Simran was realistic perhaps not idealistic

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Posted: 2 years ago
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While watching the romantics, I managed to watch about half of it. Kajol says she could not relate to Simran as a character. She was far too obedient and docile. While it is true. And the reality is Simran probably did not age well. Thirty years later, women like that no longer exist.


But if we think about it. The film was also about first-generation NRIs. I hear stories of what my mom and aunts were like back then. They describe themselves as very similar to Simran. My aunts are like you girls are so lucky we were not even allowed to talk as openly as you guys in front of our father. They did live in fear of their father. They knew from a very young age they would get an arranged marriage. They weren't allowed to be seen with a boy. The fact that Simran's father allowed her to go on a holiday with her friends was perhaps a little unrealistic and maybe too modern for that time.


The second generation of NRI children have come a long way from the Simran type of characters. As I said, no women exist like that today. No girl of today can probably relate to a Simran. But it was not that the film did not acknowledge that the culture towards women was wrong at the time. You know the conversation Simran's mom has with her. About how she grew up. About how her studies were stopped for her brother's sake? They knew the culture at the time was not right. But they were showcasing a reality for the most part.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Dude none of YRF or KJO movies age well at all. The most unrealistic women and heroines ever. The amount of toxicity in name of romance. Heroes with zero boundaries. TBH we do need documentaries on Bollywood, but puhleeeez YRF is not what we needed one on. There should be one on hand painted posters, one on how is the best film institutes in the country don’t produce the mega superstars. That’s the stuff we need docus on. The nexus between politics, underworld and Bollywood.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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the YRF documentary isn't about "need"...

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Lol here we go about underworld. 🤣


Anyways. Yeah Simran won’t age well, but till now even the current youth gen will know that this used to be the case ! If you ask me, it’s Balraj who’s going to be relevant for few more generations though ! It’s not just a NRI portrayal, it’s applicable for any remote village folks moving to big cities. The first generation always plays it their way and the young kids in their family struggles to cope with it. Be it Mexican family moving to USA or Asian family moving to Europe, this ecosystem of Balraj keeping it low profile and strict is going to be the case for all generations at least till next 30 yrs or so !

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Posted: 2 years ago
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I agree that 2nd generation immigrants are usually brought up in a more strict household. I am a 1st gen immigrant and I have observed through my boyfriend and friends who are 2nd gen that I am was brought up in a more liberal manner. I believe the people who immigrated here in 80s and 90s tend to be more from villages - specifically the ones from Punjab, and they want to preserve those values and hence they are more strict with their children. There must have been a fear for them to expose their children to western ideology.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Simrans character was so real of the majority of desi girls from immigrant families. I have witnessed it first hand, this story of the parents particularly the fathers being super strict and wanting to preserve the values they brought with them from their families etc is so relatable. Ironically the families that didn't migrate actually became more progressive.

When I went "back home" to visit my family as a teenager I was shocked how much freedom the girls in particular had and how healthy their interactions with their fathers was.


Desi immigrant kids will always relate to Simran. Her story was the reality of most families. Her being allowed to go to Europe for a month was the progressive part although for many families it also reinforced why the girl shouldn't be allowed to go as they saw the outcome as not a positive one.

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In the YRF-docu, Lilly Singh tells about that.

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Originally posted by: Grumpydwarf24

But if we think about it. The film was also about first-generation NRIs. I hear stories of what my mom and aunts were like back then. They describe themselves as very similar to Simran. My aunts are like you girls are so lucky we were not even allowed to talk as openly as you guys in front of our father. They did live in fear of their father. They knew from a very young age they would get an arranged marriage. They weren't allowed to be seen with a boy. The fact that Simran's father allowed her to go on a holiday with her friends was perhaps a little unrealistic and maybe too modern for that time.


Ditto. I heard the same stories from my NRI mother and aunts. They were all permitted to wear makeup and western clothes, encouraged to drive by themselves and work outside and not be housewives. But boyfriends( desi or otherwise) were a strict no-no as far as their father was concerned. So was drinking and smoking. But it's hard to believe that someone like Simran existed in the mid 90s.

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Originally posted by: capricornrcks


Ditto. I heard the same stories from my NRI mother and aunts. They were all permitted to wear makeup and western clothes, encouraged to drive by themselves and work outside and not be housewives. But boyfriends( desi or otherwise) were a strict no-no as far as their father was concerned. So was drinking and smoking. But it's hard to believe that someone like Simran existed in the mid 90s.


I have a bhabi and mammi who got married mid 90s/early 2000s. My Mammi was the one who told me you girls are lucky we weren't even allowed to talk as openly in front of our fathers. She got married mid 90s. My Bhabi had to go sneak around with my muh bhola bhai even after their alliance got finalized. She got married the early 2000s. I was at her wedding, sleeping in my dad's lap. Ironically both were from England. Don't mean to generalize I hear they are still a little more traditional/strict there compared to say the USA.

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