D3 Downfall - Who's fault is it exactly?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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So by now, finally, finally, most people's tolerance level for the nonsensical crap we are shown in the name of a youth show has been hit. Some with lower level had stopped watching ages ago while others who were still hopeful and more passionate fans stayed watching and are still doing so till now.

Let's talk some serious issues, shall we?

But before we do let's clear two things. One, this is not a fan-based discussion. I refuse to get involved with either of the couple storyline clashes. This is about D3 as a whole.

Two, this is also not related to the actors. I really don't know any of them personally. And to be honest, I like them all on pretty much the same level and know them just as their characters.

Okay moving on, I think this murder of the show can be blamed on two massive factors. And news flash - both of them don't involve the actors.

1. CVs: Yes, they're new. Yes, they took on a mammoth task when they took on D3. And yes, they aren't faring very well. The problem isn't the storyline - shocking I know - it is something else entirely. But I'll get to that in a bit.

2. Fans: D3 is one of the oldest shows on V. Also one of it's longest running I think? Hmm. It also has the most passionate, fierce and at times, vocal fan base ever. Be it for whichever actor, character or pairing. People love hard here.

And those two factors combined is the reason for this non-sense we see on the TV now a days.

The new CVs don't know how to handle the fan pressure. When they came on board, there were loads of expectations associated with them. A certain character was coming back and along with that, a lot of the old fans and new eyeballs. It was their golden moment to shine. So they started by concentrating on the storyline while still coming to terms with fully understanding all the characters. With some they didn't do such a good job. But time was meagre and of essence here so they just go with what they knew would work and keep them afloat. TRPs.

So they build on a storyline. They start to develop it and then the fans get restless. They have demands. They waited. They've been waiting. And worst still, there are all kinds of fans for all kinds of pairings. Who do they keep happy? How do they keep afloat? Again, TRPs. Which means fulfilling wishes.

So they throw in a few LLHH scenes. A few dances here and there. A few interactions. And before you know it, they're doing okay. The fans are watching. There are bite sized scenes for everyone now and then but the storyline - that's been abandoned a long time ago. But it's okay fans are watching and the TRPs are happening and the channel is happy and the CVs sigh a breathe of relief.

Now it's a matter of keeping the momentum going. So they throw in all the run of the mill scenes and dialogues. Whatever is the flavour of the moment, the demand of the hour, they churn it out. Only problem is, now nothing makes sense in the overarching storyline. The characters have been destroyed. The essence of individual relationships have been ruined. It's all eye candy and mush now.
And non-sensical tracks.

Welcome to the new D3. I hope you enjoy your stay.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Res
I really wanna cmnt now bt lec me hu... 🥱
Edited by akankshaArsha - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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res😊
unres..😆

okay, lemmee LAUGH first...🤣🤣

meri darling Kash, you have no idea what an
incendiary device you have just dropped..!! things might get violent pretty soon.!!😆😆😉 well, Kishi will fight for you, as she declaired..

So coming to your post, BANG ON girl..!! yes yes, you have said the most matured and sensical words in a while...without those completely craps on actors and their personal lives and etcetera, you have seen through the real trouble with D3..
There are allready some viewers who knows the exact things you said, and they know allready that every word here said is TRUE...But refused to believe that, and blame it all on CVs..
CVs are at fault..yes they ARE at fault... But not entirely.. We fans (yes am including myself aswell, coz I haven't done that Quiting thing still😃) are majorly at fault too...! "hume yeh chahiye, hume woh chahiye, yeh kyu nahi dikh raha, woh kyu nahi dikh raha" we kept on cribbing, and the CVs, who doesn't know HOW TO HANDLE THIS HUGE FANDOM, *excuse my language*, scr*wed it up..!! Big Time..

