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Posted: 13 years ago
#31
The worst of the lot is Salman Khan, he writes giberish, literally!

PS- Anu, I love your sig box :)

@EHM- I didnt like yesterday's VM scenes too much. Agreed, I'm a fan of the two but for some reason the whole bit yesterday seemed a little forced. I didnt want them to fall for each other already! I was watching yesterday's epi with my sister and the minute Maanvi stepped on the elevator I started screaming, 'Dont fall, Dont' fall'. LOL

And I agree with Amy, what's the point of having Manan onboard? :S

And VJ went to Sukhna lake yesterday 😆..our dear Sukhna deserved some credit! 😆



@Eve teasing- Did you guys hear about the Keanan- Rubeak case?





Edited by Abhi911 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hey Abhi...lol they are all cartoons...but yeah I didn't know that even SRK was using this 'DAT DIS' kinda lingo...I have SUCH an allergy to this sms lingo...I hate it with a passion and it seems this is the only way ppl in India will talk online now...ughhhs.

But seriously somewhere I thought SRK was more intelligent than this...guess not...and how JUVENILE is he...all these actors act so CHINDILY, man...ruins the whole image further...lol


So are you still watching EHM?

*Edit: LOL just read your post...Thank you about the dabba :-) ..The VM scenes in the beginning of the epi did feel forced and stilted to me and not a fan of the trip/catch either but compared to a lot of crap I've seen recently, it was relatively naturally shown when it came to showing an awkwardness b/w them for that moment...baaki the rest was their usual banter...I liked their scene in the shop when Maanvi's buying the necklace and haggling over it...they haven't fallen for each other yet but they were obviously going to put in "moments" b/w them from time to time...it's still better than JV and their overnight lowe starting with Jeevika's rope/dupatta hanging incident😆

Did JV really go to Sukhna lake or did they just chipkao that into the scene😆

Dunno about the case you are talking about :S
Edited by nureat01 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Anu, I'm surprised you're still awake. Isnt it kinda late there?


I absolutely detest that kind of a lingo, it ruins the language. Even while on sms, what's the point of using half-jilted words, thoda time lagake pura likh lo yaar. But you're right in India, people seem to have a fetish for this kind of 'shorthand'. They think it's cool :X Though, I'd say twitter has also contributed majorly to this. The other day I went on twitter through my mum's account and I realised that it is IMPOSSIBLE to convey what you want in 400 characters without sacrificing the grammar.

@EHM- I dunno, for some reason I didn't like their entire bit yesterday. One, the dubbing was bad and secondly, Viraat was making too much of an effort to act 'cool'. The shop scene was nice where Maanvi explained the significance of the rudraksh mala to V. I like how gracefully Nia slips from childish to mature. One of the finest actresses I have seen in a while.

LOL, Viren took Jeevika to some lake in Chandigarh for their romantic rendezvous, and since there is only one lake there, I assumed it's Sukhna 😆



Edited by Abhi911 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#34
LOL yeah it's late...but I go to sleep late cuz I get back late from class so I waste time on IF for a bit...haha

I told you that day also that Virat's acting is sketchy...so yes today showed that again...he does try too hard in some scenes...pata nahin what he will do if he actually gets a complicated scene to enact...lol...and I found the editing bad in the VM scenes too along with the bad dubbing and the dialogues in the bantering weren't that great either...but Nia saves most scenes for me given what a natural actress she is so I was ok with today's scenes and the shop scene was actually nice as a softer moment too...word about how gracefully Nia slips in and out of the various aspects to Maanvi.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@KR case- I can't seem to find any article related to it at the moment. But basically these two twenty-something lads from Mumbai stood up against eve-teasing and ended up sacrificing their lives. They had gone with a couple of friends somewhere when some goons started teasing their lady friends, instead of running away from the situation they stood up against it.

Barkha Dutt and Seema Goswami have written about the two. Barkha Dutt had spoken about the courage these two men showed by standing up to a crime few men even bother acknowledge as one. While Seema Goswami talks about how the term 'Eve-teasing' masks the actual brutality of the crime making it seem like some romantic way of wooing a girl. I'll try to post the articles! They're worth a read.
Edited by Abhi911 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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The dialogues were a downfall after that kitchen scene. I LOVED the dialogues in that one, the Salim-Javed, the ullu one 😆.
I saw the EHM fanpage on facebook where the 'fangirls' have spammed it with their 'Virman' posts, especially Kushal aka Virat. So, I guess all this adulation has gone through the actor's head already, and he's making an 'effort' to appear all hot and chilled out.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#37
Found the article by Seema Goswami...seriously what is the world coming to...may the guys rest in peace

[quote]What's the good word?

Let's not trivialise sexual harassment by coyly calling it 'eve-teasing'

Of all the words that seek to hide a grim reality behind innocuous euphemisms – honour killings, collateral damage, dowry deaths – the most ludicrous has to be 'eve-teasing'. And of late we have been getting an overdose of this word in our media because of the horrific murders of two Mumbai boys, Keenan Santos and Reuben Fernandez.

