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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thank you so much, my dear Abinaya, but you know, you are priceless yourself at times. Just look at the part in bold. I was almost in tears of laughter over it!

Why would the Magadhan soldiers be brahmins, my dear? They would not even be Kshatriyas, only the commanders might be that. The common soldiers would be from the lower castes.

So you too are a Lord of the Rings fan are you? Yes, he looked exactly like Gollum. Extraordinary! It was revealed last night that he was Shaktar, a classmate of Chanakya's at Takshashila and that he was now the Finance Minister of Magadha.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: abiariel

Thanks for the fabulous analysis aunty and after looking at title I was likehow she is able to think like this😳.

As for the episode it was far better than the past two days
Chandra's Mom is a woman of 3 rd BC era who believes in the tales of being pati vrata patni and wanted to hold a place in the list of best pati vrata probably at top ten
How wrong example she is giving to her son so there is no wrong in him having hatred for love
Avantika was a heroine of a classic tragedy who is ignorant of her fate by her deed, she lived in an illusion of living happily ever after with nandh but not realising the true love she got from her hubby, wen the reality stroke her she came out of her illusion that she realized wat she lost , it made her furious not only on nandh but also on herself, she is recognisable as a hubris overweening self confidence and pride
Ashok vatika rebooted was awesome, can imagine her as sits, as someone said here she is actually trijata😆
But mura was unbearable in screen l am glad at least she wanted to avenge her Hubby's death than being a mahan forgiving nandh by hugging him and telling see I pity u😉
Chandra is Short tempered and self righteous boy, his conversation with rakshas was good but his troops doesn't look like of brahmins but of some aliens and my precious was so apt😆

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Posted: 8 years ago
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There will be a separate Durdhara, Sri, who will be the mother of Bindusara, and who dies when he is born. I had seen a photo of that actress.

She would naturally not be a daughter of Nand in this show, though historically, at least one of the theories was that she was Nand's daughter. There was another that she was not, ancient history being full of alternatives!

Now the point of interest for me would be to see where and how they fit in Helen, who cannot be wished away just to suit this amar prem kahani. She is a solidly established historical fact.

Shyamala Akka

Originally posted by: jayaks02

I am liking the discussions more than the serial at this point - That is the power of Akka's threads.


Munni /Shreya was mentioning that Nandini is not going to Durdhara who will be Bindusaara's MOM> But as there has not been any other kid of Nand other than a daughter Nandini, what are the chances for this theory ? Any twist can come in EKTA Serial . I always thought the show will go long to establish the love story stongly and once Bindusaara is born, Nandini may go off.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: jayaks02

I am liking the discussions more than the serial at this point - That is the power of Akka's threads.


Munni /Shreya was mentioning that Nandini is not going to Durdhara who will be Bindusaara's MOM> But as there has not been any other kid of Nand other than a daughter Nandini, what are the chances for this theory ? Any twist can come in EKTA Serial . I always thought the show will go long to establish the love story stongly and once Bindusaara is born, Nandini may go off.


Same here... and when Sandy joins in, she spices it all up... (now Trips too!)

Be it the literature or books or the Baahubali scene lift offs or RT's sword moves

It's all FAR more entertaining than the current storyline...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

My pet, don't get all prickly in Rowling's defence. 😉She does not need it, not with the phenomenal reputation she has acquired, not to speak of the kind of money she has made out of her opus!

Pedestrian means commonplace, workaday stuff, not in any way a standout. It does not mean defective, which is probably what Chetan Bhagat's language is like, though I have never read anything of his. Yes, Rowling can be eloquent at times, and her Severus Snape belongs in the literary pantheon of great characters, but there is in her prose no lyricism, no grand sweep of words, nothing that makes your heart soar when you read it. Think Wordsworth, Shelley, Keats, or Yeats - you love poetry so much - and you will understand what I want to say.

OMG... and I remember, periyamma once said I'm anything but pedestrian

Nor is there the ultimate tragedy of the human condition, for her hero wins out and has a happy life. thereafter. Frodo Baggins returns from his crusade as damaged goods, the Middle Earth he left in order to save it has been wrecked, and the malevolent power of the Ring has corroded him internally. So he sails off with the Elves to the Isles of the Blest. It is more like the Mahabharata.