"now nothing makes sense in the overarching storyline. The characters have been destroyed. The essence of individual relationships have been ruined. It's all eye candy and mush now.
And non-sensical tracks."
I love these lines the MOST...They wanted to please the fans.. So they ruined the characters..they Ruin the story-line..they forgot what they thought of doing at first, and BINGO, fans are hating them now..!!
Am pretty sure that even after this post and a a few posts like this, Nothing will change..!! The blaming the actors will continue, the fan-wars will continue and so will the UTTER CRAP of D3 CVs...Trying to please the fans, with Random *again excuse my language* SH*T...

That's all..😊
LOve You Kash..😳

Edited by anki_22 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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uggh! log mere se pehle res karne lage hai!!

LUCHHOOO!!


Unres.

We are getting married, aren't we?

Yes we are! 😆

Now, to whoever thinks that blaming the new CVs entirely and saying that isse toh accha Palki ke time tha, I'd like to say that you are being deluded into thinking that the less evil option is the better one.

Because let us be frank, how many solos of Swayam did that period also get? I have been a KR fan from the start, but I have always detested how Reyaansh was GLORIFIED as a HERO. And all that used to happen during PM times too.
The gang used to ruthlessly be of use only in product placement back then as well.

Everybody used to mindless just nod on whatever Rey or Swayam used to say back then too.

The two lead pairs were given all the time, and thus, all other characters were gradually turned to shit, leading to quitting of two side characters too.


So, lets face it, nobody was actually trying to DEVELOP characters even back then.

Then, we just stayed mum coz we hadn't reached our limit of tolerance. If it had been reached back then, then these kind of posts would have made then too.

So, stop putting the entire blame on Ameeta. She is stupid, no doubt about that... But she is not the only one at fault.


Nothing was destroyed overnight. It was a gradual process of rotting things. So, the blame if being given to the CVs, has to be shared by both Palki and Ameeta. After all, Aisa toh hai nahi ki dono entirely doosri COMPANIES se hai joh unhe pata hi naa ho ki kaunsi company kya cheez banaati hai. Both belong to Cinevistaas only.



Next, us. I will be honest KD, I have written demand letters. But I swear, all I have ever asked in those letters is for the story to make sense. But it seems that TRPs really do overrule everything else.

The thing is, ab hum aise mukaam pe pahonch chuke hai, jahaan se D3 ka salvation impossible hai.

Edited by _SenbonZakura_ - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: _SenbonZakura_

uggh! log mere se pehle res karne lage hai!!

LUCHHOOO!!


😆 😉 😆 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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KD-I cannot agree more. You said everything.
And it just makes more crazy, seeing a show which I loved so much go down in the drain because of their faults.

D3 ka storyline kya hai? I feel it is running on week basis :| Thats it.
Edited by Incandescence. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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My PMSing net!!!!!!!! Anyways, ATTACK!!!!!!!!
RES...MI QUERIDA!!!!!

And something couch potato forgot to mention and should have is that don't turn this into a fighting or bashing post...You have a problem, you pm her or scrap her..You don't bash the TM in any way for she is speaking sense...and also, you have to deal with me(not threatening , just saying)...😊😛

UNRES
I agree with everything. You know I do.We have talked about this and you know my opinion. Kash with all my rationality intact and in place, I am still one of the most diehard fans of Kriyansh out there...And the storyline came to such a point that even moi couldn't tolerate it. The abrupt change of tracks gave me whiplash. Now, I won't talk about the characters and their faults. For that is likely to generate an argument and also, it has been talked of enough already.Everyone is aware that the story is going nowhwere and the character sketch went down the drain.You dealt with the best and most important part. The WHY?????
Creative Liberty!!!!!!!
Now I am no Jeffery Archer or Paulo Coelho but whatever I write, I can tell you this with definite surety.You cannot in a thousand years write a story with people holding a gun to your head. The one holding the gun is the fans and the channel here.Instant ridicule and constant pressure can be very demoralizing and that too as soon as you take up a project.And this woman ,I don't think can handle pressure.

