Chandra Nandini 29-30: Samhaar! - Page 13

Created

Last reply

Replies

143

Views

12.4k

Users

28

Likes

442

Frequent Posters

sashashyam thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 8 years ago
That, my dears, is because Nandini is not a rounded off character at all. She is only a 2D cardboard cutout.

Pakhi, it would take a lot for Chandra to move away from his now livid hatred of her, which almost chokes him whenever he looks at her. And to move towards love, a lot more. There was nothing like this kind of hatred on either side in Jodha Akbar. I wonder what wonderful traits he is going to discover in this 2D creature for him to undergo this tectonic shift.

For now, when Durdhara dies, the grief and the sense of loss for Chandra will be terrible.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: pakhiv.

khushi,
I feel after six months or so both chandra and durdhara will Realise their love.
Till it's time for her adieu... Or may be nandini also starts pulling the strings of chandra hridaya...
But one thing major is you pointed out very well they're establishing this symbolism but here too it's one sided they're not showing nandini getting flashbacks of chandra.
Nandini comes in his dreams and all but not vice versa..
It should be balanced.

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

Durdhara does not show it, because she herselfdoes NOT know it, Aunty...that she loves Chandra, that is😃

@ pink: the aversion to physical intimacy is because of his aversion to the feeling of love, which he thinks renders a person weak & not in control of oneself, but rather in the control of "love"
Given his goals in life, he thinks love will only be a nuisance in his life...

I agree, RT's performance here was truly exceptional...only he could have carried it off...but Nandini calling him "namard" & his mind using that as a catalyst for him to obey his acharya's demand for a progeny from him & Durdhara was too OTT, & hence, almost comical, I thought😆

I think the CVs are clearly trying to establish that Chandra is unable to remain unaffected by Nandini & her words...even during their hate period...hence, I wrote about "credit to Nandini", Aunty😆

(PS: n I thought Justin was for real😃...me n my zero knowledge of history😆)




sashashyam thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 8 years ago
Oh, so that is what you meant. I thought you were referring to their latest encounter.

But Helena asks Nandini then, Amina, and she does say that she is happy. Even if Helena had looked at her face then, there was nothing to indicate Nandini's reservations. Anyhow, one does not expect much consistency in such half-baked, short duration so-called friendships!


Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: amina1

aunty i meant both of them helena did not see nandanis discomfort and how she wasnt happy but jumped to her own conclosion

amina1 thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
True Aunty but how this love story is going to unfold is beyond me how this girl is going to fall for this guy who killed her father and brothers and i dont know why chandra should marry this girl atall
pakhiv. thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">That, my dears, is because Nandini is not a rounded off character at all. She is only a 2D cardboard cutout.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Pakhi, it would take a lot for Chandra to move away from his now livid hatred of her, which almost chokes him whenever he looks at her. And to move towards love, a lot more. There was nothing like this kind of hatred on either side in Jodha Akbar. I wonder what wonderful traits he is going to discover in this 2D creature for him to undergo this tectonic shift.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">For now, when Durdhara dies, the grief and the sense of loss for Chandra will be terrible.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Shyamala Aunty</font>


<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"> </font>-
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"> </font>

so apt a card board cut out.
Really they need to develop the character of nandini without any help from the actress.
The voice modulation of Shweta is also pathetic. Avantika was very elegant in the last episode.
She had the grace and the poise.
But tanu simply overshadowed Shweta there.
sashashyam thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 8 years ago
From his side, to make her life a living hell. From her side, for getting her revenge on him, though how she is going to do that from the aajeevan karaavaas is the question! But probably she had no idea that was in the offing.

From Chanakya's side, it would be to neutralise any residual Nand-supporters around. That was the motive in the 1990 Chanakya. There, Chandragupta is literally forced by Chanakya to marry Nand's daughter for this reason alone.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: amina1

True Aunty but how this love story is going to unfold is beyond me how this girl is going to fall for this guy who killed her father and brothers and i dont know why chandra should marry this girl atall

Edited by sashashyam - 8 years ago
harrybird thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 8 years ago

Yipee...Finally caught up with your post!🥳

I did't like this post Aunty...I SIMPLY LOVEEED IT!❤️❤️❤️

Aunty, I am not a die hard romantic( I think Rajat's romantic expressions made me go gaga over it 😳) Basically, I am a dishoom dishoom girl who prefers action movie over love story any day. May be thats one of the reason I loved this post of yours very much. After reading this post, I tend to believe you are also like me!😆 Also, this is the first time I get to see you analyzing action scenes with such great detail (or may be this is the first time we got such good war scene worthy of your analysis?) 😉


May sound cliche...But its a fact...your writing has taken this war scene to yet another level altogether. Simply Brilliant! 👏👏👏

You have described all my favourite scenes & moments so beautifully in this post which includes Chand-Malay & Chand-Nand Encounter👍🏼, Chandu's SR No 1 with Biwi No 2😆, Predator-Prey head nodding😛, Killer side look towards nandni😎, That cute half smile outside the tent...Simply Awesome Aunty!⭐️⭐️⭐️



Originally posted by: sashashyam

End game:

Chandragupta has finally, after a very hard fought struggle, managed to get the better of the gigantic Malayaketu.

