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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam


Helena: Firmly territorial: The little scene between Helena and her junior sauten - no other adjective fits Durdhara as well as this one!😉 - was both revealing and unexpectedly funny.

Helena is like a lioness, an animal which always demarcates its territory and guards it ferociously. She thus makes it clear to the hapless Durdhara that Chandra par kewal mera haq hai! It is not a question of good or bad; she is like that only. Having received frantic and heartfelt assurances from Durdhara on this point, she sashays off smugly.

It is another matter that both her self-confidence on this score, as also Chandra's naive statement later to Durdhara: Wo tujhse nahin jalti! .. and his smug comment: Yeh achcha hai! Patniyaan aapas mein samjhauta karke chalein, ek doosre ko samajhayein, to bechare pati ki samasya hi samapt!, will soon prove to be ill-founded.

Helena, for all his regard for her as his margdarshak, will soon find, if she pushes him beyond a point, that he is no rabbit like the unfortunate Argus. Chandra too will find out that his earlier concerns about matrimonial stresses and strains were justified after all, but probably not just yet. Not till his equation with Nandini changes drastically.

Durdhara: Unalloyed delight: She is more childlike than I would have believed possible in a TV serial female. And this without any slipping into childishness.

I was forced, somewhat to my regret, to abandon my earlier theory of her having conned Chandra into agreeing to marry her by cooking up that story of a wife beating, much older bridegroom that her father had selected for her. This Durdhara is clearly incapable of even such mild deviousness.

She is like nothing so much a sheet of glass that has been thoroughly treated with Windex: transparent, gleaming in the light of the sun. One cannot find the least spot of anything dubious soiling the perfection of her simple, unaffected nature.

The whole of the wedding night scene between her and Chandra is written with such an impeccable comic touch that, coming on top of the earlier such scene between Helena and Chandra, it makes me feel somewhat reassured about these CVs. They are clearly superior to the ordinary run of their tribe, and one can thus harbour some mild hopes about what lies ahead being better, perhaps even much better that what we all fear.

Chandra: Show stealer: In all of that marvellous scene, it is Chandra - with his initial dismay at this strange new creature that his old friend seems to have become, his recovering from that and finding a way back to their old, easy relationship, and finally with his affection and protectiveness towards Durdhara - who steals the show.

The indulgent affection with which he watches her open laughter as she plays the cowrie shell game with him. The wide smile on his face after he has finished reliving their childhood skipping game with her.

The at times wide eyed, at times mock serious, but always amused look on this face as she tells him about her fear of Helena, and then declares that unlike the common run of queens, she will not fight over him with Helena.

The suppressed mischief with which he threatens her that if she does not behave, main use bhej doonga ! (Strongly, if anachronistically reminiscent of Doodh pee lo, nahin to Gabbar Singh aa jaayega!, from Sholay).

Finally, the gentleness with which he pats her head in parting, adding So jao, so jao. And once outside her tent, stands there for a moment with a reminiscent half smile on his face, before Chanakya and the task that awaits him take over once more.

Later, he listens to what she tells Helen about her being har kshetra main mujhse sarva shreshta with calm approval, for he is probably of the same mind, and is also relieved at the absence of catfights between his wives😉. But the special gentleness and affection he has for Durdhura are evident when he takes leave of her, taking pains to reassure her of his early and victorious return, and caressing her cheek in an additional comforting gesture.

Emotional sanctuary:Durdhara, it is clear, will be his oasis, his refuge from the storms that he might face in life. The only one with whom he can be relaxed and, even if only briefly, be free of care. A refuge that he is, tragically, to lose all too soon.

But even in her passing, she will, by awakening in Chandra the need for such an emotional sanctuary, open up a place for her successor in his hriday.

OK, folks, this is it for today. Please do not forget to hit the Like button if you think that is warranted.

See you in two or three days, depending on the developments in the tale.

