Chandra Nandini 23-25: Helen 2.0

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sashashyam

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Posted: 8 years ago

#11

My dear child,

Only you could give kudos for my guesswork, for it is usually so dismal that whenever I venture some prediction, I mostly end up flat on my face and have to wear sackcloth and ashes for a week!😉 But this time, I think I am, for once, on a safe wicket, and it is surely going to be a three handkerchief weepie located in the kaaragrih!😉 For there can be no other earthly reason for lugging Chandra there, to the palace, I mean.

I am waiting with bated breath to see Chandra trying to conduct a sacred ceremony. Is he going to sport a shaven head and a choti? These are all momentous questions, but what I really hope is that his disguise this time is at least passable!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: durgeshnandini
I suppose the CVs want Chandra to meet Mura once again, and his real identity to be discovered this time, but could they not think fo something more plausible? For one thing, how does a priest sneak ino the kaaragrih? And what of the earlier precap, with Nandini displaying the mayurpankhdesign and babbling about some song that Chandra hums, with Padmanand's subsequent plan to blackmail him by getting hold of his (foster)parents? Questions, questions!

Kudos to your guesswork 👏👏👏

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sashashyam

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Posted: 8 years ago

#12

Thank you so much, my dear Varala.

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: varala
Great analysis 👏👏
Thanks for pm 😊

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Shailaja

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Posted: 8 years ago

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Aunty, I really have nothing much to add. I have exhausted all that I wanted to say in my previous posts in your previous thread. I think the only possible reason is because CVs want Chandra and Nandini to be in the same frame again.

Now, for some reason, I am getting my second and third thoughts about the order of Pathnis. Is Nandini going to be the second wife followed by Durdhara as the last? My CV vibes are giving me this feeling! I may be wrong anyhow! There is no mention anywhere of Durdhara. I don't think they have more than two weeks to waste over getting Chandra married to their lucky number of 3 wives. So, supposing the entire war was done in a week and Chandra got married to Nandini and then the Durdhara drama begins, and that marriage too is concluded in a week.

Aunty did anyone here praise Nandini except Bharat Mata of course? Whatever or whoever Helena is, narcissistic or not, she is much better at the present moment than Nandini. As a matter of fact, she is very likable and relatable. She looks just like any other human being I might have met. I just tolerate Nandini waiting for her to grow up and redeem herself. I find her totally unbelievable in some respects.

As regards, Chandra's disguise, how would one similar to the old school crony of Chanakya suit him? Padmanand, Rakshas, or Nandini, or all three put together will not discover him in such a disguise. I hope something solid comes out of this spying mission:

1) Meeting Moora and Vaishali and finding his truthful lineage and about Nand's atrocities to his family.

2)Sneaking in a few of his men inside and opening the fort doors for a surprise night attack.

3) Winning over Malayketu by clever persuasive skills and switch sides at the very last moment to the Chanakyan side because he sees more benefit in remaining with his former guru than with Nand and his Putri Nandini.

PS:1) Malayaketu landed fortunately the first time at Magadh for the engagement. The second time, he was already present at Magadh to help them in the second battle. But I feel what is actually helping Nand and Co by having Malayketu on their side is the fact that he was also a very old student of Chanakya just like Chandra. So he seems to be able to put himself in Chanakya's shoes and anticipate perfectly what kind of schemes or war strategies he was coming up with. This makes it easier for the Magadhan side to be fully prepared in war. And I did not get another thing while watching. Was the spy who was caught working for Nand and Rakshas or for Malayketu?

2) Is Chandra going to steal Rakshas's royal mudrika and are Chanakya and Chandra going to use it to weaken the Nandas as was shown in the classic ancient Indian play Mudrarakshasam?

3) According to history, Chanakya used dancers and courtesans as spies in his spy network along with male spies. Will that happen on the show?

Edited by shailusri1983 - 8 years ago

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fanjarajat

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Posted: 8 years ago

#14

Your write up has generated enough interest in me to watch the episodes. Will look for the cues that drew sarcasm out of you.

Few i can understand w/o having to watch the show..Padmamanand a good politician :-)😊

I am liking the angle of Chandra- Helena relationship that they are building. No screaming screeching jealousy angle. A great friendship/support system in the making.

Loved the venture Capitalist analogy ..wow

Looking forward to catching up with the episodes.

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sashashyam

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Posted: 8 years ago

#15

Please do watch them, Abhaya, especially nos, 24 & 25, with the two Helena-Chandra scenes. You will then get a proper idea of what I have been describing here.

Chandra, now Chandragupta Maurya, is fast developing a very comfortable equation with his wife. Witness the way in which he takes her to meet his childhood friend, Durdhara, and announces, with placid amusement,that he has married her.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: fanjarajat
Your write up has generated enough interest in me to watch the episodes. Will look for the cues that drew sarcasm out of you.
Few i can understand w/o having to watch the show..Padmamanand a good politician :-)😊

I am liking the angle of Chandra- Helena relationship that they are building. No screaming screeching jealousy angle. A great friendship/support system in the making.
Loved the venture Capitalist analogy ..wow

Looking forward to catching up with the episodes.

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sashashyam

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Posted: 8 years ago

#16

Welcome back, my dear Ria! I am always very pleased when you turn up on my threads with your invariably sensible comments. Just come in when you can, and don't bother about apologising for when you can't.

I am so glad that you liked the parts of my take on Helena that I liked too, these, and the final section about her crucial scene with Chandra at the riverside. Of course the post wedding one as well, that was a laugh riot!