Earlier, they had seemed more or less evenly matched. Even after he has been unhorsed, Malayaketu manages to trip up Chandra - who descends from his horse for a reason which I at least failed to grasp! - with a circular sweep of his leg. In the next round, each kicks the other flat on his back.

But Chandra comes to his feet with the swift athletic move of a trained gymnast, drums on his chest and roars, exactly like, if I could be permitted a most anachronistic comparison, Tarzan, Lord of the Jungle. It is a scary sight.


Perhaps in tune with that ferocious mood - wanting to wreak bare-handed vengeance on his foe - he discards his sword and rushes at Malayaketu. The impact when they collide is like two mountains crashing into each other. When they then headbutt each other repeatedly, and blood trickles down their foreheads, it is as if this is the preparation for a blood sacrifice. But by whom and of whom?

The answer comes almost immediately, as Chandra, who bares his teeth in a vulpine snarl, is picked up and tossed to the ground by Malayaketu. But before his enemy can move to the kill, Chandra somersaults in a full circle, with a lithe grace that owes nothing to VFX, and kicks Malayaketu backwards. He then grabs his opponent, heaves his huge body up, literally over his own head, roars again like the predator he is at that moment, and dumps it on the ground with a resounding thud. End of Malayaketu.

Successful ruse: Chandra, however, is not even looking at his enemy sprawled helplessly on the ground. He is looking across at Padmanand, safely ensconced behind rows and rows of infantry, at the very centre of the Magadha vyuh. Chanakya's astute advice echoes in his mind as he waits. Waits for what he knows will come.

And come it does. For Padmanand, wild with fear for Malayaketu as Chandra makes as if to spear him with two swords in a double blow, leaves his zone of safety, and rushes out to take Chandra on and save his would be jamaata.

Chandra looks up at the sound of Padmanand's scream Naaa...iii!!, his eyes alight with anticipation.

Up on the hill, Chanakya smiles.

Chandra's eyes begin to crinkle and gleam, his mouth widens in a smile of pure gratification. His head nods from side to side in delight: his guru's ploy has paid off! He tosses his head back, and opens his mouth wide in a savage, leonine roar.

It was a wonderful little sequence of fast changing expressions, of the kind that very few but Rajat can pull off.






















Amazing agility: What follows is one instance where VFX is used to create a sequence that might, just might have been physically possible given enough agility on the one hand, and perfect co-ordination on the other.

As his soldiers position themselves, one after the other, at intervals, their shields held horizontally aloft, Chandra, running across the battlefield to gain momentum, leaps on to the first shield, and then leapfrogs from one to the other till he is just above the level of the galloping Padmanand. Who is so bemused and taken aback by this sudden apparition that he does not even think of reacting till he is knocked off his black charger. Lovely stuff.


The timing of vengeance: He beats back a rush by Nand's sons with the same, brutally effective circular sweep of his sword. As Padmanand shouts to his sons to safeguard Nandini, there comes another classic snippet.

Chandra looks across at Nandini, now struggling in the hold of her brothers, and his gaze rests on her for a long, long moment. One can practically see his earlier promise to her flashing across his mind: Tumhara dand hoga ki tum swayam, apni aankhon se, apne pita, apne bhaiyon ka vadh hote dekhogi.. Main unke pran tumhari aankhon ke saamne loonga!

His eyes narrow down to mere slits as he looks in the other direction, at Padmanand who is still nursing his bleeding arm. As they square off once more, Chandra sends the heavy Padmanand reeling with a kick, slashes at him, and twists his sword to the ground. Next his trademark swivelling jump, a twist in mid-air, and he brings Padmanand down with a strong, clockwise swipe of his sword.

As his enemy lies supine on the ground, his eyes for once full of fear, as Nandini screams and struggles with her brothers who hold her fast (and carefully avoid doing anything to help their father!), Chandragupta Maurya raises both his arms high above his head, his sword firm in their grasp. His muscles tense under the strain as he leans back farther and father. His eyes looks almost insane with fury and bloodlust as he lets out a full throated roar: Yaaa... iii... aaa!!!

