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Posted: 8 years ago
#31
She, my dear Disha, is the CVs' idea of comic relief. It is exactly like the 1970s films, there was always a fat girl in the college picnic party who had to pushed into the bus sideways and dragged out the same way, as otherwise she would get stuck. I did not like those scenes even in those politically incorrect days. Now, 40 years later, to see the same thing in a current TV serial is bizarre.

Come to think of it, there is more retro stuff there, Nandini and her sakhis dressing up as men to trap the (pseudo) Parvathak Malayaketu. That was the sort of thing Asha Parekh specialised in, and she had the same round face like this Nandini, which was not at all credible being passed off as a man's face!

As far as doing well goes, Rajat is doing exceedingly well, whether in the comic scene with Malayaketu or right at the end, when he turns to look at Nandini in her male avatar. His profile is classic, and the look on the face when he turns fully towards her is half quizzical, half uncertain, as it should be with a boy of his background masquerading as a prince.

I don't know as yet about Shwetha. Her giggling reminded me again of Asha Parekh, and that is not a compliment! But I dare say she will improve, when she gets something more to do that play the ladli beti

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: .FemmeFatale.

As long as there are good scenes, I don't mind the pace I guess. Shweta And Rajat are doing well

Btw, is anybody else getting annoyed by the pregnant nanad? Loud and obnoxious! Sorry, but that's not how a princess behaves, a married one at that

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Posted: 8 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: BrienneOfTarth

I found something I had to share since it relates to the episode. Have a look.🤓


For those who who can't do so...its a video of a shaolin monk running on water.😳There are other vids of this kind too but I am posting just this link.

Second, I just saw the episode. When the voice of Bharatmata told us yesterday that our leads were gonna cross paths soon, I did not expect it to be in the very next episode. Jet speed ahead.🤪


Now what I saw in the video was a realistic feat. It is something which can be done with skill, efficiency, practice and hard work. For the life of me I fail to understand how one can run on floating leaves. If it was floating stones or planks in the episode, it would have seemed somewhat credible. The movie I cited in my previous post has Surya enacting the role of the founder of Shaolin
Soccer temples, Bodhidharma.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#33
What is it with this Hey Aunty? 😉I PMed you thrice but you never turned up,so I dropped you from the list, and now you turn up! Do you want me to reinstate you?

You know, all this talk of masterpiece analyses sounds to me very much like softsoaping, my dear Nancy!😉 Never mind, you should first focus on your exams. All this will keep.

As for the current Chanakya, I have already forgotten Khallatak. if you try harder, so will you. Especially after tonight's episode, where he looks and sounds almost clairvoyant. He was very good in Mahadev, and as Khallatak too, come to think of it. I am sure he will grow into this role too.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: NJAPA_Addict

Hey Aunty! 🤗 I wanna thank you from the deepest of my heart for taking so much pain to come up with such masterpiece analyses of all the episodes... but, somewhere we are greedy and love these! ❤️ I am yet to watch Rajat's entry wala episode and further episodes ... watched the initial ones... and also skimmed thru previous posts of urs.. and others comments. Had a good laughing time reading hilarious comments 😆 Iam back to lala land after watching promo ... RT ☺️ And am disappointed with the one who plays Chanakya now... cannot even imagine him as Chanakya.. coz his role in Ashoka is imprinted on my mind... nevermind.. will bear anything for RT ... I will catch up on the threads here later on since busy with exams... but all of you ppl, amazing amzing discussions!!!! 🤗 Keep them coming. (And Nancy it is, Aunty 😳 )

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Posted: 8 years ago
#34
Thank you, Amina, par shubh shubh bolo bachchi! If Ashwini and Lavina turn up here, I would be strongly tempted to run away, Rajat or no Rajat!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: amina1

Great post,Aunty,i enjoyed the episode,rajat filmy style entry and yes i had to watch that bhojan scene thrice, now Aunty i wont be surprised if lavina or ashwini make appeaance,😆 ketan here to hes dreaming about being a king,oh my hope he doesnt end up with a jaweda,oh what a duaghter in law 🤢 ,nanad doesnt look like a villian he seems to be a god father and good father in law 😆 even aj kal ki bahu wouldnt talk to theire fil in that loud tone,oh my my

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Posted: 8 years ago
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My dear Niki,

You and I , as you would have seen from my post, are pretty much of the same mind about most of what happened yesterday. Especially regarding my second standout sequence in the bhojshala, where he literally zones Malayaketu out completely, which you have liked so much as well.

Your point in the highlighted part, something that I had not picked up, is spot on. He really has grown up. Absolutely, It is as if usne apni indriyon par kaboo kar liya hai, khas kar uske krodh par.

He is still all the time, but it is the stillness at the centre of a spinning top, stillness in the midst of frenetic inner motion.

It was the same tonight, which I shall discuss in my post tomorrow, when he loses the archery competition to Malayaketu for reasons that he explains only when asked for it by Chanakya. There was no anger at the loss, no frustration, nothing at all. Amazing in both concept and execution.