Shyamala/Aunty/Akka/Di


Aunty

I like chandra dhurudhara relationship from day one

Its just brilliant that you have a childhood friend with whom there are no formality, no hesitation, no shame etc

Other than our parents and siblings only our childhood friends see the real us without any mask on

So you tend to act very care free with them as they know you inside out anyways nothing to hide etc

Look at chandra body language as he enters Dhuradhara tent first carefree swinging of hand - ohh this is my friend whom i am going to meet(not a new unknown bride like helena or nandini)

Then he stops to think this is my friend how can III?
Friends are friends its tough to get other thoughts like lust(first night) about them in real life

Then he goes and sits and asks why ghunghat remove it? and she is giving him respect saying aap aap and ffinally he says be yourself and she immediately reverts back to old friend Dhuradhara

And then he says will you play, may be he wants to relive childhood before war with nand next day. She is hesitant and he pulls her and they play like in childhood, laughing abundantly like two small kids playing in open ground.

Then he tells her to sleep. I would love if he made her sleep put blanket tucked her and then walked off buttt atleast CVs thought this much

Compare that to helenas wedding night, he was literally scared when she called him or nandinis in future which will be an ego oneman ship war

Its tough to get real friends who are so selfless as dhurahara in life, chandra knows that. Even friends change with time depending on what you can give etc but not childhood friends, usually childhood friends is only friendship that stays for life(apart from siblings) and most childhood friends stay with you till end.

Another thing i observe if chandra is 20 years here dhurudhara must be 17-18 years old very young, see how she gets excited to play shells and skipping on wedding day. She is not mature like a helena or nandini, she is still in childhood in terms of mental state. She cannot understand easily politics of world.

That is why after chankya tells chandra to have first night with dhuradhara, dhuradhara refuses to meet chandras eyes and tries to go off the room. She talks about preparing his warrior dress etc but without looking at him or going too near. Because mentally she is a child like and that first night left her shaken. That chandra also knows thats why he says sorry with folded hands because he removed anger of nandini's namard and purushat nayi hai taunt on innocent Dhurudhara. So hes guilty, and she shocked after the first night. She had expected may be he is her best friend will treat her very nicely on first day but here he was removing nandinis taunt anger on her.

I think chankya also sent him to dhurudhara for same purpose. He understood chandra was angry at nandini taunt on his manly ability and if that anger was not removed chandra may falter in warfield hence he said to spend night with dhurudhara to remove his anger.

Now i have one doubt chandra while leavigng for war was in taxila or punjab may be and told dhurudhara wait for me. On war first night she is in pataliputra with him?


Edited by myviewprem - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
No, my pet, no more than he deserves.

I used to carve him up for being too plump in those hamaam scenes in Jodha Akbar, and also when he abandoned his early cold, terrifying sneers and began scrunching up his nose to show rage, till it looked like a misshapen potato, and he looked like a mad bull about to charge. It was awful, and I said so time and again.

However, he is very good 90% of the time and superb for another 5%. Most important, he is an extremely nuanced performer, and I love nuances. There is no one else quite like him in this respect.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

Aunty Sometimes I think you like Rajat too much😆

Edited by sashashyam - 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: amina1

Helena and nandani both were sakhi but both failed to see each others pain nandani did not see helenas pain nor her wound and helena did not see nandnis pain so what is basis of being friends unbelievable


so true .

it would have been much better if they never showed them as friends...😡
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Posted: 8 years ago
My dear Prem,

This is an absolutely beautiful take on what makes a childhood friendship so special, and how utterly charming the Chandra-Durdhura relationship is, and most of all about Durdhura herself. I agree with you 100%, except that I hate the L word, and would by far prefer desire.

I am very sad that we are going to lose Durdhura soon. Kya karein!

Shyamala Aunty

PS: You keep editing and adding to your posts after you post them, which makes responding to them confusing! I have now read what you have added at the end of the post, and I think you are overdoing things as far as the reactions of both Chandra and Durdhura the next morning is concerned. They, especially she, are just trying to get back to their old best friends footing, that is all.

Originally posted by: myviewprem


Aunty

I like chandra dhurudhara relationship from day one

Its just brilliant that you have a childhood friend with whom there are no formality, no hesitation, no shame etc

Other than our parents and siblings only our childhood friends see the real us without any mask on

So you tend to act very care free with them as they know you inside out anyways nothing to hide etc

Look at chandra body language as he enters Dhuradhara tent first carefree swinging of hand - ohh this is my friend whom i am going to meet(not a new unknown bride like helena or nandini)

Then he stops to think this is my friend how can III?
Friends are friends its tough to get other thoughts like lust(first night) about them in real life

Then he goes and sits and asks why ghunghat remove it? and she is giving him respect saying aap aap and ffinally he says be yourself and she immediately reverts back to old friend Dhuradhara

And then he says will you play, may be he wants to relive childhood before war with nand next day. She is hesitant and he pulls her and they play like in childhood, laughing abundantly like two small kids playing in open ground.