The samhaar, the total destruction of evil that is the recurrent motif in our puranas, which do not believe in namby pamby half measures, is but a millisecond away.

Folks,

For those wondering why I have split off the last part of the nirnaayak yudh for Magadha , and also why I have gone into the action in such detail, there are two reasons for it.

One, after rewatching the episode long battle, I realised that my first, hasty conclusion, that the first battle was better than this one, was wrong.

Aerial views: This one was larger in scale, and has been shot more imaginatively with overhead shots used for the first time. Not just for individual encounters, but most effectively while showing the first wave of Chandra's army rushing, in spearhead formation, at the massed ranks of the enemy. The shot of them surging in from the right, hitting the wall of the enemy formation and plunging into it, was the most striking battlefield shot I have seen so far in Indian TV.



Unique catalyst: The other plus point was the unmistakable fusion, in Chandra's psyche and in the mind of the viewer, of the maa element and the maathrubhoomi element. A merging that is mirrored in the two tilaks he gets - the maathi ka tilak that he applies himself, and the rakta tilak that his mother applies to his name.

The two elements combine to form the potent catalyst that drives Chandragupta to unprecedented heights of courage, daring, and derring do on the battlefield. He has always been a superb fighter, but here he is like a man possessed, thirsting to wreak a vengeance that is both patriotic and personal, and thus far more ferocious and reckless than ever before. A matchless, unbeatable warrior, against whom no one and nothing can stand.

Gone now is any hint of self-doubt, of the fear about proving himself. The only mantra that echoes thru his psyche is: Is baar main yudh ladoonga aur jeetoonga, kyonki is baar yudh ladega CHANDRAGUPTA MAURYA!!

He is like a one man army, here, there and everywhere, scything his way thru the enemy ranks like the Grim Reaper. No wonder that Chanakya's assistant exclaims in awe: Acharya, Chandragupta ki is yuddh mein ek adbhut shaili hai, ek adbhut oorja!

Rajat brings this juggernaut of a warrior on to the screen with such skill, such conviction, and so sure a touch that after the first two minutes, one forgets that there is any Rajat Tokas. There is only Chandragupta Maurya. To watch him for these 20 odd minutes is a treat of the highest order. 👏👏👏


Chandra: Show stealer: In all of that marvellous scene, it is Chandra - with his initial dismay at this strange new creature that his old friend seems to have become, his recovering from that and finding a way back to their old, easy relationship, and finally with his affection and protectiveness towards Durdhara - who steals the show.

The indulgent affection with which he watches her open laughter as she plays the cowrie shell game with him.

The wide smile on his face after he has finished reliving their childhood skipping game with her.

The at times wide eyed, at times mock serious, but always amused look on this face as she tells him about her fear of Helena, and then declares that unlike the common run of queens, she will not fight over him with Helena.

The suppressed mischief with which he threatens her that if she does not behave, main use bhej doonga ! (Strongly, if anachronistically reminiscent of Doodh pee lo, nahin to Gabbar Singh aa jaayega!, from Sholay).

Finally, the gentleness with which he pats her head in parting, adding So jao, so jao. And once outside her tent, stands there for a moment with a reminiscent half smile on his face, before Chanakya and the task that awaits him take over once more.


Later, he listens to what she tells Helen about her being har kshetra main mujhse sarva shreshta with calm approval, for he is probably of the same mind, and is also relieved at the absence of catfights between his wives😉. But the special gentleness and affection he has for Durdhura are evident when he takes leave of her, taking pains to reassure her of his early and victorious return, and caressing her cheek in an additional comforting gesture.

Emotional sanctuary:Durdhara, it is clear, will be his oasis, his refuge from the storms that he might face in life. The only one with whom he can be relaxed and, even if only briefly, be free of care. A refuge that he is, tragically, to lose all too soon.

But even in her passing, she will, by awakening in Chandra the need for such an emotional sanctuary, open up a place for her successor in his hriday.

OK, folks, this is it for today. Please do not forget to hit the Like button if you think that is warranted.

See you in two or three days, depending on the developments in the tale.

Shyamala/Aunty/Akka/Di


PS: Aunty, This reply post took nearly 3 hours. My regular Pic post would take 5-6 hrs. So, I prefer to post only during weekends. But after reading this post, I cud not resist myself, stayed late night & made this post...all credit to your beautiful & inspiring piece of writing!
karkuzhali thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago

Three Cheers for Shyamala and Anjali!!!
Hip , Hip, Horray! 👏👏👏

Saraswathi Akka/Aunty.