Harry Potter has been described as a combination of The Lord of the Rings and Enid Blyton's school stories, and I think that is a fair description. Which takes away nothing from its singular status as a phenomenon that has revolutionised kids' reading habits in today's electronic world.

Then again, you have to remember that my literary tastes in English were shaped over 30 years earlier than yours, if not 40 - I started serious reading at 12 - on Walter Scott, Charles Dickens, William Thackeray, and the like. So the difference in our tastes is perhaps inevitable. But yes, The Black Arrow , which I, curiously enough, read only last year, is not one of my favourites! Nor is Stevenson in general. He is a boys' author, methinks! Morever, I was not referring to Robin Hood as the book, but to the iconic character.

>>> For all the above 👏

You know, I never remembered Dickens as being difficult. It is old fashioned language, maybe that is why you felt it to be so. I do not remember using a dictionary at all. Perhaps my mother had already taught me all those words. The standard for English was much higher in our days.

>>>😭

I love the whole Harry Potter series, and I actually wept over Severus Snape in Book 7. And I not only have the full set, but also Harry Potter and the Cursed Child. I also have a lot of stuff from the Harry Potter Lexicon.

😲


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam



This whole sequence reminds me of a old, and Classic Tamil movie of Sivaji Ganesan 'Saraswati Sabadam' and the very famous song in it 'Kalviya? Selvama? Veerama?' which can be simply translated as 'Knowledge? Wealth? Strength? Which one is most important?' I am waiting to see how Chanakya comes to this paradigmatic shift that both bal and buddhi are needed and go hand in hand.


True. Which is why I wrote:

However, I am sure they both (Chanakya and Rakshas) know that it is necessary for the buddhi to manipulate the brute bal if success is to be guaranteed.

But I am sure Chanakya already knows this, and if he did not, his encounter with Nand would have driven the point home to him. Methinks he feels that buddhi cannot be acquired, but bal can be acquired, or co-opted and then manipulated. Which is what he then proceeds to do, and not just with Chandragupta, but even with far less promising subjects like the traitor King Ambhi of Takshashila, whom he manages to turn against the Macedonians.

The movie you have mentioned sounds fascinating. I do not suppose it would be available anywhere nowadays.

It is available on YouTube Aunty. It is about the clash between the Godesses on who is superior initiated by Narada. But be warned. It is full of hamming from almost every actor and actress and layers and layers of makeup. But the songs are very good as is the general premise. And the picture quality is good.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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My dear Khalessi,

No, you are not late, for the next post will not be up till tomorrow, hopefully, and even then, comments are never too late. And of course your studies must always come first!

Magenta
will do very well, thank you!

I find myself in agreement with so much of what you have commented here - especially as regards the sketching of young Chandragupta's character and what his coming under Chanakya's tutelage will add to that - that I have really nothing substantial to add.

See you again soon.

Shyamala Aunty (for you are, as I have now discovered, far too young to call me by my name alone, given that I don't think you are in adult education classes!😆)

Originally posted by: khalessi75

Hello Shyamala.

Sorry for being late, university is first. There's nothing much to say in this episode, but still, I will express it in magenta.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thank you so much, my dear Shreya! I am delighted that you spotted and enjoyed the jokes, especially the one about Alexander's war cry. For some reason, that shot made me go off into a gale of laughter. It was so unintentionally funny! If the shot had not been taken from below, that comical effect would not have been produced.

Yes, after Chandragupta has been crowned, Chanakya gets him to accept Rakshas as him Mahaamatya and goes off into seclusion to compile his Arthashastra. At least that is what I have read. But Amatya Rakshas' hair do here is exactly like that of a Red Indian chief, is it not? '

😆 Yes. It is. By the way did you notice that one of Nand's stooges had horns? I think they are yet to figure out which era Chankya lived in 😛

Chandraprakash Dwivedi's Chanakya was most ungoodlooking, actually harsh faced, and he was autocratic, demanding and unyielding for the most part. He treats Chandragupta like a shishya,and expects and gets complete obedience from him. But he can be diplomatic and devious, can stoop to conquer when need be, as when he wins over the treacherous King Ambhi of Takshashila and turns him against the Macedonians. Then again, his Chanakya was the central character, the all in all. Chandragupta was a supporting actor. This can hardly be the case here. I think we will get used to this Chanakya in a couple of weeks.