These two young men were out with friends one evening when some 'eve-teasers' started misbehaving with the girls in the group. Keenan and Reuben objected to their behaviour and got into an altercation. The miscreants left, only to return with a gang of rowdies. A fight ensured, in the course of which the goons stabbed both Keenan and Reuben. (I wonder, does that make them 'knife-wielders' rather than murderers?) Keenan died on the spot. Reuben passed away a week later in hospital. And we were told that the boys had paid the ultimate price for standing up against the menace of 'eve-teasing'.

Funny old word, isn't it? Eve-teasing. It evokes pictures of bashful young girls being playfully 'teased' by mischievous young men who are just looking for a lark and some laughs. It brings to mind bucolic images of a beautiful Garden of Eden in which nubile young girls (the Eves in eve-teasing) are gently joshed with by well-meaning, witty men. Yes, it sounds nice and soft, all romantic and wonderful, doesn't it?

The reality, of course, is quite different. What 'eve-teasing' means in real terms is the incessant, unremitting sexual harassment of women by men who take a perverted pleasure in tormenting them. There's the boy whistling loudly at a girl as she walks down the street. There's the man passing lewd comments on the physical attributes of the woman who works with him in office. There's the boy who brushes up against a bunch of teenagers in the mall. There's the man who pinches the bum of the woman nearest to him in a crowded bus. And much, much worse.

Yes, sexual harassment can take many forms. But not one of them qualifies to be coyly termed 'eve-teasing', with its connotations of playful joshing and the sense of how 'boys will be boys, yaar'. And yet, we are constantly being bombarded with the subliminal message that these 'eve-teasers', those naughty boys, are just out for some innocent fun and a few laughs. And honestly, we shouldn't take it so seriously.

At one level, this laid-back attitude to the sexual harassment of women is a by-product of our patriarchal culture in which men are allowed to get away with murder (sometimes quite literally). Their bad behaviour is excused or explained away on one pretext or the other; their various misdemeanours treated with indulgence. And never more so than when their victims are female.

But if you ask me, our popular culture is just as culpable. In India, of course, that translates into the movies. And our cinema hasn't exactly helped by elevating 'eve-teasing' to an art form. Remember those Sixties movies that made Shammi Kapoor a star? In which he chased his heroines relentlessly through the first hour after which they obligingly fell in love with him? The same formula has been repeated in every decade after with everyone from Rajesh Khanna to Govinda, from Salman and Shah Rukh to Imran Khan following this peculiarly Hindi-movie style of courtship that is more harassment than romance.

There is a word for a man who follows you around, insists that you give in to his advances, won't take no for an answer, and continues to believe that you are in love with him despite all evidence to the contrary. In the real world he is called a stalker. In Hindi movies, he is the hero. And somehow, the heroine always obediently falls in love with him in the course of the second song sequence.

As a consequence, all the men who grow up watching their heroes indulge in what is coyly described as 'chhed-chhad', come to believe that this sort of harassment is completely acceptable behaviour. It's all about breaking down her defences. It's all about brow-beating her into submission. And then there's that old chestnut: she may say no, but she actually means yes. You just have to keep at it until she says 'yes' as well.

In other words, these men begin to see stalking as courtship.

But real life is not the movies. And real-life women have this irritating way of not falling in love with their harassers unlike Hindi film heroines. Unfortunately, the men can't seem to tell the difference between reality and the movies and continue to act as if harassment is actually a legitimate form of interaction with the opposite sex. And as a society, we are implicit in trivialising this sexual harassment when we refer to it as 'eve-teasing'.

I think the tragic deaths of Keenan and Reuben should serve as a wake-up call in this regard. These two fine young men didn't die because they were objecting to 'eve-teasing'. They died because they took a stand against the sexual harassment of women. And the fact that nobody stood up for them as they were being stabbed to death shows us just how de-sensitised we have become as a society.

The Santos and Fernandez families will never get their men back. But let's not besmirch their memory by our constant references to 'eve-teasing'. They didn't die because they didn't have a sense of humour. They died because they had a sense of honour. Let's at least respect that.[/quote]
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Posted: 13 years ago
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The biggest contributor to this 'romanticised' notion of 'Eve-teasing' is the Indian television. 😡



So, Aishwarya Rai Bachhan just had a girl 😃
Edited by Abhi911 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#39
Ohhh! THIS is what my twitter timeline was filled with! :o Feel so bad for the guys and their family! :( Seriously there is no humanity left in people!

Twitter talk- I agree with Abhi, Twitter is to be blamed majorly! 150 characters main sab likhna is not easy without sacrificing the grammar! And that is why people have resorted to 'dis'..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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It's really sad what happened to those guys. May their souls rest in peace. Can you honestly blame the bystanders though? Had any of them intervened, they would have been butchered along with the two guys. It's the system that is fault here. There is no sense of security. The rich and/or powerful people abuse their privileges and there is nothing that the law can do against them. Living in place like that, can you really afford to take chances?

Edited by sarah1024 - 13 years ago

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