline & characters. Most of them are about the Targs whom I personally find pretty boring. I am reading the world book of ASOIAF at present. Even there we have the history of many things, but GRRM hasn't included any background stories relevant to the current storyline. Like there are no details about Rhaegar-Lyanna-Reed-Stark story.


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Posted: 10 years ago
Someone from Waterstones Books snapped a picture of GRRM's 3 page original letter that outlines ASOIAF. Some pretty awesome insights (and potential spoilers for future volumes of ASOIAF herein)





I am so glad he didnt follow this story completely & made changes. This looks like a badly written fanfiction though some basic elements are still there but giving more depth to characters was a great addition👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
A great post on tumblr regarding the above letter:


Everyone's laughing about this letter- and that included myself- but I really wanted to break down aspects of this letter with my opinions.

As much as we can get a good laugh, much of the letter has remained true in the story, albeit sometimes revamped. For instance, the whole Lannister/Stark conflict with Dany the last Targaryen but the real foe is the Others has remained in tact. While Theon/Ramsay and not Tyrion burns and take Winterfell, it does happen in the books. Robb, Ned, and Catelyn all die as well in this draft. Bran has magic, goes Beyond the Wall and is a big character. Arya fights with Needle. Viserys dies because of the Dothraki and Dany still thinks about that in ADWD. Dany is planning on invading Westeros. Jon becomes Lord Commander. All of that stays the same. Even the mention of Jon's parentage with R+L=J seems consistent.

King Jaime: The Jaime bits make sense for the Jaime we're introduced to in AGoT- the one who tried to kill a child of seven and the one that Ned describes as sitting on top the Iron Throne when he arrived. I feel like it's believable that GRRM gave him more depth later- he did so with a lot of non-original POV characters so far as I can tell. And we really do get a shallow view on Jaime in book 1.

Our Jaime doesn't crave the throne but the initial conception of Jaime? Yeah, you could see that set up in AGoT. And the Lannister conflict as well as the power grab after Joffrey's death in the Red Keep is consistent.

Sansa: The Sansa stuff is arguably the most believable though because Sansa was the main character who was likely to be least fleshed out by this point seeing as it's super early and we know she was late to be conceived by GRRM. Moreover, I've always felt GRRM wasn't sure where he wanted to go with Sansa in AGoT. ACoK onwards is where I feel she really becomes more complex and well developed.

Also, there was a conflict in which Sansa "chose" Joffrey/the Lannisters over her family (because she wanted to marry him.) And I think we can all agree that she regretted it and wished she could leave Joffrey and court.

GRRM claimed that he created Sansa to add conflict to the too-happy Stark family. That's pretty obvious in this version of events. This is more of a one-dimensional and water down version of the Sansa we know and love.

Bran: He does wake up from his coma with prophetic dreams. He does flee a burning Winterfell and head Beyond the Wall. He's also had limited contact with Jon/the Night's Watch.

Arya: Arya does flee the Red Keep aiming for Winterfell with an adult (Yoren) directing her. She has Needle and Nymeria's still alive. Moreover, she has a lot of contact and connections with the Night's Watch even with the changes. Also, she does try to get to the Wall even in Braavos many times to get protection from Jon.

Tyrion: Tyrion does become disenchanted with his family, he does form a bond with Sansa, he does have a family conflict that forces him to flee King's Landing as a fugitive- all of that is true.

Tyrion/Arya: It's possible that GRRM changed that to Sansa/Tyrion because Tyrion does have attraction to Sansa that she doesn't return.

Arya/Jon: Now, unpopular opinion time, but I can actually see this with GRRM. Personally, I don't ship it, but it as arguably be seen as set up within the series. Arya and Jon's connection is the strongest bond in the series. I don't see how people can claim otherwise whether it's platonic or romantic, they think of each other more than anyone else does.

And the whole idea of love for Arya vs. duty to the Watch was a major plot point in ADWD. "Different roads sometimes lead to the same castle." There really is foundation if GRRM wanted to say it was romantic and not platonic. Given GRRM and incest, it's not surprising to me.