And I also believe that Ameeta like any other creative wanted to make the story her own. I understand that. It is often hard to walk in the footsteps of someone else when you are your own person. You know, I believe she wanted to give the characters her own twist. But nevertheless, this was NOT a wise decision.You see, playing with a character is all well and good. But you don't try to change his or her basic traits and change him or her into someone different. People look on with contempt at characters they dont recognise. They dislike them and ultimately you...

And there is another problem that has been there since the very inception of D3 and it is that the show had never focused on the individuality of all the characters. Infact,they don't have characters in the show. No, they have heros and heroines.And clowns and sidekicks. There is only so much you can do with a couple.

And now coming to what I believe is the root cause of the problem. TRP race...There used to be a time when people used to work for their own creative satisfaction. Now they work to garner TRPs...😕 If LLHHs work, then lets flood the show with them , even if they have no relevance in the story whatsoever. Lets keep the fans hanging on a thread and they will keep watching... Kindergarten logic at its best!!!!!
You know, the creatives of this show can take a cue or two from Paanch which has a pre set script and still manages to rake in decent viewers.
You can't please everybody..and that is exactly what the creatives are trying to do...and failing miserably...
And something that I have once told you before and am gonna repeat is that the creatives of Indian TV shows have a huge tendency to insult our intelligence. For some reason, they believe that everything works for us as long as we get romance. Maybe, they think we are love deprived irrational souls. It is highly humiliating...

I really don't know what I have written or more like ranted... I may have just repeated what you said or uttered absolute gibberish. I am past the point of caring...I am so fed up yar.

Thanks for making this post. Maybe (and this is me being foolishly optimistic), the CVs see this and try to maintain a minimal amount of logic. Tell me when that happens. I am going into hibernation🥱

Love you loads,
Kishi



Edited by luvarsha20 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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u r right.. D3 has become a nonsensical crap...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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See fan pressure is there in every show. Cinevistaas of all the people who have been there in the business for a while, should have known how to handle fan pressure! D3 didn't have more fan pressure than IPKKND or EHMMBH- those fan bases of prime time telly are bigger and crazier. Sometimes I like Ekta because she does what she wants to do- she doesn't explain things to appease fan bases via IVs or social networks.
I put the CVs and the channel at fault here. True fanbases wanna see more of SwaRon or KriYaansh but doesn't mean we don't want a good story and only wanna see our couple. In 2011 SwaRon didn't have massive screenspace. But I love 2011 phase of D3 the most even being a hardcore SwaRon fan because there was some good story telling in terms of SwaRon, KriYaansh and the entire team. I loved the boys locker room scenes, the canteen scenes because its those scenes that retained the original essence of D3.
When the couples became popular the Cvs were sailing their boat easily with KR and SS. But then Shakti quit the show and they became paranoid- loss of one massive fanbase. They had to immediately establish another couple. By the time Sneha left, D3 had become all about couples and ReYam. The rest of the team was only for product promotion and caricature.
I dunno why the entire gang nod to Swayam and Rey all the time? Earlier every Weakling and every Dazzler had their unique identity.
D3 went down to the drain only because of the lazy writing and nothing else. I don't know why this happened- is it the CVs who took the easier way out or the channel who wanted to rake in their moolah or both. It's sad because it had so much potential.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -bLEu98-

By the time Sneha left, D3 had become all about couples and ReYam. The rest of the team was only for product promotion and caricature.

I dunno why the entire gang nod to Swayam and Rey all the time? Earlier every Weakling and every Dazzler had their unique identity.
D3 went down to the drain only because of the lazy writing and nothing else. I don't know why this happened- is it the CVs who took the easier way out or the channel who wanted to rake in their moolah or both. It's sad because it had so much potential.



The reddened phrase, I LOVE IT.. so true.. earlier, every person had their uniqueness.. I remember I used to Love Vicky a LOT..and nowadays, does he even has a Voice???
And I think The channel took the easy way out, that's what happened.. India me romance jyada chalta hain, so bas wohi dikhayo, nothing else..
It really had so much potential, But well, nothing more to say now..

Edited by anki_22 - 11 years ago

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