Originally posted by: harrybird


Yipee...Finally caught up with your post!🥳

I did't like this post Aunty...I SIMPLY LOVEEED IT!❤️❤️❤️

Aunty, I am not a die hard romantic( I think Rajat's romantic expressions made me go gaga over it 😳) Basically, I am a dishoom dishoom girl who prefers action movie over love story any day. May be thats one of the reason I loved this post of yours very much. After reading this post, I tend to believe you are also like me!😆 Also, this is the first time I get to see you analyzing action scenes with such great detail (or may be this is the first time we got such good war scene worthy of your analysis?) 😉


May sound cliche...But its a fact...your writing has taken this war scene to yet another level altogether. Simply Brilliant! 👏👏👏

You have described all my favourite scenes & moments so beautifully in this post which includes Chand-Malay & Chand-Nand Encounter👍🏼, Chandu's SR No 1 with Biwi No 2😆, Predator-Prey head nodding😛, Killer side look towards nandni😎, That cute half smile outside the tent...Simply Awesome Aunty!⭐️⭐️⭐️




PS: Aunty, This reply post took nearly 3 hours. My regular Pic post would take 5-6 hrs. So, I prefer to post only during weekends. But after reading this post, I cud not resist myself, stayed late night & made this post...all credit to your beautiful & inspiring piece of writing!

pakhiv. thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
Shyamala aunty rules
and anjali rocks.. 👏 👏 ⭐️
Muaaah to both of you...
sashashyam thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 8 years ago
My darling little Anjali,

What a treat, my love! Thanks a million, for even though there is no point in my inserting these wonderful photos in my post at this stage, when almost anyone interested has already read it, I had a tremendous amount of fun going thru them.

I really missed the photos when I was writing this post last Monday, and I had hoped that you would be bestirring yourself and doing one of your special threads over the weekend from which I could borrow them. Of course I drew a blank, but now you have made up for that with this gorgeous set of illustrations. You have even got the shield-hopping shot!👏

Yes, of course it takes time to do anything like this as well as you do. And the end product shows the effort that went into it. But I can readily understand the constraints on your time,even for such labours of love.

Most of you might not realise it, but a post like this one takes me 4/5 hours to write and edit, and then anything from 1 hour to 90 minutes to rewatch the relevant episodes and make notes when necessary. That adds up to 5/6 hours each time, twice a week, and I am not counting the time and effort taken on the responses, given my RA affected fingers.

But never mind the effort, jab tumhein yeh itna pasand aaya, to meri mehnat ke paise vasool ho gaye!

I am also delighted that you loved the battle sections in this post so much. I tried extra hard and spent far more time on them than usual - watching the episode 3 times to get the sequences right - in an effort to make them more "visual"- and I am glad to see that I have managed to do that to some extent, though of course one can never, no matter how hard one tries, compensate for the absence of the visuals. And yes, you are right, this was the first time I found a battle scene that needed to be described in such detail.

When you say that I have described all your favourite moments so well, what it means is that we feel alike about the material, and our choices of our favourite scenes match to a very large extent. That is interesting, given the generation gap!

Love you, kid.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: harrybird


Yipee...Finally caught up with your post!🥳

I did't like this post Aunty...I SIMPLY LOVEEED IT!❤️❤️❤️

Aunty, I am not a die hard romantic( I think Rajat's romantic expressions made me go gaga over it 😳) Basically, I am a dishoom dishoom girl who prefers action movie over love story any day. May be thats one of the reason I loved this post of yours very much. After reading this post, I tend to believe you are also like me!😆 Also, this is the first time I get to see you analyzing action scenes with such great detail (or may be this is the first time we got such good war scene worthy of your analysis?) 😉


May sound cliche...But its a fact...your writing has taken this war scene to yet another level altogether. Simply Brilliant! 👏👏👏

You have described all my favourite scenes & moments so beautifully in this post which includes Chand-Malay & Chand-Nand Encounter👍🏼, Chandu's SR No 1 with Biwi No 2😆, Predator-Prey head nodding😛, Killer side look towards nandni😎, That cute half smile outside the tent...Simply Awesome Aunty!⭐️⭐️⭐️




PS: Aunty, This reply post took nearly 3 hours. My regular Pic post would take 5-6 hrs. So, I prefer to post only during weekends. But after reading this post, I cud not resist myself, stayed late night & made this post...all credit to your beautiful & inspiring piece of writing!

Edited by sashashyam - 8 years ago
lashy thumbnail
20th Anniversary Thumbnail Trailblazer Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 8 years ago
Thanks for the photos Anjy... I know they're late for Periyamma's post... but they were just in time! For me!
👏

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".