Koffee with Karan- Aamir and Kareena discussion thread - Page 11

Originally posted by: Daebak

ROFL. What a miserable Koffee Quiz.

Aamir called Kiran and Kareena went 'You said 2 celeb stars'🤣 Na na karte bhi nikal hi gaya Bebo ke muh se kuch😆

Why didnt Kareena call Karishma🤣

Aamir saying to Kareena 'husband is not allowed' After, he called his ex-wife.🤣

Aamir called KJo 'kamina' on national TV.🤣

Originally posted by: Fantus

But they are not asking daddy for anything. Are they?

Saif being in the industry for decades can atleast give right advise or direction to work towards their ultimate goal. But it clearly seems that he is completely misfuiding them into completely different directions.

Kjo compared bonny and Saif for a reason. Bonny is indeed a good father to even arjun because he used to make a lot of movies for arjun using shreedevi's money behind her back. Unehgical but atleast he made sure his son got the right footing in the industry.

True . It’s pretty obvious that Saif is a absent father in Sara and Ibrahim s life and probably meets them once a month over dinner or coffee. Guessing .

Sara and Ibrahim stayed with their mom and she brought them up as a Single mom.

Many of you guessed right , Sara doesn’t seem to share a great relationship with the pataudis and even Bebo. They don’t even follow each other on insta . No wonder KJO also doesn’t like Sara coz he’s being loyal to Bebo.

Enjoyed the episode.Finally something good.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Where did I say medicine or engineering? I actually said history grads gets plenty of jobs.

There you go... 😆 putting words in my mouth and assigning motives just like you're doing with a celeb you've, presumably, never met.

Btw, is the aspiring painter not going to ask mean old daddy for money for rent and groceries? It's one thing to be financially independent AND pursue your passion. A whole different thing to expect other people to finance your passion. The first has dignity. The second is just being a loser.

Did I say you said that? Well if you are ok with suggesting someone do history instead of developing rights kills required to be what they ultimately wanna be then I feel it shows how valuable your inputs are to the concerning party. Like I said Soha didn't go back to work in bank but choose to still struggle in bollywood. Likewise sara would never leave bollywood for a regular paying job. No bollywood kid would choose that sorta career path. End of story.

Also the more I am pressing you against saif, the more aggressive hyperboles you kept using for underage kids prolly 17-18 yr teens who were looking at their daddy in the hopes they they will get proper guidance and help (and i dont mean financial) from their superstar dad if they listened to them and did what he said to achieve their bollywood dreams.

And BTW why do u keep calling them grownass adults and losers at that age when they knew nothing better than to aspire for bollywood which has been the only thing they have seen their parents and even grandparents do their entire lives? Why saif even wants them to do anything other than bollywood related stuff? If not acting, there are many behind the camera jobs they could have done so why not teach then to study and advise then to join any film school?

You have no convincing answer to any of that except to call them losers for even expecting right advise from their own dad. All they prolly wanted perhaps was to use the contacts his father has over the years established in the industry for easier launch but it seems going by your response, they should just quietly and blindly trust dad and let dad makes wrong decisions for them just because you ASSUMED he paid for their education..however nobody can surely say that he did, can they? So far we all know how saif froze their joint bank accounts and left them high n dry when they were little and Amrita had to beg for work to provide for the kids. So anyone giving credit to saif for paying for kids education, they are insulting a single mom who has done it all single handedly. Everyone is only assuming that saif paid for their education when they can't even provide a single article suggesting the generosity saif has shown towards his kids.

Originally posted by: Joannna

True . It’s pretty obvious that Saif is a absent father in Sara and Ibrahim s life and probably meets them once a month over dinner or coffee. Guessing .

Sara and Ibrahim stayed with their mom and she brought them up as a Single mom.

Many of you guessed right , Sara doesn’t seem to share a great relationship with the pataudis and even Bebo. They don’t even follow each other on insta . No wonder KJO also doesn’t like Sara coz he’s being loyal to Bebo.

