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Good news for Indian Television. Seems like now Star Plus is getting Grey's Anatomy to India in seasons format. Anil Kapoor's 24 has given positive vibe for the Indian producers, Seems like the series is being widely appreciated on the twitter and social media.

http://www.tellychakkar.com/tv/tv-news/star-plus-and-endemol-bring-greys-anatomy-indian-tv-mishal-raheja-and-himmanshoo-likely

So does this mean there will no longer, never ending soaps but instead we will have crisp pre-shot with definite track seasons. Well thank god if this finally happens.

MoM - Aandhi

Some relationships are not destined to be. And it's not always about right or wrong. Sometimes it's about circumstances, clash in ideologies, difference in background and upbringing. A person can compromise only as much for the sake of a marriage. When it goes beyond limit, it can only harm the relationship. Sometimes it's better to move away than continue with it. Yes, opposites attract, but they may not always find the middle ground.

JK and Aarti did the same. It was obvious from the beginning that these are two completely opposite characters. They tried and failed to have a successful marriage. Aarti needed to have an identity and felt stifled being a house wife. Whereas JK, being a simple man, just wanted to come home to a wife. Her father being opposed to the marriage from the beginning didn't help the situation either. And so they decided to part ways.

Meeting years later gave these two a closure that they have been seeking since the breakup. Both of them are now older, more mature. And can now understand the other person's point of view and make peace with the fact that the decision they took was probably right. Neither of them has been completely happy, but then they wouldn't have been happier together as well. They know they never stopped loving each other but that's not enough to keep them together. Now they can at least be each other's confidant.

A beautiful hatake love story, if I may call it so. In the era of boy meets girl and they live happily ever after fighting the baddies, Gulazar's film on marital discord and separation was far ahead of its time. Loved how he underplayed the emotional angle in a very subtle and sensitive manner. No high handed rhetoric or over the top dramatics. The use of intermittent flashbacks... absolutely brilliant.

Sanjeev Kumar and Suchitra Sen gave powerhouse performances. Especially SK. Yes, SS's diction wasn't great, but one hardly notices it thanks to her dignified portrayal. Gulzar's lyrics along with Pancham Da's music make this to my list of HOF movie tracks.

This was apparently based on Indira Gandhi's life. May be it was. But the political background was just that, a background. Aarti could be shown working in a corporate world and the story wouldn't have changed.

Originally posted by: psarada

@bold:- Dips, the reason the clan was still called as Kuru Vansh was because even though Vichitravirya died childless, the kids Dhritirastra and Pandu were born to his widows and the intention behind their birth is to take the vansh forward.

Originally posted by: dips99

Psy, I know the why's. But Vansh to me means bloodline. And Dhritarashtra and Pandu didn't carry it. Neither did Kauravas and Pandavas. That's the point I was trying to make.

@dips:- Yes none of the Kauravas and Pandavas do belong to the bloodline of Shantanu but I think at that time in Indian society, step kids(kids born to the mother with different fathers) did get the name and carried the lineage of her present husband. I mean that is the only think of why all of them eventually were called Kuru vansh because the mothers were wedded or were widows of Kuru princes.

Aandhi - Mature love story set against a political backdrop. The introduction of JK and Aarti and their journey towards how/why they separated was woven well through out the movie as as flashbacks. There is no over the top yell fests when dealing with such a heavy subject about a woman giving up her home life to persue her dream and passion in politics. Their meetings, the stolen moments they spend with one another after a chance meeting many years later is very poignant and beautiful to watch. Fantastic career best performances from Sanjeev Kumar and Suchitra Sen.

I now appreciate Tera bina even more after watching the entire movie. The song remained in the background while Aarthi and JK gave form to the lyrics with their emotions and reactions. The lyrics for the first half focuses on Aarthi and she ends with

Jee mein aata hai, tere daaman mein, sar jhuka ke hum rote rahe, rote rahe
Teri bhi aankho mein, aansuo ki nami to nahi

It is only then we hear JK's perspective when Kishore Kumar starts to sing "tera bina.." . The controlled performance of Sanjeev Kumar, be it delivering the lines "Mera shauhar banne ki koshish mat karo" to the conversation in the end is just superb. The car ride back after declaring to the world that they are indeed husband and wife - a chance to walk away, restart their lives again as family and yet JK says

tumhari haar mere jeet nahi ho sakthi
mein tumhe harna nehi dekh saktha na ghar me na bahar


Of course the lovely parting shot of the helicopter flying in one direction and he walking away in another direction as they continue their separate lives.❤️💔

Dipsy, thanks much for recommending this. I usually google to find some trivia about the movie after watching MoM and here is what I found about Aandhi

http://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/cinema-columns/aandhi-1975/article4742988.ece

The below lines said it best in the article :

Of course, songs like "Tere bina zindagi se koi shikwa nahi" and "Iss modh se jaate hain" hit the popularity charts. Incidentally, it was during the shooting of the songs that Gulzar came across as a painter on the big screen. No dance moves, no need for a choreographer. Just a splendid interplay of light and shadow to capture the stillness of the moment, the profundity of the unsaid word.