This is what I have read about Chanakya. Devious and ruthless when it came to state-craft and conquering the enemy. Every version - Jainist, Buddhist or even Mudra Rakshasa are mostly unanimous about this. I think we'll get a white-washed Chanakya on this show, more on the lines of the one shown in CAS.

Your suggestion about weekly posts is a very thoughtful one, my dear. I did that for Mahakumbh, but that was not so dense a tale. Here, I do not think I would be able to compress a whole week's material into one post of about 4 pages. It would become like a precis, and would lose all its flavour, such as it is.

Agreed Aunty.

Moreover, it is not so much the posts themselves, even daily ones. It is the responses to the comments. I simply do not know, as yet, what to do about that. It is early days yet, but such discussions as there have been here so far without my direct responses are sparse, and they tend to go off topic. This forum has still not settled down. Once it does, the DT will start warning us about going too far off topic. Let me see what best to do.

Shyamala Aunty

P.S - I loved reading the Lord of the Rings Aunty. I heard that cartography was Tolkein's hobby. I loved the alternative world that he created along with the detailed maps. Reading LOTR is like allowing your imagination to explore landscapes which you have never dreamt about. I loved reading the book more than watching the movie.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I am literally dropping, Lashykanna, and my fingers have almost shut up shop, but a quick note about the Harry Potter Lexicon, which seemed to produce that doleful look. Sandhya, if you are not familiar with it already, this would interest you a lot.

It is a place for confirmed Potterites, who approach the 7 book series with all the reverence with which a member of the innumerable Holmesian societies, say the Baker Street Irregulars, might approach their Canon, that is to say the original 56 short stories and 4 long stories featuring Sherlock Holmes and written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

In fact, if you read any essay in the HP Lexicon, the pattern followed is very close to the one used the Annotated Sherlock Holmes, that magnificent production by William S. Baring Gould. Every point made in the essay has to be validated from a passage in one of the 7 books, and there are footnote galore. It is really quite a rigorous exercise!

It can be still found at

https://www.hp-lexicon.org/


and seems to be quite active. From 2000-2006, and of course till all the films were released, it was buzzing like a beehive. They used to have very detailed essays on various points in the Potter saga.

As for your writing not being pedestrian, Lashykanna, that is a given! And I am glad that you enjoyed my little comparative dissertation on Rowling vs Tolkien and related matters.

Shyamala Periyamma

Originally posted by: lashy

Edited by sashashyam - 8 years ago

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Trupti Hai you used to do something unique in jodhpurs akbar days. Please refresh my memory. Was it a quick picture summary of the episode? Good to see you back here
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Posted: 8 years ago
Oho, like The Judgement of Paris, is it? That one led directly to the Trojan war.

Thanks, my pet. Let me see how much of it I can take. Good night now!

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

It is available on YouTube Aunty. It is about the clash between the Godesses on who is superior initiated by Narada. But be warned. It is full of hamming from almost every actor and actress and layers and layers of makeup. But the songs are very good as is the general premise. And the picture quality is good.



Originally posted by: sashashyam



This whole sequence reminds me of a old, and Classic Tamil movie of Sivaji Ganesan 'Saraswati Sabadam' and the very famous song in it 'Kalviya? Selvama? Veerama?' which can be simply translated as 'Knowledge? Wealth? Strength? Which one is most important?' I am waiting to see how Chanakya comes to this paradigmatic shift that both bal and buddhi are needed and go hand in hand.


True. Which is why I wrote:

However, I am sure they both (Chanakya and Rakshas) know that it is necessary for the buddhi to manipulate the brute bal if success is to be guaranteed.

But I am sure Chanakya already knows this, and if he did not, his encounter with Nand would have driven the point home to him. Methinks he feels that buddhi cannot be acquired, but bal can be acquired, or co-opted and then manipulated. Which is what he then proceeds to do, and not just with Chandragupta, but even with far less promising subjects like the traitor King Ambhi of Takshashila, whom he manages to turn against the Macedonians.

The movie you have mentioned sounds fascinating. I do not suppose it would be available anywhere nowadays.

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