When I read about Jon/Arya being canon, I wasn't surprised. If they weren't related, readers would think they were madly in love given how much they mean to each and how often they think of each other. Arya "could always make Jon smile", "She missed Jon" more than anyone, even just the idea that Jon specifically wouldn't recognize her in ADWD makes her depressed.

As for the five most important characters (Arya, Dany, Tyrion, Bran, and Jon,) no one should be surprised. I don't think people can consider them safe, but they've always been set up to be big players against the Others and the only original POVs left.

But what about Sansa? Well, like I said, I don't think she'd been fully conceived yet so her absence means nothing one way or the other to me.

That's my take on everything. Take it with a grain of salt, but I wouldn't discount everything. Mostly I'm looking at this as interesting in terms of how it all began and how much has changed.

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Posted: 10 years ago

Wow at the far-fetching almost fan-fic bits concerning Arya, and glad that GRRM had deviated from such ideas in his initial plan. Reading about Jamie was somewhat startling, but like what you said Lannister, it makes sense only in the context of the first book where we only were given an insight into him via the way rest of the world perceived him, as indeed his character is given more dimensions afterwards that makes him the likeable man that he is; we are lead to believe that through his insights. GRRMs might've pulled a rabbit out of a hat where Jaime may be the true mastermind only if he wasn't allowed his POV just like the other masters of trickery from Littlefinger and Varys, as POVs truly add that element that may not haven been gauged through any other means, raising Jaime to a byronical hero of sorts.

I somehow knew the central 5 figures would consist of Daenerys, Jon, Tyrion, and Arya and Bran Stark as their perspectives would appear to have more weight throughout the books. Yet these central 5 who drive the story aren't exactly guaranteed a deathless journey seeing as death can strike any character in his world(!)
Its exciting to consider that these characters could be unbeknownst to some of them, part of the bigger scheme of things that will ultimately occur in the realm of Westeros and conflate into a powerful phenomenon of some kind., I look forward as a reader to such an inevitable colossal wave of an epic as so far their stories appear disjointed but there does indeed seem to be a gradation and overlap between destinies of various characters that will meet their end in most probably epic, catastrophic manner.
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Posted: 10 years ago
Who would you cast as the Ironborn brothers Euron and Victarion?
My picks: Richard Armitage as the strong, stern Victarion:
I could certainly envision him in that role, Victarions pov chapters paint him as a serious man certain about his position and power, Richard Armitage fits the bill for me
And..this man, as the powerful, dubious, quasi-evil Euron:
Enough said.
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Posted: 10 years ago
Drooling over Euron already Thats Mads Mikkelsen right???😳 Looks perfect as the half mad Euron. These Danish guys are so handsome☺️
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Originally posted by: The.Lannister

Drooling over Euron already Thats Mads Mikkelsen right???😳 Looks perfect as the half mad Euron. These Danish guys are so handsome☺️

They so are...Nikolaj and Mads Mikkelsen were in a film together!
Hooked on Hannibal at the moment. Such an intense show, love it.
Funnily enough Richard Armitage will be featuring in the upcoming season of Hannibal as Francis Dolarhyde. It would be a stretch to reel these two for Game of thrones, especially Mads Mikkelsen, but apparently Im not the only one who imagines them in these roles... Make it happen somehow Weiss/Benioff...
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Originally posted by: daenerysnow

They so are...Nikolaj and Mads Mikkelsen were in a film together!
Hooked on Hannibal at the moment. Such an intense show, love it.
Funnily enough Richard Armitage will be featuring in the upcoming season of Hannibal as Francis Dolarhyde. It would be a stretch to reel these two for Game of thrones, especially Mads Mikkelsen, but apparently Im not the only one who imagines them in these roles... Make it happen somehow Weiss/Benioff...


Havent watched Hannibal.


There is such a long list of actors from other shows that I wanna c in GoT! One of them came true with Mark Gatiss though I wish he had been in some major role. But I do feel Tychos Nestoris will have important work in the next books

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