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: mistofshadows

Di,

While seeing Rajat onscreen was a sheer moment of pleasure, I was really disappointed by his introduction. The excess of VFX and seemingly out-of-the-world moves did not endear me any to the cv's of the serial. In fact perhaps I had pinned my hopes a bit too high for I was hoping for something tantalizing and definitely not a VFX Spear Wheel !

*sigh*

Next...Rajat deserves👏
What a performance!
First of all, he has lost much of his weight and looks younger (memories of PrithviRaj Chauhan and Dharam Veer) and he looks way more handsome. There was something climatically and dastardly attractive about the Saffron claded Yodha and he owned the screen from the moment he appeared.

Another thing I liked was the subtle growth they have shown in Chandra's character. The younger Chandra had a blazing temper and his eyes reflected it. But the older one has successfully tamed it for his eyes reflect calmness and serenity even in the face of direst of circumstances and yet this calmness feels like the silence before the storm. His character has literally grown here!

I adored the amused contempt he portrayed for his supposed rivals. Every time it happens that the protagonist gets incensed at the taunts and results in a brawl but here the situation turns a 360 for Chandra refuses to acknowledge the very existence of Malayaketu. This is somehow more colder and fiercer where the attitude of Chandra is well portrayed. I loved it!

Nandini's love jaap! I am going to get tired of it soon.

Niki

PS: Chandra is definitely going to win the competition and the hand of the Princess too. Question is will he marry her right now with the intention of getting closer to the throne or will he refuse????

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Posted: 8 years ago
#36
Thank you, my dear Manasi. I suppose this extra encomium is for my not having run away like Adwitiya and Sandhya!😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: cute.manasi

Great analysis , aunty...👏👏👏

& thanx for pm...😳

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Posted: 8 years ago
#37
Another truly mind boggling bit in yesterday's episode, hitting your target with love or hriday. Not exactly sure how it works out. You can hit it with your hands, eyes, brain, or for that matter even legs if you really practice it. How does this organ even get into the picture. It would have been better if it had been worded like this, "I love you a lot Dad! My love for you gives me the motivation and inspiration to hit any number of targets. My love for you gives me the courage to fight any number of battles and win them for your sake!"
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Posted: 8 years ago
#38
Shyamala Chetan as Malayaketu is actually well cast - Malayaketu was supposed to be a glutton and always wanted to be treated with obeisance as shown here and he joins CGM to attack and win Magadh in the hope of becoming the Emperor but when after the victory during the celebrations a vishkanya sent for CGM is desired by him Chanakya makes sure she is sent to him and thus Chanakya gets rid of Malayaketu to clear CGM's path - this is one version - and the description of Malayaketu fits Chetan to a T 😛
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: shailusri1983


Now what I saw in the video was a realistic feat. It is something which can be done with skill, efficiency, practice and hard work. For the life of me I fail to understand how one can run on floating leaves. If it was floating stones or planks in the episode, it would have seemed somewhat credible. The movie I cited in my previous post has Surya enacting the role of the founder of Shaolin
Soccer temples, Bodhidharma.


I agree. The video was more logical. I checked google and here is what it says of Bodhidharma...just some excerpts...
"The Dharma Master was a South Indian of the Western Region. He was the third son of a great Indian king. His ambition lay in the Mahayana path, and so he put aside his white layman's robe for the black robe of a monk. Lamenting the decline of the true teaching in the outlands, he subsequently crossed distant mountains and seas, traveling about propagating the teaching in Han and Wei."

"Bodhidharma may be a real person or he may be creation of the origin legends of both Zen Buddhism and Shaolin Kung Fu.

We can be sure that Mahayana Buddhism came from North India to China around the year 500. The actual date could be anywhere from about 420 to 580."

"Throughout Buddhist art, Bodhidharma is depicted as an ill-tempered, profusely-bearded, wide-eyed non-Chinese person. He is referred as "The Blue-Eyed Barbarian" (Chinese: ; pinyin: Bynh) in Chan texts. The Anthology of the Patriarchal Hall (952) identifies Bodhidharma as the 28th Patriarch of Buddhism in an uninterrupted line that extends all the way back to the Gautama Buddha himself."

Well, Chandragupta Maurya's timeline is around 340 to 305? B.C. atleast 800 yrs before Bodhidharma's time. Considering the fact that Buddhism and Jainism were prevalent religions besides Hinduism in those times...the source of his teachings may be Indian, one can claim. Also, I read that CG turned to Jainism later in life.

So am I to assume that the shoddy ninja VFX are supposed to allude to such kinds of ancient practices and knowledge. I guess I am thinking too much. 😆


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Posted: 8 years ago
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You wicked girl, you would be a nightmare for the CVs if they ever made the mistake of reading your strictures on their output!😆

Well, everything that you have written here is logical and holds together. But you are not factoring in the TRPs angle. If they had spent 2 or 3 weeks with the young Chandra - who is not star material like Siddharth in Chakravartin Ashoka Samrat, or Faisal Khan in Maharana Pratap - the ratings would have never taken off. And these days, shows are being axed in as little as 3 months. They would not dare to do that to Ekta, but she wants this to be a big success, and she has pinned her hopes on Rajat. So he had to come in early.