Sara did try her best to make it seem like everything hunky dory all these years cos she was prolly expecting a little help from dad to establish her in bollywood not in terms of financial but using his contacts in initial stage of her career and now that she has realized he will never be of any help, she has kinda decided to stop pretending to care anymore and it shows from the way she talks about her dad. Initially she used to go gaga over two seperate happy families, kareena , dad and taimur n all. Now she only talks about her mother and brother. And I glad she put an end to that facade, finally.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Well you certainly are blaming Saif for *forcing* grownass adults.

My responses were to your claim, not to Sara because she actually seems to be taking care of herself.

I didn't say saif forced his grownups adult kids which they weren't at the time of choosing uni BTW. I said he misguided them into choosing wrong career path.

Yes, sara is holding on to her own without any help from her superstar daddy and is commendable that she has made a a place for herself in bollywood. Kudos to her and her mother only!! Saif has no part in it! Simple as that.

Originally posted by: Fantus

Did I say you said that? Well if you are ok with suggesting someone do history instead of developing rights kills required to be what they ultimately wanna be then I feel it shows how valuable your inputs are to the concerning party. Like I said Soha didn't go back to work in bank but choose to still struggle in bollywood. Likewise sara would never leave bollywood for a regular paying job. No bollywood kid would choose that sorta career path. End of story.

Also the more I am pressing you against saif, the more aggressive hyperboles you kept using for underage kids prolly 17-18 yr teens who were looking at their daddy in the hopes they they will get proper guidance and help (and i dont mean financial) from their superstar dad if they listened to them and did what he said to achieve their bollywood dreams.

And BTW why do u keep calling them grownass adults and losers at that age when they knew nothing better than to aspire for bollywood which has been the only thing they have seen their parents and even grandparents do their entire lives? Why saif even wants them to do anything other than bollywood related stuff? If not acting, there are many behind the camera jobs they could have done so why not teach then to study and advise then to join any film school?

You have no convincing answer to any of that except to call them losers for even expecting right advise from their own dad. All they prolly wanted perhaps was to use the contacts his father has over the years established in the industry for easier launch but it seems going by your response, they should just quietly and blindly trust dad and let dad makes wrong decisions for them just because you ASSUMED he paid for their education..however nobody can surely say that he did, can they? So far we all know how saif froze their joint bank accounts and left them high n dry when they were little and Amrita had to beg for work to provide for the kids. So anyone giving credit to saif for paying for kids education, they are insulting a single mom who has done it all single handedly. Everyone is only assuming that saif paid for their education when they can't even provide a single article suggesting the generosity saif has shown towards his kids.

Once again, my response was to your post. I didn't call *them* anything. And I said this over and over.

And yes, grownups who want to pursue their passion can ask daddy to fund it. But if daddy refuses, they have 2 options. Either do what daddy asks if they want his help or strike out on their own. Adult children do not have a RIGHT to daddy's money.

And yeah... YOU made the assumption I'd push kids into med or engg😆 when what I said was they need a fallback plan if the primary ambition is acting because success rate in that field is low, and you still gotta eat.

Like I said again and again... don't want to do it? Strike out on your own without expecting someone else to pay your way. That approach has dignity because it means taking responsibilities for your actions and being prepared to take the consequences on your chin.

An adult whining about daddy not funding your passion is simply being a loser. GROWNASS adults do not have a right to parents' money. How is that concept so difficult to understand?

At this point, we are going around in circles. Feel free to keep complaining about painter's daddies not paying for rent and groceries. God bless.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Once again, my response was to your post. I didn't call *them* anything. And I said this over and over.

And yes, grownups who want to pursue their passion can ask daddy to fund it. But if daddy refuses, they have 2 options. Either do what daddy asks if they want his help or strike out on their own. Adult children do not have a RIGHT to daddy's money.

And yeah... YOU made the assumption I'd push kids into med or engg😆 when what I said was they need a fallback plan if the primary ambition is acting because success rate in that field is low, and you still gotta eat.