Originally posted by: dips99

MoM - Aandhi

Some relationships are not destined to be. And it's not always about right or wrong. Sometimes it's about circumstances, clash in ideologies, difference in background and upbringing. A person can compromise only as much for the sake of a marriage. When it goes beyond limit, it can only harm the relationship. Sometimes it's better to move away than continue with it. Yes, opposites attract, but they may not always find the middle ground.

JK and Aarti did the same. It was obvious from the beginning that these are two completely opposite characters. They tried and failed to have a successful marriage. Aarti needed to have an identity and felt stifled being a house wife. Whereas JK, being a simple man, just wanted to come home to a wife. Her father being opposed to the marriage from the beginning didn't help the situation either. And so they decided to part ways.

Meeting years later gave these two a closure that they have been seeking since the breakup. Both of them are now older, more mature. And can now understand the other person's point of view and make peace with the fact that the decision they took was probably right. Neither of them has been completely happy, but then they wouldn't have been happier together as well. They know they never stopped loving each other but that's not enough to keep them together. Now they can at least be each other's confidant.

A beautiful hatake love story, if I may call it so. In the era of boy meets girl and they live happily ever after fighting the baddies, Gulazar's film on marital discord and separation was far ahead of its time. Loved how he underplayed the emotional angle in a very subtle and sensitive manner. No high handed rhetoric or over the top dramatics. The use of intermittent flashbacks... absolutely brilliant.

Sanjeev Kumar and Suchitra Sen gave powerhouse performances. Especially SK. Yes, SS's diction wasn't great, but one hardly notices it thanks to her dignified portrayal. Gulzar's lyrics along with Pancham Da's music make this to my list of HOF movie tracks.

This was apparently based on Indira Gandhi's life. May be it was. But the political background was just that, a background. Aarti could be shown working in a corporate world and the story wouldn't have changed.

Beautiful thoughts on a very beautiful movie Aandhi. Couldn't watch it again as AD is really hectic before we take a break for Dusshera in office but remember the story as I have seen it so many times. This was one of the few movies which I think DoorDarshan used to repeat at least once in a year.

Sanjeev Kumar was awesome, I haven't seen the movie now but whenever I have seen it, I felt the movie more deeply from JK's point of view than from Aarthi's point of view. Maybe if I see now, my perception will change but as much as I remember, I used to feel bad for JK. He loved Aarthi but then let's her go because she feels suffocated just being a housewife. And I don't think she ever keeps in contact with her daughter whom she leaves behind, Does she contact her? Anyone who watched it can please enlighten me there. So I always felt JK got the bad deal - he loved Aarthi whole heartedly but ends up with nothing and Sanjeev Kumar brings out the despair of 'What did I do wrong' very beautifully. My favorite song has to be 'Tere bina Zindagi se' and here too I feel Kishore Kumar was awesome in the song much better than Lata was.

Like you said, The story was miles ahead of its times. I think for the first time we had an Indian movie which didn't glorify woman giving up everything and having a meek existence. Was Aarthi right or wrong, that depends on individual perspective. But my sympathies always lied with JK, a man who lost everything for no fault of his and in the end he even comes up the stage to console her and give her support. The end scene of JK staying alone after Aarthi takes off in a helicopter(I remember it as that) and he walks alone - makes me feel so bad for JK. That's what I remember of the movie.

Originally posted by: savvy05

Aandhi - Mature love story set against a political backdrop. The introduction of JK and Aarti and their journey towards how/why they separated was woven well through out the movie as as flashbacks. There is no over the top yell fests when dealing with such a heavy subject about a woman giving up her home life to persue her dream and passion in politics. Their meetings, the stolen moments they spend with one another after a chance meeting many years later is very poignant and beautiful to watch. Fantastic career best performances from Sanjeev Kumar and Suchitra Sen.