I too hope that the Chandra-Helena relationship stays solid and mutually supportive.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: BabyHimavari
Okk aunty here I am with my two scents for now... apologies for not replying before as my life is really busy now days...
I have nothing more to say as like always you summed up the points and explained them in your intriguing effective words... ❤️... well I am already a shipper of helena 😆... and I am admiring her more and more after reading your pots...
i would like to draw some lines from your posts..
Many here in fact sound exactly like Bharatmata, who pontificates, with deep disapproval , about the difference between one beti, the self-centred, disloyal Helena, and the other beti, the sanskaari Nandini, whose loyalty to her pitamaharaj makes her the human equivalent of Gandhiji's Three Monkeys rolled into one
I was laughing so hard while reading this... 😆😆... aunty ur scenes of sarcasm really rocks..👏👏
For Helena is neither a devil nor a paragon of all the virtues. She is just human, with all the grey areas that this implies, and a female at that.
She is also an excellent tactician and planner. Once she is sure that her father will not go to war against Parvatak and Magadha on her behalf, she wastes no time switching her focus to Chandra. A shrewd strategist, who understands human nature, she knows that she needs to give him something solid to get him to move in the matter. Whence the offer of her father's army. She knows full well that Chandra and Chanakya will, in their own interest, minimize the human losses among the Greek troops when they attack them, and that they will treat her father well. Which is precisely what happens.
The marriage proposal takes her by surprise, but she is intelligent, and realises at once what Chanakya's aim is in making it. She has no objection, for she will, on her side, derive the same benefit from the deal.
and true to say that these traits of her character making me admire her very much..As she is free of the so called usually defined jinx of "Bharatiya Nari" character... Its not like that I am disgraceful towards the Indian culture. But the presentation of Indian Woman in today's media, specially in daily soaps makes me cringe very badly. Its not the Indian Woman or I can correctly say the strong inspiring woman character I have read till the date.. They were not from the "Sacrifice Personification" or "Parents above everything, even the reality.." category. Their respect for parents didn't blinded their vision for reality. With their grey shades and different traits of characters, they were the true inspiration of strong Indian woman for me..
Helena is real breath of fresh air as you mentioned. In fact I have already started loving Chandra-Helena and I am doubtful that i would ever develop such admiration towards Chandra-nandini.. well time will say.
I will come with more detailed reply if time permits. And do take care about your health...😊

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sashashyam

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Posted: 8 years ago

#17

My dear Adwitiya,

I am getting set to open the bubbly, to celebrate one of the rare occasions when I was right about a plot prediction. Having downed the champagne, I shall then dance as lively a jig as I can manage given the state of my non-replaced knee!😆 Do join me in the celebrations!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: sashashyam
My dear child,

Only you could give kudos for my guesswork, for it is usually so dismal that whenever I venture some prediction, I mostly end up flat on my face and have to wear sackcloth and ashes for a week!😉 But this time, I think I am, for once, on a safe wicket, and it is surely going to be a three handkerchief weepie located in the kaaragrih!😉 For there can be no other earthly reason for lugging Chandra there, to the palace, I mean.

I am waiting with bated breath to see Chandra trying to conduct a sacred ceremony. Is he going to sport a shaven head and a choti? These are all momentous questions, but what I really hope is that his disguise this time is at least passable!

Shyamala Aunty

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sashashyam

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Posted: 8 years ago

#18

I am very pleased that you liked this one so much, my dear Riyya.

Well, it is CN, and I think they have named it so as otherwise everyone would assume that it was CH!

As for Bharatmata, I do wish she would just go away!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: riyya6
Aunty once again fantastic post ...

👍🏼

I'm in love with Chandra Helena already ... the actress playing helena is complementing rajat very well ..im looking forward for more scenes of the duo ... Aunty right now im really confuse whether im watching CN or CH ... stand to be guided by Cvs

Aunty the other part that crack me up is the ...bharatmata... 😆

Take care Aunty

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sashashyam

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Posted: 8 years ago

#19

My dear Adwitiya,

What a charming and unusual set of comments! Thank you!

For one thing, I have never before been compared to a TV set, or called erudite! For another,

I am delighted that you noted and liked the comparison between the dawning strength and confidence in Chandra'a eyes and the rays of the rising sun. I was rather pleased with that one myself!

Helena-Chandra 1 was pure delight, was it not? I too was completely surprised by that, and I wonder who wrote it. Of course it would not have worked without Rajat's nervous, tentative, worried take on Chandra in that situation, but Helena was very good too. She was effortlessly and non-abrasively dominant, and that was a pleasant change.

I will make sure Ranjana reads your compliment to her for that brilliant, tongue in cheek description of what might have been going thru Helena's mind as she regards her latest acquisition!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: durgeshnandini
It was a treat to revisit the episodes, once again from such an amazing television, as you! With befitting analogies to the illustrious Helen of Troy, and the short yet impacting ones like the rays of the rising Sun, heralding the day as Chandra discovers new hopes in Helena and her gracing presence. ⭐️

This Chandra camouflaging as a priest angle doesn't make any plausible sense, but for the CVs trying to create some more spicy melodrama, to add to the already overflowing melodrama hub of Pataliputra 😆. As for the subtle humour lacing that after wedding scene, well I was somewhat taken aback, for I never imagined that the filmy minds of the CVs could churn up something practical, yet tickling. But for Rajat, that wouldn't have been as much a success, as it was!

As for the rest, it was in your usual flair for precision combined with erudition, that brings out the best of best things. The leisurely, offhand jibes at the infrared Nandini, Morpankh and Mura, and the Bharatma, we're equally delightful... as were the details of the eye language in RT's close up shots ⭐️

I would wind up here, and please do convey my regards to Ranjana aka kautilya04, for conjuring up that exquisite line, Helena's description was never so glorious before 👏