Then he tells her to sleep. I would love if he made her sleep put blanket tucked her and then walked off buttt atleast CVs thought this much

Compare that to helenas wedding night, he was literally scared when she called him or nandinis in future which will be an ego oneman ship war

Its tough to get real friends who are so selfless as dhurahara in life, chandra knows that. Even friends change with time depending on what you can give etc but not childhood friends, usually childhood friends is only friendship that stays for life(apart from siblings) and most childhood friends stay with you till end.

Another thing i observe if chandra is 20 years here dhurudhara must be 17-18 years old very young, see how she gets excited to play shells and skipping on wedding day. She is not mature like a helena or nandini, she is still in childhood in terms of mental state.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Helena: Firmly territorial: The little scene between Helena and her junior sauten - no other adjective fits Durdhara as well as this one!😉 - was both revealing and unexpectedly funny.

Helena is like a lioness, an animal which always demarcates its territory and guards it ferociously. She thus makes it clear to the hapless Durdhara that Chandra par kewal mera haq hai! It is not a question of good or bad; she is like that only. Having received frantic and heartfelt assurances from Durdhara on this point, she sashays off smugly.

It is another matter that both her self-confidence on this score, as also Chandra's naive statement later to Durdhara: Wo tujhse nahin jalti! .. and his smug comment: Yeh achcha hai! Patniyaan aapas mein samjhauta karke chalein, ek doosre ko samajhayein, to bechare pati ki samasya hi samapt!, will soon prove to be ill-founded.

Helena, for all his regard for her as his margdarshak, will soon find, if she pushes him beyond a point, that he is no rabbit like the unfortunate Argus. Chandra too will find out that his earlier concerns about matrimonial stresses and strains were justified after all, but probably not just yet. Not till his equation with Nandini changes drastically.

Durdhara: Unalloyed delight: She is more childlike than I would have believed possible in a TV serial female. And this without any slipping into childishness.

I was forced, somewhat to my regret, to abandon my earlier theory of her having conned Chandra into agreeing to marry her by cooking up that story of a wife beating, much older bridegroom that her father had selected for her. This Durdhara is clearly incapable of even such mild deviousness.

She is like nothing so much a sheet of glass that has been thoroughly treated with Windex: transparent, gleaming in the light of the sun. One cannot find the least spot of anything dubious soiling the perfection of her simple, unaffected nature.

The whole of the wedding night scene between her and Chandra is written with such an impeccable comic touch that, coming on top of the earlier such scene between Helena and Chandra, it makes me feel somewhat reassured about these CVs. They are clearly superior to the ordinary run of their tribe, and one can thus harbour some mild hopes about what lies ahead being better, perhaps even much better that what we all fear.

Chandra: Show stealer: In all of that marvellous scene, it is Chandra - with his initial dismay at this strange new creature that his old friend seems to have become, his recovering from that and finding a way back to their old, easy relationship, and finally with his affection and protectiveness towards Durdhara - who steals the show.

The indulgent affection with which he watches her open laughter as she plays the cowrie shell game with him. The wide smile on his face after he has finished reliving their childhood skipping game with her.

The at times wide eyed, at times mock serious, but always amused look on this face as she tells him about her fear of Helena, and then declares that unlike the common run of queens, she will not fight over him with Helena.

The suppressed mischief with which he threatens her that if she does not behave, main use bhej doonga ! (Strongly, if anachronistically reminiscent of Doodh pee lo, nahin to Gabbar Singh aa jaayega!, from Sholay).

Finally, the gentleness with which he pats her head in parting, adding So jao, so jao. And once outside her tent, stands there for a moment with a reminiscent half smile on his face, before Chanakya and the task that awaits him take over once more.