Like I said again and again... don't want to do it? Strike out on your own without expecting someone else to pay your way. An adult whining about daddy not funding your passion is simply being a loser. GROWNASS adults do not have a right to parents' money. How is that concept so difficult to understand?

First of all stoo calling school going kids as grown ups

And second of all we are not talking about grown ups here who are asking for monetary help from dad to establish their careers.

I don't know which grown up adults you keep harping about. I keep talking about sara and Ibrahim and you keep dragging some random grown ups which doesn't make sense here at all.😆

Aur saif ne waist bhi kaha kuch pay karna hai sara kharcha toh mamma kar ragi Hai. Saif ne Ghanta kuch pay Karna jo bachcho ko freeloader prove Karnes mein lagi ho kabse.

Originally posted by: Fantus

First of all stoo calling school going kids as grown ups

And second of all we are not talking about grown ups here who are asking for monetary help from dad to establish their careers.

I don't know which grown up adults you keep harping about. I keep talking about sara and Ibrahim and you keep dragging some random grown ups which doesn't make sense here at all.😆

Heh? School going kids? Sara and Ibrahim were both adults the moment they turned 18.

And again, I'm not talking precisely about them. It's about your suggestion daddy was doing them wrong by telling them to get a college education.

Not everyone wants a college education. An actor might not. A painter might not.

So the day they turn 18, they have 3 choices. Strike out on their own and be prepared to pay rent and buy their own food and follow their passion. Or they can do what daddy says and follow their passion after. Third option is not doing anything to help yourself and then whining about daddy not helping you. Ie, being a loser.

Sara is 26 acc to Wiki. Ibrahim is 21. She could've started out 8 years ago WITHOUT TAKING SAIF'S HELP. Ibrahim could've started out 3 years ago. They are not school-age children.

For the nth time, they seem to have opted for a cross between#1 and #2. Ie, the sensible approach because Mumbai has many, many, many starving artists, and I'm sure they don't want to do that. You seem to be arguing for #3.😆

Anyway, really out this time. Ciao.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Heh? School going kids? Sara and Ibrahim were both adults the moment they turned 18.

And again, I'm not talking precisely about them. It's about your suggestion daddy was doing them wrong by telling them to get a college education.

Not everyone wants a college education. An actor might not. A painter might not.

So the day they turn 18, they have 3 choices. Strike out on their own and be prepared to pay rent and buy their own food and follow their passion. Or they can do what daddy says and follow their passion after. Third option is not doing anything to help yourself and then whining about daddy not helping you. Ie, being a loser.

Sara is 26 acc to Wiki. Ibrahim is 21. She could've started out 8 years ago WITHOUT TAKING SAIF'S HELP. Ibrahim could've started out 3 years ago. They are not school-age children.

For the nth time, they seem to have opted for a cross between#1 and #2. Ie, the sensible approach because Mumbai has many, many, many starving artists, and I'm sure they don't want to do that. You seem to be arguing for #3.😆

Anyway, really out this time. Ciao.

Huh why do you keep harping about random grown ups and not remain on this specific case?

They were still teenagers looking for guidance from the dad on what they should do after completing schooling if daddy thought it was too early for them to enter bollywood. Daddy instead of advising them to join film related courses, allows them to either study random history or travel the world aimlesslyjust so that he could extend his and his second wife's shelf life in bollywood for a few more years.

It's ridiculous how you are so desperately trying to prove them kids freeloaders and losers when they are not expecting anything but right advice and guidance and perhaps hoping to use his contacts in future whenever they are ready for bollywood.

You have completely disregarded the fact that their mom has had single handedly raised them and saif hasn't had not much contribution in their upbringing apart from a few coffee sittings 😆

Yes you can call them grownups adults at 18 but the fact remains that saif did screw them up for his own selfish motives. Hopefully Ibrahim realizes his father's real intentions and he too will also find his own footing in the industry like sara did without any expectations from his good for nothing toxic dad.😆