I now appreciate Tera bina even more after watching the entire movie. The song remained in the background while Aarthi and JK gave form to the lyrics with their emotions and reactions. The lyrics for the first half focuses on Aarthi and she ends with

Jee mein aata hai, tere daaman mein, sar jhuka ke hum rote rahe, rote rahe
Teri bhi aankho mein, aansuo ki nami to nahi

It is only then we hear JK's perspective when Kishore Kumar starts to sing "tera bina.." . The controlled performance of Sanjeev Kumar, be it delivering the lines "Mera shauhar banne ki koshish mat karo" to the conversation in the end is just superb. The car ride back after declaring to the world that they are indeed husband and wife - a chance to walk away, restart their lives again as family and yet JK says

tumhari haar mere jeet nahi ho sakthi
mein tumhe harna nehi dekh saktha na ghar me na bahar


Of course the lovely parting shot of the helicopter flying in one direction and he walking away in another direction as they continue their separate lives.❤️💔

Dipsy, thanks much for recommending this. I usually google to find some trivia about the movie after watching MoM and here is what I found about Aandhi

http://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/cinema-columns/aandhi-1975/article4742988.ece

The below lines said it best in the article :

Of course, songs like "Tere bina zindagi se koi shikwa nahi" and "Iss modh se jaate hain" hit the popularity charts. Incidentally, it was during the shooting of the songs that Gulzar came across as a painter on the big screen. No dance moves, no need for a choreographer. Just a splendid interplay of light and shadow to capture the stillness of the moment, the profundity of the unsaid word.

@Bold:- Yay, I remember this shot even when I didn't see the movie this time around. Thanks for confirming that it was indeed an helicopter shot and both Aarthi and JK do go in their separate ways at the end of the movie.

As usual I haven't been able to watch the MoM movie although I have watched it years ago when it first released. Sanjeev Kumar and Suchitra Sen were brilliant in it and the music was superb. The lyrica of all the songs were beautiful...

Originally posted by: soapsuds

Dipsy it was actually based on a Hindi novel by Kamleshwar called Kali Aandhi. We read the novel in school so I am pretty sure about that. But as I far as I can recall the novel was not credited in the movie though perhaps I am wrong. Of course a lot of Suchitra sen's body language was modelled on Mrs. Gandhi and I even think the movie was banned for a while because of the political ripples.

October Movie of the Month: Aandhi

Hola Dipsy, Savs, Sarada and Biraj!

Great, informative write-ups all!!⭐️ Dipsy, you said it all, and so beautifully! 👏

This is the second time I have watched the actual movie, though the songs have been in my audio and video playlists for years. And this time too, I felt there was just one word to describe Gulzar Saheb's brilliant script and direction: Poetry. Poetry of emotions, of metaphors, of flashback sequences, of lyrics, of dialogues. One of the traditional definitions of poetry, in my opinion, is the narration of a story of human emotions in a manner that is opposite to ordinary, that is anything but prosaic. And that is exactly what we find here. On the face of it, Aandhi is an unhappy tale of two strong individuals who make the mistake of falling in love. Normally, that would have been sufficient reason for me to stay away...yet, I am drawn to it, and its songs, chiefly because of how Gulzar Saheb wove the tapestry with threads of shers, sonnets and soliloquies.

The entire sad tale is narrated with such finesse and sensitivity that it tugs at your heart, all the time steering clear of any melodrama or theatrics. From the time Arti Devi and JK come face to face again after all those years, you are able to see the oceans of regret in their eyes, and the lump in your throat never really goes away for the rest of the movie. But alongside that regret and tears, both pairs of eyes also have that resignation which is the most heart-breaking and despairing element of it all. The stoic acceptance that there could really never have been any other path for them. Yet this acceptance can never stop them from mourning their loss.

Tere bina zindagi mein shikwa toh nahin

Tere bine zindagi bhi zindagi toh nahin...

And then of course, there are those splendid metaphors before and during the song.."Shayad un dinon ki baat hai jab yeh imarat ujdi nahin thee...kamse kam kuch dinon ke liye yeh imarat bhir se bas jaayegi" and "Beech mein amaavas aa jaati hai. Is baar amaavas bohat lambi thi...nau saal lambi na? "

A word about Binder Kaka...loved his emotional happiness when Arti touches his feet on seeing him after those long years.

Though it is very, very hard to pick a favourite from among the songs, "Iss mod se jaate hain..." Is for me the one that sums it all.

Iss mod se jaate hain, kuch sust qadam rakhte, kuch tez qadam raahi.

In so many ways, JK is that part of Arti's life where she dropped off from her political marathon, that interlude when she slowed down and relished the true romantic love of an honest, good man. Loved him in turn, but their togetherness was not be.

More than it being Indira Gandhi's life story, I have come to think that it had strains of Gulzar Saheb's own life and marriage to Rakheeji. How he was a poet, Rakheeji a big star. They were separated, yet remain together to this day and share a daughter.

Cannot end without thanks to Doc for suggesting we do MoM's and to Dipsy for this month's choice!!! Thank you for being so brilliant😃