Later, he listens to what she tells Helen about her being har kshetra main mujhse sarva shreshta with calm approval, for he is probably of the same mind, and is also relieved at the absence of catfights between his wives😉. But the special gentleness and affection he has for Durdhura are evident when he takes leave of her, taking pains to reassure her of his early and victorious return, and caressing her cheek in an additional comforting gesture.

Emotional sanctuary:Durdhara, it is clear, will be his oasis, his refuge from the storms that he might face in life. The only one with whom he can be relaxed and, even if only briefly, be free of care. A refuge that he is, tragically, to lose all too soon.

But even in her passing, she will, by awakening in Chandra the need for such an emotional sanctuary, open up a place for her successor in his hriday.

OK, folks, this is it for today. Please do not forget to hit the Like button if you think that is warranted.

See you in two or three days, depending on the developments in the tale.

Shyamala/Aunty/Akka/Di



Edited by sashashyam - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
It makes no difference either way. It was only a very brief interaction anyway.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: cute.manasi


so true .

it would have been much better if they never showed them as friends...😡

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Originally posted by: sashashyam

No, my pet, no more than he deserves.

I used to carve him up for being too plump in those hamaam scenes in Jodha Akbar, and also when he abandoned his early cold, terrifying sneers and began scrunching up his nose to show rage, till it looked like a misshapen potato, and he looked like a mad bull about to charge. It was awful, and I said so time and again.

However, he is very good 90% of the time and superb for another 5%. Most important, he is an extremely nuanced performer, and I love nuances. There is no one quite like him in this respect.

Shyamala Aunty


I have always found his nose like a alloo ka pakoda😆
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MY God, you still are writing essays.😲 God, this looks more like a lit assignment who would make English Professors fill with joy.

The show has no thick plot storyline and is a mess.


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Posted: 8 years ago
agreed...😒

Originally posted by: sashashyam

It makes no difference either way. It was only a very brief interaction anyway.

Shyamala Aunty

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Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Prem,

This is an absolutely beautiful take on what makes a childhood friendship so special, and how utterly charming the Chandra-Durdhura relationship is, and most of all about Durdhura herself. I agree with you 100%, except that I hate the L word, and would by far prefer desire.

I am very sad that we are going to lose Durdhura soon. Kya karein!

Shyamala Aunty

PS: You keep editing and adding to your posts after you post them, which makes responding to them confusing! I have now read what you have added at the end of the post, and I think you are overdoing things as far as the reactions of both Chandra and Durdhura the next morning is concerned. They, especially she, are just trying to get back to their old best friends footing, that is all.




Aunty

you always comment so fast when i am still typing half way so i am posting my remaining comments whats your idea of what i wrote below two paras. Am i right or am i reading too much in chandra dhurudhara first night

That is why after chankya tells chandra to have first night with dhuradhara, dhuradhara refuses to meet chandras eyes and tries to go off the room. She talks about preparing his warrior dress etc but without looking at him or going too near. Because mentally she is a child like and that first night left her shaken. That chandra also knows thats why he says sorry with folded hands because he removed anger of nandini's namard and purushat nayi hai taunt on innocent Dhurudhara. So hes guilty, and she shocked after the first night. She had expected may be he is her best friend will treat her very nicely on first day but here he was removing nandinis taunt anger on her.

I think chankya also sent him to dhurudhara for same purpose. He understood chandra was angry at nandini taunt on his manly ability and if that anger was not removed chandra may falter in warfield hence he said to spend night with dhurudhara to remove his anger.

Now i have one doubt chandra while leavigng for war was in taxila or punjab may be and told dhurudhara wait for me. On war first night she is in pataliputra with him?

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Posted: 8 years ago
If I was your English professor, I would cross out that line and rewrite it as:

God, this looks more like a literature assignment which would fill the hearts of English professors with joy.

I do not know what a thin plot or storyline looks like, but I am content that this show does not have a a "thick plot storyline". And as for most of our serials, the plot line is usually a mess, so that is nothing new.

Finally, don't worry about our writing essays. We enjoy it, but there is no compulsion for casual visitors like you to join in!😉

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: NepaliStrawbery

MY God, you still are writing essays.😲 God, this looks more like a lit assignment who would make English Professors fill with joy.


The show has no thick plot storyline and is a mess.


Alkeha..

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