Chandra Nandini 3: Moonrise - Page 4

Originally posted by: Nonie12345

Wonderful analysis Shymala aunty😊

I watching this show for Rajat only❤️I am not expecting to see real history here since it is a ekta show⭐️

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Folks,

And no, this is not because the naapit, now fully clothed and parading around as Maharaja Padmanand of Magadha - but still somehow reminding one more of the ustari ( which he actually produces in the last scene, again to cut a throat) than of the talwar - had had his footage reduced.

Habits die hard.😆

Magnificent moonrise: However, these are subsidiary issues, of which more a bit later. The chief cheerer-upper (sic) was different. It was the slim, almost skinny, light-eyed boy - not a little boy, for he is 13, at that uncertain age between childhood and adolescence - who showed us, in one tight capsule, all that would be going into the making of the Emperor Chandragupta Maurya.

His eyes are attractive. But his dialogue delivery falls short at many places and sounds more recited.😕

Filmy it might have been, but every scene and every line rang true, in the best traditions of appealing herogiri. And together, they made this moonrise one of the most attractive introductions of a heroic character that I have seen in recent times.

Not having seen Bahubali, I too found it impressive, though filmy.

There is the spontaneous, abundant love he has for his foster mother, for all the risks he takes to get at the honey are for her alone. This love is not showy or verbose, it is simply there in the light in his eyes when he says that he got the honey because she likes it. It is there in the sudden anguish in his face as he rushes to shield her from the blows of her husband with the promise that yes, he will get the honey every day if only she is spared this abuse.

So it is not that this Chandra is either a stranger to, or an enemy of love. He rages against love precisely because he can, and does, love so deeply.

👏

Crippling love: To revert, the sequence between the mother and the son that follows is clearly meant to underline what is to be the leit motif of Chandra Nandini, that Chandragupta sees prem as a debilitating, crippling force that enslaves a person and makes that individual lose his/her very sense of identity.

It made us understand exactly why and to what extent this Chandra hates Prem. (And how did the adopted mother name him Chandra and not by the feather??😔)

This theme is not a new one, it was there - OK, why not abandon the Second Commandment once and for all, seeing that it is not going to work anyway?😉 - up front and centre in Jodha Akbar as well. It was pushed into the faces of the viewers the way a conjuror makes one pick out the card he wants chosen. But there, the premises used were artificial and hardly convincing, and they were made terminally irritating by the babblings of a vapid and stupid Hamida Bano. Jalal declared, again and again, that mohabbat was for weaklings, as if it was a mathematical proposition that needed no proof. Here, it is done far, far better.

Unfair. The maker of commandments is breaking it.

The core issue - of Chandra's mother putting up with all this physical abuse just because , as she states with the perfect conviction of the classic victim of the beaten woman syndrome, she loves her husband very, very much, that he had not been like this in the old days and was nowadays just a little out of sorts - is an utterly convincing one. As is the anger and disgust that colours the boy's face as he listens to her spout all this.

So when he responds to her Ektaish homilies - about love giving one a goal in life, and the strength to live for another - with the savage reiteration that he would never be reduced to such a state:

Koyi nahin hoga jo mujhe durbal bana sake! ..Koyi nahin hoga jo mujhe itna aasaar bana sake jitna baba ne tumhein banaya hai!.. Aisa koyi nahin hoga jise jeetne ke liye main swayam ko haar jaaon! Is sansaar mein aisa koyi nahin hoga jiske liye Chandra apna astitva kho baithe!

, it is neither natakiya nor superficial. It is utterly and totally logical. That it would, eventually, be reduced to a case of famous last words cannot take away anything from the impact it makes right now.

Since Chandragupta's instinctive distaste for and suspicion of prem is to be a core issue in this love story, at least the rationale for it has been established perfectly, at both the emotional and the mental levels.

Yesss. In JA we had no explanation for 'Dil nahin hain hamare paas'. We had to assume that Jalal didn't want to feel hurt and abandoned by anyone he loves, the way he thought HB abandoned him and shut his dil. Or that Khan Baba drilled it into him. But here we are shown what impressed upon him as a child that caused such disgust to prem.

Nemesis: She is the Greek goddess of divine retribution She creeps up on her victim on silent feet, and strikes when least expected, and sometimes also when expected and dreaded.

Last night, Nemesis ki to chandi lag gayi. And I was cheering her on.

😆

Strike One: First there was the vile Avantika who is, as a character, far worse that the naapit. I was delighted to see her getting her comeuppance, good and proper, from her ex-lover and current lord and master. Especially when he stated, with cool contempt, that it did not behove a woman like her to talk of vishwas aur prem, and rounded it off by casting putative doubt on the paternity of her next child! Oh Lord, it was priceless!👏

Wasn't it? And it was a punishment that would have crushed her self-respect if she did have any. In one stroke, Nand did to her, worse than what death and dementors could. A fitting reward for her.

It was also, from the psychological angle, logical that thwarted and ground into the dust by Nand, Avantika turns for solace to the only outlet available to her, to taunt and insult Mura. That scene was as surprising as it was perfect. I am not an admirer of Mura's hackneyed style of delivery or her entirely predictable expressions, straight out of the old films, exactly like her character, come to think of it. But here, the script took me unawares. I loved seeing her deflate Avantika's pretensions so smoothly and effectively, with a cool confidence and a total absence of fear that were a delight to behold.