But they could have easily done a much better job with the Takshashila Vidyalaya. If you can get at it, look at the 1990 Chanakya and compare the two set ups.Nor could I understand not just Chanakya but Rakshas as well combining the role of the guru and the fencing master!

This said, your rethink on the wild boar scene is very funny. You know, Chanakya might know how to use the Santaram vidya to walk on water, but he might not know how to climb a tree!😉

I do not think Chandra needed to be convinced re: Nand or indeed about anything else. He sees himself as having been bought by Chanakya, and thus as belonging to his guru, body and soul. So the question of his having an independent opinion or will does not arise. That is the rationale for his total samarpan right at the beginning. Chanakya too makes it clear to Chandra that he expects total obedience from his shishya. Later this kind of obligatory obedience gets a solid overlay of tremendous respect and loyalty towards Chanakya, which cements the earlier samarpan on to an unbreakable foundation. You can see it in tonight's episode, in the sequence in the rain, when Chanakya sends Chandra off to Magadh to spy out the lie of the land.

Your last para had me in stitches - it almost hurt!😆 - and the Nand ki Putri and Bakri entry bit was almost as funny. As I have noted somewhere here or on my last thread, Shweta needs to do something more than playing pita maharaj ki ladli or a giggly Asha Parekh clone for us to be able to judge her acting. But I think she will do well.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: shailusri1983

Aunty I for one was not in any great hurry to see Rajat in this episode itself. One or two more weeks with younger Chandra in Taxilla under Chanakya's wings would have made a fantastic story. Chandra adjusting into the new set up, Chanakya helping out, being outcaste and discriminated in the beginning for his humble origins, gradually winning over some life- long friends and well-wishers among his school cronies and other teachers, making a few enemies and rivals as well, etc I felt that the whole Taxilla university set up was very ill-conceived.

I did not see any other teachers in that prestigious ancient university apart from Chanakya. A group of students in a rundown hut-like structure with one single professor parading back and forth does not make a university. Chanakya was only a professor there. There should have been a principal and other professors training and teaching the students. Political theory and war strategy (theory) were Chanakya's forte.

In this episode, I saw Chanakya himself teaching sword fighting to Chandra which makes no sense to me because if he had been the one training him as was shown in the episode, there was no way Chandra was going to make that wheel jhala out of bhalas. Yesterday I was vigorously defending Chanakya for his moment of fear and panic before the wild boar using the human stress adaptation mechanism and what not.

Today it all goes down the drain! If the man could walk over or train his students to walk over lotus leaves on water in a single attempt, Chandra being an Eka Santhagrahi (one who learns and masters something in a single attempt) notwithstanding, there was no way he was going to be scared of a simple uncomplicated wild boar in that forest scene. He would have flicked it like that with his little finger.

The Chanakya-Chandra scene overlooking Magadh from the hill top was good as were the lines spoken by both of them. My only problem with the scene was that it looked very crowded and rushed with heavy duty dialogues. Chanakya's brainwashing against love and the other softer emotions and his insistence that he work only towards his goal which is gaining the throne of Magadh was working simply because his student himself was disinclined and disillusioned towards love.

I further did not find Chandra's displeasure with Nand and his rule as justification enough or motivation enough for him to think of dethroning him and becoming the king himself. Chanakya has a grudge not Chandra. Even Chanakya buying him and thus saving his foster mother from the abuse of her brutish husband was not enough grounds for me to secure Chandra's unquestioned loyalties and faith. Why should Chandra subscribe to Chanakya's agenda?

There should have been some scenes showing Chandra's reluctance to fall in line with Chanakya's thoughts. If Chandra had known his equation with Moora or his real identity, then it would be an entirely different scenario. But it is not! Moreover, it hardly adds anything to Chanakya's persuasive skills, effective use of systematic brainwashing, or propaganda when his student was so willing.

I would have preferred to see how Chanakya could work upon even an unwilling and reluctant subject and yet turn him around to produce the appropriate and remarkable results. That does not happen leaving us with the single hill top conversation. The subject of this conversation could have been spread and interspersed over two or three episodes instead of just a five minute conversation between Chanakya and Chandra.

I was hardly impressed by the Nand ki Putri and Bakri entry of SBP. But this was not a scene anybody could excel. So I am reserving my opinion for some time more. The point most effectively made is that she is a polar opposite of Chandra.

As regards Rajat's entry, I was reminded of the Bodhidarma fight scene of Surya in the movie Seventh Sense. For a moment I even thought that I was seeing Surya instead of Rajat. I even went back and watched the original scene on YouTube and realized to my very great relief that it was not an exact copy but just an inspirational lift off. I guess Rajat's style of dressing resembled a lot with this character, the only difference being that Rajat sports open and loose hair here and there Surya has his hair securely tied. Moreover in the movie it was a stick fight and there was no bhalon ka jhala at the end.

Malayaketu and his cronies acted as eye irritants. Malay must have bunked and failed in every class for three to five years at least to still remain at Taxilla University despite his age bar as Chandra's co-scholar.

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