Another insider opines on nepotism & entitlement, and it’s a doozy - Page 14

Originally posted by: IAmLuvBolly

Isn’t every famous South Indian actor connected to somebody within the industry? Except for Vijay Devarakonda that is.

yes, if not stars, connection with flimmakers etc

the unconnected ones are vijay devarakonda, vikram , vijay sethupathi, yash, nani, ajith, siva karthikeyan, adivi sesh, tovino thomas, nivin pauly

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

The most common example brought up is SSR. But even a rank outsider like Anurag Kashyap said SSR was highly problematic. The reason people didn't want to work with him had nothing to do with KJo.

Wanna hear my Dukh Bari Kahaani ?😆

I said this here in this thread and people called me a “monster”

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/bollywood/5169576/anurag-kashyaps-interview-very-interesting-points-about-sushant?pn=16

Apparently Karan replaced Katrina w Alia in Dear Zindagi.

But there was a film that came out in 2003 title Saaya under the Bhatt family studio. It was suppose to be John and Katrina but they replaced her w Tara Sharma. ( Katrina said once in video she believes John himself had her replaced) I’ll try to find it

It seems Katrina has a history of being replaced.

If it happens this often to the same actress is still manipulation or it’s these producers doing what they believe is best ? No shade in Katrina’s acting 😆

Originally posted by: IAmLuvBolly

Isn’t every famous South Indian actor connected to somebody within the industry? Except for Vijay Devarakonda that is.

I don't know.....I just wanted to know if there star kids? I know HW has a lot of star kids...We keep bashing the BW star kids.....so I wanted to know ki baaki sab kya audition de kar aate hain...in South and in HW?

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

I don't know.....I just wanted to know if there star kids? I know HW has a lot of star kids...We keep bashing the BW star kids.....so I wanted to know ki baaki sab kya audition de kar aate hain...in South and in HW?

the impression that they bully, sabotage careers of outsiders in bw which doesn't exist so much for the others

Originally posted by: vcs17

the impression that they bully, sabotage careers of outsiders in bw which doesn't exist so much for the others

Key word being impression.....who knows what they do.....

Alia Bhatt is an idiot who will say things like ....I asked for that role...I did this...I did that....and KJo ki toh baat he mat karo.....warna Shraddha who can't act even to save her life and is getting movies after movies...how? Just because she is smart to keep her mouth shut....

The impression is what the stars give us .....no one knows what really goes on....That South movie industry is full of nepotism and star kids.....its just that they manage it better......they do exactly what BW does...

People talk about SSR and Kartik.....these 2 were/are fairly successful...do u think SSR would have reached where he was if BW was doing what they are accused of....no way.....let us not compare them with SRK and Akki....because such success stories are rare.....KJo doesn't represent BW...so people really need to calm down....BW is no different from South or HW when it comes to star kids..and just because its happening everywhere doesn't make it right....but painting BW as the only one doing is also not right...

Directors have always tried making their favorites stars.Ram Gopal Varma repeatedly cast Antara Mali in all his projects. If we go further back in Bollywood history there's Chetan Anand- Priya Rajvanshi. Recently Luv Ranjan - Nusrat, Dinesh Vijan- Kriti. And all these are outsiders. KJo just succeeded where they failed- in hoodwinking the whole nation. Why blame others when we've been sheep? The current irrational hatred against Bollywood insiders and the whole industry is silly. Yes, they need to get things quite a few things right. But replacing the current Bollywood cliques with others won't change anything.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

....

The intimidation stuff is pure conjecture, to use one of KJo's fav words.

...behavior and his elitism and snarkism. But the dude hasn't really done anything unethical.

Karan ne ek affable guy ki masta image banayeliy. Dil se achha, bhale bahar se kaisa bhi.

Pan kabhi kabhi uska mask slip hota hai.

https://twitter.com/Sharanyashettyy/status/1284566885070073856?s=20&t=50Ce_SCj_-CI4aDfltU6Tw

^^ Is video wala Karan kisi bhi Bollywood portal ya news channel pe nahin milenga. Kyunki udhar Karan ka curated image dikhanga khali.

Kangana ke saath sher aaya sher aaya wala story huela hai. Koi usku believe nahin karta. Pan mereko poora shak hai usne Kangana ki kaafi lagayeli hai.

Doosra incident tha jab woh KRK ko paisa khilake sweet aur innocent ban rela tha Kajol ke saamne.