The actress playing Mura in intolerable at times. Especially when she speaks and her gait is so flat and clumsy.🤢

OK, let us get back to Nemesis. The pativrata naari segment between Mura and Nand was standard issue, and the only thing I could not understand is why he continues to wait for her consent for their marriage - that too for nine long years - and does not simply carry her off by brute force, which must otherwise have been his standard modus operandi. Methinks that somewhere, deep down, he cares for her in a way that goes beyond the physical, and he wants her to accept him as hers. If not, for all the insults she hurls at him, he would have killed her long ago. Odd, but then the human psyche - and even Nand must be at least partly human! - is a very strange and mysterious entity.

May be he saw in Mura what he never saw in Avantika. Loyalty and strong love. Avantika was his necessity and ladder to kingship. But winning a woman of Mura's steel and sincerity perhaps meant a lot to him. This expectation he has now transferred to Nandini. That is why he wants to be Good in her eyes so that she could love him with sincerity and all her heart. Even the devils have their Achilles Heels. His want of being loved selflessly is perhaps Nand's.

Chanakya cometh: The precap shows that he is already in the wings, all set for his grand entry. The choti is loose, so it seems it is after the famous shapath that he takes after being insulted by Dhananand (or is it going to be Padmanand here? )

Nope. It is tied in the end still.😆 I cannot think of him as Chanakya at all. The Khallatak image is still firm in my memory.😭 His 'Rajkumar Sushim' is still ringing in my ears whenever I hear him speak.🤢

I have often bemoaned Ekta's choice of Chanakya, having hoped against hope that the splendid Manish Wadhwa could reprise his truncated role in the 2012 version.

Wish it had been so!😕

The Picture Puzzle Problem: No, this is not a conundrum for you to solve. It is a response - made here partly to save myself the typing, and partly so that you could all see it and express your views on it - to Lashy's thesis, set out by her in my last thread on Episode 2. The core of it is that this time, unlike in the case of the well researched and well planned Jodha Akbar, where Rajat's Jalal had only been the prize piece in an already set jigsaw picture puzzle, here she was trying to fit a haphazard tale around a central, pre-chosen piece, Rajat as Chandragupta.

Kodi asaindhadhum kaatru vandhadha? Kaatru vandhadhum kodi asaindhadha?

Actually who cares.😆 As long as the breeze is gentle and pleasant. Whether Rajat was the icing of the story or the story was built around Rajat, it hardly matters. Even in JA, there were just a dozen episodes worthy of watching after the first 100. This too is bound to be good initially, at least till year end. We cannot expect more from Ekta in any serial. 😆 Though the first 2 were pathetic, the next two improved and I AM watching it with all its pluses and minuses. Bas.😊

Originally posted by: Sutapasima

Shyamala I started watching this show only after reading your updates .. Thanks for your posts ...

Originally posted by: mistofshadows

Hello Di!

Your analysis is really a morning delight.

I agree with you about Chandra being logical in his distaste for love than Akbar. There it was like a theorem, here at least we can see the character grow into the distaste and this makes a character stronger.

Children are like sponge. Their environment is what frames their personality and Chandra's evident anguish at his mother's plight that too self imposed because of a dependency on brutal love, will lend him a fire, an urge to go beyond the disastrous four letter word.

Nemesis...she is my favourite Greek Goddess for she balances everything. Good Evil, Right Wrong; she maintains the quota of balance and Nand's account of balance has begun.

However I wish EK would stop copying. I have given up on logic but at least plagiarism *sigh*

Niki

Originally posted by: abiariel

After all a watchable episode of CN, and thanks for the excellent analysis as always and I have to accept that ur thoughts are beyond my reach as I am still a learner

In my view as for avantika, she was in need of a sevak more than a hubby who will be in her seva, so she chose a naptik over her husband who loved her a lot and that is why she was agitated wen her so called love went out of her control and chose an other woman over her

Chandra's love for his mother reminded me of the golden days of CAS were ashoka would do anything for his ma dharma aur uski samman, and from Chandra's words it was clear that his abundant love for his was the sole reason for the so called hatred he has in love which he consider as his mother's weakness and reason for her ill treatment.

So nandh was not a danav his love for his daughter was so visible that he always wanted to stay in her good books so until his death he will be a mahan in her eyes so that she can avenge her father's death

Nandh was in a need of a wife with pativrata dharma which he cannot see in avantika but believe in getting by moora with her full love

Even though it was not fully satisfied the tables may turn after rt's entry I hope

Originally posted by: Shinning_Stuti

Hi Aunty!🤗 how r u and all?😳

Was out of station last week, so could not follow the premier and the first episodes of CN regularly and along with this missed the forum discussions and the most awaiting reviews of yours😭😳 yet to read them fully and also going to catch up the episodes in hotstar...after that will come up here again.😃 The little bit of the show that I had followed, it looked quite resplendent and enjoyed Duryadhana's come back as Nand too😆⭐️... Though I have a big confusion regarding the historical authentication of his role(Padmanand/ dhananand😕)... However, looking forward for the lead's entry... Going to watch now then will read your write-ups.😃

Subho Bijaya and happy dasera to you⭐️

Originally posted by: varala

Superb analysis ⭐️👏👏

I am going to watch this for Rajat

Thanks for pm 😊

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Warm good wishes and greetings to you too, my dear, including advance ones for Deepavali !

I shall look out for your comments after you have watched the episodes. Incidentally, I don't think you ever told me your real name. Is it Stuti?

Shyamala Aunty