Main bolrela hoon, bhot gul khilayele hain isne, ethics se koson door....

Personally the problem I have with the young nepo brigade off late is, they seem/look so effing dumb, without any knowledge or respect for good cinema or their craft itself . No ideas or passion to innovate in any way. Even if earlier batches were similar, we didn't get to know due to little social media but now the shallowness is glaring. Kuch toh personality ho, kuch toh grace ho, kuch toh stories ho jo audience ko sunne ka mann kare.

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

Key word being impression.....who knows what they do.....

Alia Bhatt is an idiot who will say things like ....I asked for that role...I did this...I did that....and KJo ki toh baat he mat karo.....warna Shraddha who can't act even to save her life and is getting movies after movies...how? Just because she is smart to keep her mouth shut....

The impression is what the stars give us .....no one knows what really goes on....That South movie industry is full of nepotism and star kids.....its just that they manage it better......they do exactly what BW does...

People talk about SSR and Kartik.....these 2 were/are fairly successful...do u think SSR would have reached where he was if BW was doing what they are accused of....no way.....let us not compare them with SRK and Akki....because such success stories are rare.....KJo doesn't represent BW...so people really need to calm down....BW is no different from South or HW when it comes to star kids..and just because its happening everywhere doesn't make it right....but painting BW as the only one doing is also not right...

agree but impression doesn't come out of thin air, what you see shapes it and that has happened with the audience.

for example, let me tell you some things which shape my opinion

ayushman, vicky and rajkumar all got national awards for some of the best male performances in recent years but does the film industry talk about it in any context. in contrast, when keerthy suresh won it (same year as ayushman), the whole film industry felicitated her and the makers in a function, there are literally tons of videos of top filmmakers talking about the film on youtube. not just her but even small movies like colour photo or c/o kancheraplalem were lauded publicly by the stars and the makers and actors in these movies are unknown.

similarly, arjun reddy was hailed and still metntioned as a game changer though nobody from the movie had any connections.

recently, chiranjeevi mentioned that his nephew asked him to watch fidaa in which he had starred but once he watched it he told him i barely noticed anybody else except sai pallavi on screen, can we think of any bw actor doing this at the expense of their proteges.

rana has taken a complete backseat in virata parvam promotions and put sai pallavi forward, he literally owns the biggest production house in telugu.

mahesh babu took adivi sesh (no connections) in his home production and has promoted him and when asked whether he could have done that role he said nobody except sesh could have done it, this is a huge boost to any newcomer. do any stars in hindi have been generous to do so.

kamal hassan has taken siva karthikeyan and sai pallavi in his home production and will promote them.

i can think of tons of such examples. one may say they are just doing it to create an image but doing all this takes a lot of effort and will defintely boost those with no connections. one may also say why should they do that, it matters because it means you care about the profession beyond yourself, just as we mentor and build organizations.

what this gives an impression then is that, yes there is nepotism and they promote their kids/relatives but beyond that they have some intergrity and passion towards cinema which makes them appreciate a good movie, a great performance.

isn't that finally what anybody is there for beyond the money and the fame, to be moved by the sheer art of filmmaking

again I am not saying they don't have selfish moves or don't monopolize but arre 80% do that atleast 20% do something for the greater good of cinema, don't be tone deaf

in hindi I would say aamir is somebody who appreciates good cinema, which is why he is invited by people across languages who appreciate good cinema. there is this gollapudi award which is given to new directors and several good ones have won it, he regularly comes to the award function, interacts and gives some wonderful talks too. it is a low profile event but he has been doing it for ages,

anil kapoor is another person who has deep appreciation of fimmaking, he has talked of movies like woh saath din and easwar, directed by directors from south, how he worked with maniratnam etc in the north-south context.

amitabh was another who had great links with bengal cinema and appreciation, but he is aged

kashmir files (leave aside the politics) was the only hit, only abhishek spoke about it and said that it is actually a well made movie beyond whatever you think of the politics

there are barely 2-3 of these kinds who have some depth or sincerity, the majority dont and dont even seem to realise that cinema is much more than insta reels

kapoors were pioneers in filmaking and theater (shashi), do the present day kapoors have any understanding of their legacy or history

somebody like rana gives the impression he does, he recently started a literary event to attract young writers to cinema as his grandfather was known for making films based on literature and he wants to revive it.

its not about kjo, he has just become the front face of it.